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" Iodine Number" or "Iodine Value" refers to how much iodine an oil is capable of sucking up by addition to the double bonds present in the molecular structure of the oil. Walnut oil, a glycerol tri-ester, contains typically ovre 80% of unsaturated chains.
We measure how much iodine that oil is capable of reacting with, and then use the result as a reflection of the unsaturation (or "double bond") content of the oil.
When an oil or substance is said to have an Iodine Value, or Iodine Number of 184, that does not mean the oil contains any iodine. It only means that 100 grams of the oil under consideration contained enough unsaturation that it is capable of reacting (absorbing) 184 grams of iodine. In fact, if the substance contained iodine it would likely cause an interference. For this reason, Iodine Number (An ASTM standardized method) is only used on substances which are free from iodine, including walnut oil.
We also run bromine numbers for cases where the material does not react readily with iodine. Similarly, just because a bromine number is given for a substance, does not mean that substance contains any bromine.
It goes to show that just because something says Iodine Value in a study, the results are meaningless unless one understands what the terms mean. One might be tempted to conclude that it contains iodine because it has an Iodine Value, but please read with precision. If it had an iodine content, it would say so, and give an amount expressed as a percentage or parts per million.
Otherwise, some would go around thinking they are getting iodine from walnut oil, when it is not present. Placebo effect would predict that about 1/3 of them would report feeling better, and many might attribute it to the iodine alleged to be in walnut, when in fact there is none !!!!!!
These misinterpretations and conclusion-jumping are not uncommon, so go slow about concluding anything.
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I can see where some might misinterpret Iodine Number as wrongfully meaning the substance has iodine in it.
Maybe that's where all those rumors about walnut containing iodine derive. The only ones I've seen author articles alleging iodine in walnut are ones without any degree or background info concerning analytical chemistry knowledge, which could easily cause them to wrongfully conclude the stuff contains iodine.
It's another aspect of that typical human error your species is so prone to. We Vulcans have a different set of challenges to manage, especially the green monster within all of us, but I take refuge often in the fact that it is a quite logical battle.
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>>Iosynchronicity:)
Totally. Way to go Dr. and Ms. Settherecordstraight. Thank you.
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...we can increase our Iodine value, harden/stabilize our body fat...
High iodine values are great for easing the slicing of Bacon by hardening the fat.
Wonder what the average iodine value of humans is today?
Got Lugol’s!
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good point, crosses well with my earlier mental question about whether the dissappearance of Iodine color on the skin of those who paint is merely a reflection of the unsaturated fatty acid content of their skin. quite logical, no ?
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That and evaporation sound like a reasonable assumption.
This also explains the recommendation of 50mg (daily) for NON OBESE patients.
By Vulcan logic that would point to more...much more for obese patients...
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in my estimation and experience, much, much more.
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Would be interesting to figure out what exactly happens to fat once Iodine is introduced, by that I mean outside the Bromine detox...
We know what happens the other way around, by increasing iodine value (via grain diet) we get harder more solid fat, great for bacon.
Maybe time to re-read some of those feedlot articles we posted back in Feb or March...
BTW: Read somewhere Chinese pork is iodine deprived for a few weeks before slaughter.
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I'm having a hard time understanding what you're saying. Is taking Iodine going to harden our fat and cause artheriosclerosis? Can you please give the explanation for dummies on the subject. Thanks.
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Feedlots use “ Iodine value” as an indication of fat quality, the higher the “iodine value” of a hog the harder the fat and easier slicing bacon.
However “iodine value” is not actual iodine content, it is a measuring technique used to see how much iodine is required to break the double bond of the fat. See “V”’s post for details:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1027956#i
In short the feedlots grain feed to make the fat more palatable, I have also heard that the Chinese reduce iodine intake of Hogs before slaughter.
Now back to my question:
Does taking iodine out of the feed increase “Iodine Value” (Chinese) and if so does taking iodine reduce “Iodine Value”?
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So Iodine actually hardens fat as in bacon to make it easier to slice?
I've got a lot of bacon then!!! Now I'm imagining parasite infested pork. Gross! I need a zapper!
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Do you know this company in Houston? Check out third page of letter to FDA from GHC.
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/DOCKETS/dockets/97s0163/97s-0163-let0907-vol27.pdf
*Black Walnut is thought to have the ability to oxygenate the blood,
which is a condition thought to be hostile to parasites. The green husk contains
organic iodine. Iodine is known to have properties which help produce an intestinal
environment hostile to harmful bacteria.*
NOT suggesting that GHC is a reliable source, not a bit. But can we at least acknowledge that a certain iodine content within the black walnut husk is possible. I don't think you've denied that, only suggested insignificant quantity.
Which - in my mind - is the crux of the issue any way one might choose to suck on it. Am I wrong?
I like the KNOWN properties, benefits of both. I see nothing wrong with this.
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My theory is that it is the terpenes, terpineols and the like which are anti-insecticidal. The plant kingdom is replete with examples of this. pinenes, myrcene, etc., some chomped by the gut tract to inert substances. my guess is that walnut contains such terpenes / terpineols that don't get munched by the gut and find their way into the blood where they act on the bugs.
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The claims are problematic, pluralistically. We can discuss.
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Most claims of this sort are. Absolutely agree, in theory, but want your angle. Meet on the corner of First and Main at half past.
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Don't think I can make it that far downtown. How about at 69th and Booty's Crossing, a tad after the hour ?
Here's directions in case you get lost
http://www.johnnymolloy.com/Books/60HikesAustinSanAntonio.htm
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Second Booty's Crossing. Nummer Zwei. Don't be late and come prepared.
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I'll bring my equipment, and a surprise.
A splendid time is guaranteed for all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uedmGvNBcgc
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Re: Iodine Number, Iodine Value WallNutz by cora
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Yeah, let's see if you can surprise me now.
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