As I posted the other day, I been on a de-stoning my liver run with Chanca Piedra and Magnesium Malate. This was working with the intermittent blockage of my bile duct which required Magnetic Pulsing, Frequency runs for acute Cholecystitis, Epsom Salt drink/enema and one occasion of Buscopan.
But about two weeks into this heavy run my liver was backing up with pressure much higher up and after a day or so of frustration I dropped some Anthelmics. This gave immediate relieve and the next day I started heavy frequency bombardment against flukes.
Two days into this bombardment and the result are a few flukes whole and visible. I had to do some searching to identify these and the two I saw where Sheep Liver and Pancreatic.
Here are the links to the pictures I found on the internet(s):
Newport, wow! It really shows just how tenacious these buggers are. It took quite a bit of work to get those things out, so this is discouraging news for me. I suspect there are some intestinal flukes in my gut, and I rarely see evidence of them.
Good for you man. Were you surprised to see them? Shroom
The SCIO had off and on reported the pancreatic fluke and sheep liver fluke so no surprise that they where there. However in combo with the de-stoning these things got aggravated and I was surprised at the relieve I got from the Anthelmics.
There may have been more, maybe even...gulp...the Fasciolopsis buskii but my snorkel wasn't close a couple of days ago to allow further toilet investigation :)
Oh, man. That's what my last frequency showed. F.Buski---and he was bang-on right about the b. hominis. How could such a large creature live in there without secreting eggs or something. Maybe it does, and I am not seeing the connection. I hope this is not the case. I don't want 'em! shroom
Looks like this high hit in the sweep turns out to be a lung fluke not included in most scripts, spitting up a storm since running this higher yesterday:
Ok, you guys are FREAKIN' me out! How would one know if they have liver flukes and what
type of things do I need to take to flush them out? I don't recognize the names of any of the things you mentioned. Are there more readily accessible things I can eat/take?
My approach started with the Beck's Protocol then a zapper then a Frequency Generator. But if you are not suffering from active Lyme disease then most herbs may help.
Only recommendation is to purchase herbs that keep Cloves separate and take your cloves as you can tolerate since a plugged bile duct and Cloves don't mix.
My favorite Artemisia/Wormwood mix is here and I also buy my Black Walnut tincture (one of a few approved by Hulda Clark ) and cloves from them:
I had absolutely no idea I had a fluke infestation. But, after 31 liver flushes, I decided to do a parasite cleanse. I took Humaworm. That was in May of this year. After 20 days of taking 2 capsules twice a day it seemed as if a truck had hit me. I had the headache of all headaches, dizzy, my abdomen was on fire and my joints ached terribly. I couldn't get out of bed. I stayed in bed for 2 days. The only time I got out of bed was to go to the bathroom. And, when I went, I expelled nothing but flukes. Pots full of them. Some were huge, around 3 inches long, grey and flat. Thousands of things came out of me. Along with extreme amounts of tomatoe curled ones. Liver flukes. The die-off was unexpected and very harsh. I kept expelling these things, but not in such gross amounts, for months.
Then, this past September I took another round of Humaworm. Only this time it was extra potent focusing on the flukes. Two weeks into the cleanse, but no bad reaction like the first time, I started expelling the classic tomato curls. Some as long as 2 inches.
Then after a couple of weeks after I had finished the Humaworm round, I started expelling black peanut shaped ones. Intestinal flukes. Then came peanut colored ones. Then came the peanut colored ones with what looked like they had dirt on the bottom half of them. Pancreatic flukes. Throughout the weeks that these were coming out I always had a headache and felt funky.
Today, I took Epsom Salts as a laxative and, I am expelling more flukes. These are small tan globs that are hard, hundreds of them. Along with these, I am getting what looks like crooked sticks, very small, but still visible. And transparent seed-shaped things and tadpole looking things.
I have been trying to get rid of my infestation, that I apparently have had my entire life, for the past 5 months and still no end in sight.
That is incredible. How sick were you before all this? What were some of your main symptoms? It's hard to imagine we can live with such an infestation! Shroom
I grew up being a very sickly child. Fevers and bouts of staying at home from school for weeks on end lying in bed. I had pernicious anemia. My mother had no clue what was wrong with me, no one did. By the time I was 16 my dad said I should see a psychiatrist because all I wanted to do was sit and stare. I had no energy to do anything. In my early 20's I collapsed and was in the hospital for weeks. They killed my thyroid so they could regulate my hormones. They told me I simply had no will to live.
Throughout the rest of my life I just kinda floated along, day by day. I couldn't remember what happened from one year of my life to another. I am about to turn 65 next month.
Then, 4 years ago, I discovered Curezone. It was a God-send. I started bowel cleansing then started liver flushing. I got so much stuff out of my liver and gall bladder it was unbelievable. Check my previous posts going back 4 years and you will see for yourself what I mean. After liver flushing for 31 times, I decided to top of my health regimen with a parasite cleanse. That is when I started with the Humaworm.
That is absolutely incredible! If doctors only knew the facts about parasites, there may be hope for so many people out there, who are presently miserable without a clue.
Shroom
The worst part about it is, I keep telling everyone I can about "inner body cleanses". And what are their reactions, you say? Well, 9 out of 10 laugh and say it is silly. The 10th one is grossed out over the fact that they might have parasites. Impossible, they say. Americans are clean and tidy. There is no way they could have (gasp) worms..........
And these are people who have very serious illnesses, such as cancer and multiple sclerosis. Very frustrating.
My health improved tremendously after the liver flushes. I think it is going to take a good while to get "healthy" after the parasite cleanses. My liver is, no doubt, full of holes, as is my intestines, and possibly my brain as well.
Hi Carole,
I, too, have had a fluke problem I didn't know was the cause of my liver problems until 2 months ago. Medical Dr's would never have diagnosed with the true problem was- I had all kinds of test, had my gall bladder removed..and found out about the liver flushes, which I did before I knew to parasite cleanse. Dr. Sutter actually was who told me that my liver would never heal if I didn't do a parasite cleanse, and he thought I had a fluke problem. I had Dr. Sandra Cabot "The Liver Dr's" antiparasite capsules on hand already- I'd actually bought them for my daughter who came back from Fiji, and went through the one week, medical stuff. The Alt Med Dr. told me that the herbs need to be done for no less than 2 months, and that the one week medical stuff doesn't clean out the parasites at all the stages- eggs etc.
I started on Dr. Cabot's, and saw flukes the next day- starting at the recommended starting dosage of 1 capsules, 3x a day- and then after a week, 2capsules, 3x a day. In the meantime, Dr. Sutter had told me about Barefoot's dewormer, and said that's what he uses- along with other things. I started with it when it arrived. It's going on 8 weeks now, and I knew after one month that there was no way I could stop, I feel them in there, and my insides have sore spots from them chewing on me; at times it feels like someone has reached inside of me with both hands, and with one hand on the far right side, and one hand on the far left side, it feels like someone is sqeezing for all they are worth. My liver has felt like a full water balloon until just recently, FINALLY, it's not feeling so congested as it has been for MONTHS..even with doing liver flushes.
I started on Vaxa, herbal/homeopathic a week and 1/2 ago, along with still taking Dr. Cabot's and occasionally, Barefoot's, and this past week has been astounding for the tape worms and large, 4 inch intestinal flukes. I don't know how to tell the difference to identify the pancreatic fluke. I tested positive, high for chronic/reactive Epstein Barr Virus, and from what Newport found in Hulda Clark 's book, EBV is tied to pancreatic fluke.
I also found the Hulda Clark clean up for tough worms on curezone, and have been doing it the last week.
I know it sounds aggressive to be doing everything- I've built up to it, which I do believe is important. I am still going to invest in a zapper too.
There are all kinds of government studies on cattle, sheep, deer, moose, etc. and pictures of fluke infested animal livers...that's what our liver's look like too. They plug up the bile ducts. Animals die from them, and usually the only way they know what the problem is that killed them, is doing a autopsy and slicing into the liver in thin slices. The ranch in Oregon where I used to live..we never could save the liver of the cows we butchered, they were always full of flukes- slugs were very common there. We even dewormed the cows..but I'm sure only once a year, and not enough to break the cycle, plus the pastures reinfected them.
I had NO idea people get liver flukes, until I started seeing them first hand in the toilet. I will not stop deworming and being aggressive in killing these things off because I know they are destroying my insides. There are different products that contain some different herbs- and the Vaxa contains the homeopathic remedies..but there is no way I will stop until I no longer FEEL them in there. Had I stopped at the dosages a lot of the products say to do- at 30 days- I would never have gotten to the tape worms and the flukes I've seen just this past week- and I know there's more to come.
I know the ozonated oil/L-Cysteine Dr. Clark, tough worm clean up is helping to get them too. THe ozonated oil penetrates the tough skin. I also do the CoQ10 megadose once or twice a week.
The Alt Med Dr. told me that I can expect to be alternating things to get these killed for a good year- and I believe him. One tape worm can live 33 years, and lay a million eggs a day. Each segment has a male and female part that can break off and reproduce. THere is no way I am going to stop hammering at them knowing that I'm killing them. Let more rehatch?- NO WAY!
It gets mentally tiring seeing the darned things day in and day out- but the alternative is--them staying inside of me and continuing to have me for dinner. My insides are a mess- there's no way it can heal in there until they are no longer eating on me- I know I'm full of holes.
I did a Liver Flush a few weeks ago that producted 1 3/4 to almost 2 inch, brown, clay, liver stones . From the information Telman gave for this type of stone- they come from the liver, and form when the bile ducts have been plugged up. That's what the danger of a fluke infested liver/pancreas/bile ducts is- not to mention the ammonia and bacterias they put out.
THis is just one of the many pic's you can find of infected fluke livers in animals, and there are alot more if you do a search for "liver fluke" and click image, and then click on the url's for the image. This link is incorrect too, in that it says "Humans are not affected" which we know is wrong. Click on the image of the pictures to see the picture enlarged.
This is astounding. You have been going through allot with this infestation. I can feel for you.
You have zeroed into the origin of your infestation but I can't, for the life of me, figure out how on earth I got them. I don't eat snails, I don't hang around snails. I don't eat watercress - nothing. The only thing I can think of is the fact that some of them can enter directly by way of your skin. When I was little, we had a camp in the Pennsylvania mountains. We would go swimming in the nearby creek all the time. But, it was a fairly fast moving body of water.
I have read that if you take herbs to kill parasites for too long, you are in danger of getting resistant bugs. So, with that in mind, I am waiting for 3 months before starting another round of them.
Another thing that I am surprised over is the fact that, when I read of someone who has flukes, they also seem to always have tape worms with them. I have never seen any tape worms - yet. When I lay down at night, though, my skin jumps, all over my body. Before, I thought it was just nerves, but now I am not so sure.
I had wondered if you had an idea of where you may have gotten infested with them. If you live in an area that has slugs, and has alot of moisture, flukes are most likely present. I thought it was from me being around the livestock- cows- that we knew had liver flukes..but from what Newport has written also- it can be from eating the meat of infested animals that hasn't been well cooked too.
There is mis-information I have found on the internet concerning flukes- one place said that people aren't affected by the large liver flukes..wrong, I've seen them in the toilet.
I also read where it says somewhere that animals are rejected and not slaughtered that have liver flukes...wrong. The liver is rejected...but if the whole animal were rejected- it would put alot of cattlemen and sheepmen out of business!
There are enough other products that a person can keep hammering away at the worms with that can be rotated so the bugs won't build up a resistance. That's the bad thing of the forums that sell their own products..they aren't going to tell you that. Humaworm, Barefoot's, and Clarkia all contain the 3 main basic herbs- Wormwood, Black Walnut, and Cloves...and then add their own other ingredients. Humaworm also contains cascara sagrada, which is what alot of people are already using for colon cleansing. Barefoot's adds Oregano Oil and Olive Leaf.
The Dr. Hulda Clark cleanup for tough tape worms/ascarids doesn't contain any herbs..it's ozonated oil/L-Cysteine and CoQ10 megadoses.
I would never have seen the tape worms and intestinal worms I've been getting had I stopped, I'm positive of that. There's a recent post concerning the use of Neem, by a person that has just gotten done with the Humaworm, and kept going with Neem..and has now been getting a bunch of worms out because of it.
The mess these things have made of my insides, and the sore spots I've had for so long that I now know were the parasites eating on me, and feeling the "fluttering"..I'm keeping after these suckers. I've gotten around 7 other segmented/tape worm type of intestinal worms out just in the last week, besides the big one...plus the pile of intestinal liver flukes. I was surprised by that, I thought I was getting to the bottom of the liver flukes...obviously not.
I have been surprised in the last week by the ascarids too. Every day is something new in the toilet, and most recently, alot more than just flukes- which I thought was the main problem.
When the Alternative Med Dr. did the Applied Kinesiology/homeopathic testing, he was testing for specific parasites..and I already knew about the flukes, which he told me later he hadn't even gotten to...but one that I tested strongest for was microbials...ones you don't see with the naked eye. So, if I'm seeing all these big ones..what the heck am I NOT seeing? Scary thought. Plus eggs/bacterias/ammonia/toxins the bugs themselves put out.
I'd sure do some follow up stuff because of the infestation you know you have. I'm positive that had I not found out what the true problem has been, that had I waited until the medical Dr's COULD find something..that it would have been too late- my liver and insides have been getting destroyed by these things.
I wonder how many people have "liver failure" that were actually caused by fluke infestations? We'd never hear about it, I'm sure.
I need to add,
Every herbalist has good products, and there are faithful people that are going to defend them no matter what, I've seen it on Barefoot's and I've seen it on Humaworms.
I think it's like alot of people have said here on this forum, it takes some of our own experimenting too. Maybe "normally" infested people get by with 30 days (which is what Barefoot also recommends- but he also recommends maintenance of 1 TB a week after that, which would never have worked for me either.) I'm not "normally" infested, if there is such a thing.
I think there's alot more people with tape worm problems that aren't finding them because they do quit.
I continue to be AMAZED at what I am dumping this week! I think everything in combination is working effectively...the Clark cleanup with the ozonated olive oil/L-Cysteine, and every 3 or 4 days, the 4000 mg of CoQ10 for my weight; the Vaxa parasitic with herbals and homeopathic remedies, along with colon cleansing herbs and probiotics; the homeopathic remedies in addition to that that my Alt. Med Dr. has me on 3 times a day; Dr. Laura Cabot's dewormer capsules 3x a day- and this is interesting- two different nights prior to dumping a load of flukes I didn't know I still even had...I drank the raw vegetable juice Dr. Cabot has in her Raw Juice can save your life book, the recipe specifically for Intestinal Parasites.
2 cabbage leaves
2 spinach leaves
1 clove garlic
1 pomegranate (I bought the 100% juice, the fruit really plugged up the juicer)
ginger root
1/2 tsp horseradish
1 apple
and yes, you know when it hits the bottom of your stomach, I sure can't say I'm drinking it because it's pleasant.
I had drank it the night before I got the large load of intestinal flukes...
and I drank it again last night, and I have dumped the STINKIEST piles of flukes this morning that I've ever dumped! FOUR loads of them, and stink horribly!
I followed up with enemas- one epsom salt, one coffee (try to retain) which is supposed to be for liver toxins, and a couple of clear ones...and got a good cupful more of the stinky darned things!
I woke up in the middle of the night last night, drenched in sweat, the bedding was soaked, I had to get up and change my night gown. That's the first time that's ever happened.
I didn't have severe cramping this morning like I do alot of times when I know I'm going to pass them..these took my totally by surprise..and kept coming and coming. I DON'T know where they've been all this time??? I don't think in the intestines. Could they have been from the pancreas? Where ever they came from, they stunk!
So, keep after them..I am totally amazed at what I keep getting...how in the world could I have any more left with as many as I keep getting out??? It's amazing!
Hi Carole,
I just found something you might be interested in knowing more about too. I was looking at archived curezone posts, looking for what others may have used to not have a resistance to the most commonly used herbs in dewormers.
I found a good post from Humaworm to a lady that was still having problems
He told her to use a different formula, either with chinese, or Indian (from India) ingredients
I found also, a place to get a product from India that contains Auyurvedic formulas, called Banyan Botanicals Paracleanse. It also says to take Neem with it for tougher parasite problems, and they also sell Neem.
I bought some Neem a couple of months ago. I can't remember now why I bought it but I have it here. So, I will give it a try and see what happens.
I am so busy with my job, I don't have allot of time to do anything to much right now. But I will try that one. I hope it works. I want these guys out of my system.
I still have allot of reading and researching to do before I feel comfortable in doing too much. My poor body really isn't strong enough to tolerate resistant bugs, so that thought keeps me a bit wary.
Good luck with your quest. It sounds as if you are on the right track for your body. I hope you get all of those monsters out, and for ever.
Well, I just got done reading the info you posted regarding the Neem. I ordered both the Neem and the Para Cleanse. I was impressed with both and I will try them.
I appreciate the information you gave me, thank you very much.
Hi Newport,
I just came across this post about not taking cloves if you think you have a plugged up bile duct. I have been on the barefoot dewormer for about a month and a half now. It has cloves in it. I have gotten out about a quart of flukes and pieces. I wouldn't sound like I have a plugged up bile duct, would it? The reason I am asking is because I am concerned about the duct to the pancreas and maybe the pancreatic flukes. During my first LF I passed a carrot stick that was 1 and a half inches long and about 1/8 inch in diameter. It looked like translucent glass and broke like glass. I was wondering if THAT was clogging up my bile duct. As I do the LF's I am concerned about plugged up ducts. I see that you use an antihelmintic that does not contain cloves and then add the cloves when you can. I feel like I have a huge infestation of liver flukes. I got out something that looked like a sack with white granules inside it in my 2nd LF. The movement (activity) under my R. Rib cage is still going on post a week after LF#2. I know this is only my second LF, but it seems like I am really infested with the things. I am wondering if there is a possiblility of plugged up duct and if I should maybe go to the dewormer without the cloves you have used and mentioned here.. Thanks
Cloves are complicated; my SCIO tests can show me wanting cloves for two reasons. One as a remedy against parasite eggs and second as a stimulator for bile production…
Cloves in TCM are contraindicated for stone disease, because a plugged bile duct doesn’t need more back pressure but requires clearing the obstruction.
However, obstruction can be stone in gallbladder, collection of smaller stones, Dwarf Tape worm, Human Liver Fluke or scarring, or any combination of the above.
Cloves can also be indicated when your bile is being eaten away by a massive infestation of the Dwarf Tapeworm and/or Human Liver Fluke.
Difficult call but in either, blockage or infestation, more bile isn't the solution…
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