No stones, thickened walls, and sludge. What do I do? I am having a function test on Dec. 11. Can I make a difference between now and then? I have done 3 flushes. Stones on 1 and 2. Third was unproductive. I feel like I am carrying around a tennis ball in my ribs, while having a heart attack. Lord knows if a real heart attack came I would never know!
Biliary sludge which is the precursor to Gallstones obscures the ultrasound image and makes it very difficult to see gallstones. Thickening of the gallbladder may indicate that it is full of thickened bile and ultra-sound-transparent gallstones.
I had an ultra sound that showed I was clear of gallstones although I had some biliary sludge. Two weeks late I passed a gallstone like old hardened chewing gum.
You can't do too much in the time available because it takes a long time to reverse a congested biliary system.
The gallbladder will probably show a marked reduction in the ability of the gallbladder to contract. The only self help options are:
The Liver Flush - maybe for as long as one or two years but with each flush improving the performance of the gallbladder.
Eat biliary friendly; raw salads, radish, beetroot, beets etc.
Try and take some exercise to stretch the abdomen and walk to slosh the stomach rhythmically.
Definitely eat apples and drink apple juice equal to about two apples a day.
Unfortunately its a slow process.
Rehearse in your mind what you are going to say when/if the consultant confront you with the news that you gallbladder function is poor and you need to have the gallbladder removed. Just in case this happens. Don't commit yourself to an operation if you are unsure.
I had the auful feeling of a cold ice brick in my chest that disorted my posture but I am now fine and enjoying life again.
My start here Feb'03 ultrasound said 1" gallstone, stone blocking neck of gallbladder, inflammation, wall thickness 42mm instead of 3 mm. Saw surgeon told me needed surgery, told him I would think about it and would call him back, of course never did.
Started flushing right away.
10 months later stone free floating, inflammation gone, wall back to normal.
Now stone still same size, but no symptoms, do flushes a few times a year so I won't create new stones.
Of course I improved my lifestyle over the years.
Edit: May be I should add after 10 months all my allergies gone, all lifelong aches and pains gone. Went off 6 prescription drugs (incl 3 anti-depressants).
Changed my lifestyle of course, probably around the 3rd month or so. Did not know about colon/parasites/kidney cleansing, did not get around to that till much later.
All the positive results I got were a complete surprise to me, I just came here because I did not want surgery.
I really appreciate your comments. You have given me great info. Could you be more specific as to how you were eating. I not only have this gallbladder thing going but have had over 200 cholesterol for 7 years. After just 3 flushes it is down to 223 total. I have alot of allergies, and at one time I was bedridden from them. i.e. panic attacks, no energy, ect. After 6 months of gluten, dairy, and sugar free diet I felt wonderful. I was just wanting to compare this crazy diet to how you handled you eating. I am so desprate to feel better. I feel like most of the last 10 years have been wasted on just feeling crappy! Thanks !
If a persons diet does not change significantly for 20 years or so. The person has no ill health for the 1st 12 years then develops high cholesterol towards the last 8 years of this period. As part of the livers function is to create, control and regulate the level of cholesterol in the body for repair/building of the vascular system, the connective tissues and the brain.
Q: Would it be reasonable to assume that high cholesterol indicates some level of liver disfunction ?
If this is correct, then why do so many doctors fail to mention this association.
I know that our processed diets have a direct effect eroding the livers ability to function effectively as we age which is why some doctors advise change of diet but others prescribe statins! which can permanently alter the physiology of liver cells.
I have recently passed about 200 stones after 4 flushes sized between 1 and 14mm. The 1st 2 flushes didn't pass any stones but the first flush resulted with me feeling more energetic than I have done for more than 2 years.
I have just started to use lecithin as a supplement which has shown improvement along with milk thistle, multivitamins and my improved diet.
I still need to flush a few more times because I'm still becoming jaundiced and itchy - though this is much improved with the lecithin.
I have read through some of your posts and your posts reflect a good amount of knowledge regarding the liver, gallbladder and associated organs.
Q: I still get fatigue in my legs and arms - some days are good and others I feel like Ive got a bad hangover (without the headache) - is this a symptom of prolonged gallbladder/liver congestion - is there anything else that could help with the fatigue ?
The body’s cholesterol is almost exclusively excreted through bile and the interrelationship between blood cholesterol levels or serum lipids and cholesterol Gallstones has been studied frequently. The ability of the body to efficiently produce and dispose of bile is crucial to maintaining a healthy balance (ratios rather absolute measurement) of fat lipids. The right kind of foods (raw and unrefined) can help dissolve cholesterol excreted in bile and evacuate excess cholesterol as faecal matter. Most of the cholesterol produced by the liver is recycled by being absorbed through the ileum; a part of the intestines between the small and large colon. The cholesterol is absorbed into the portal artery and filtered out by the liver to be reused. Liver flushing helps to establish an efficient cholesterol cycle in the body when combined with other lifestyle changes.
High triglycerides levels (Hypertriglyceridemia) is associated with an increased risk of gallstones. Increased total cholesterol is not associated with an increased risk and is probably associated with a decreased risk of gallstone disease. Not surprisingly, drugs that alter serum lipid levels have important effects on cholesterol secretion in bile, and hence on cholesterol gallstone formation.
HDL is one of the classes of lipoproteins that carry cholesterol in the blood. HDL is considered to be beneficial because it removes excess cholesterol and disposes of it. Hence HDL cholesterol is often termed “good” cholesterol.
LDL is a type of lipoprotein that also carries cholesterol in the blood. LDL is considered to be undesirable because it deposits excess cholesterol in walls of blood vessel and contributes to “hardening of the arteries” and heart disease. Hence LDL cholesterol is often termed “bad” cholesterol.
Triglycerides are the body's storage form for fat. Most triglycerides are found in adipose (fat) tissue. Some triglycerides circulate in the blood to provide fuel for muscles to work. Extra triglycerides are found in the blood after eating a meal—when fat is being sent from the gut to adipose tissue for storage.
The ratios of HDL:LDL:Triglycerides can be an important indicator for health issues; perhaps more important that the absolute figures. It is not necessarily a measurement of liver dysfunction but may speak volumes about our lifestyle and health history. Many factors can upset the balance or processes in the body, including longterm environmental issue, stress, infection, diet, etc.
I am sorry to hear that you have unexplained muscle fatigue and that you awake being unrefreshed from your nights sleep. These are signs that are difficult to interpret being common to a number of conditions. I had a host of conditions that were consistent with fibromyalia or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I started liver flushing because I had biliary pain but it has helped considerable to reduce the number and severity of symptoms associated with my syndrome. I have a few symptoms left and my search for a complete cure continues. Apart from maintenance liver flushing I maintain a good circadian cycle of sleep, I carry out a stretch routine each day, take exercise, maintain a good attitude by being relaxed and phycologically aware, and try to eat wholesomely. This enables me to avoid 'life-stylitis' which is an unnecessary complication.
Thanks for replying - It helps to be able to make some sense of the processes involved.
I don't mean to butt in on someone else's thread - so I apologise for that.
My condition has been bought about by years of neglect, symptomatic of what we are conditioned to view as normal.
My experience with conventional doctors has been poor and has led me to the realisation that there is no care or quest for knowledge and that the profession is orientated towards status and finance and governed by corporate pharmacy.
I have found that fasting helped me when I became seriously ill and has allowed me to progressively improve in stages whilst trying various approaches.
As previously stated - I intend to continue with flushes for the liver and gall bladder, and to fast when i feel I am strong enough. They both bring about improvement little at a time.
This link gives a better picture of my condition
My posts are both pawel110 and #87118 on that thread and my timescales are a bit out!
I am improving - but it seems so slow!
Incidentally - my grandmother used to try to Liver Flush occasionally by imbibing a glass of oil - she maintained that it was to clear her liver.
I don't think that she remembered the whole process but she said that it was what people used to do to move a slow liver when she was a youngster.
Have you read the Liver Cleansing Diet by Dr. Sandra Cabot? I recommend this book highly, especially if you are considering doing fasts and cleansing. It's a way of cleaning out your liver without starving to death. And it is very helpful.
I'm currently trying to avoid surgery, though it's not gallbladder. I'm following this diet, except I'm avoiding all fat for the time being. My problem is the common bile duct and the pancreatic duct are very tight and don't open properly. They've never found gallstones, so I still have my gallbladder. But I have gallbladder like pain, and I've actually had pancreatitis twice so far because the pancreatic duct has been blocked (maybe by a passing gallstone, no one knows).
Anyway, I really recommend this book, and it's a great diet for people who have liver problems. You can get it on her website http://www.liverdoctor.com
. I have no financial gain from this website. :)
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