I want to lose 40-50lbs on a fast, how many days should i do the fast for to lose this much? 30-40 days? i will also be doing exercise. so how long will it take to lose about 40 pounds on a fast?
You could lose that much assuming you have plenty to lose in the first place. You need to be prepared to rest if necessary too though. If there is a lot of detox to do as there often is in weight loss you could actually be bedridden with exhaustion for many days. I often exercise when I'm fasting with great results, however I only exercise when the energy is there and there are many times it's not, even for long stretches of time. Either way though the weight will come off.
The other thing to bear in mind is that you need to allow time after the fast to refeed and allow your body to recover and change back to ingestion mode again. This time especially can be a time of great weight gain if you're not careful so learn as much as you can about breaking a fast properly if you haven't done so already and start planning for it now.
Fasting for weight loss is not a good ideal. When you fast, you slow down your metabolism so as soon as you eat anything you gain the weight back. You may want to reconsider and try a more sensible method for weight loss.
lol what a completely uninformed statement. You're in the wrong place to be posting such ridiculous claims. In fact there is nothing better for weight loss than not eating. Whether the body slows it's metabolism or not (and it doesn't in all cases) the body will still lose weight and more than on any conventional diet. Not only that it is far safer than many conventional diets which are more concerned with restricting intake than making sure that the quality of food given to the body is enough for it to still function well or even properly. Also, once you get past the first few days cravings all but disappear making it a far easier way to shed fat than restricting food which is nearly always a constant battle of wills against the body and mind craving for more intake. And of course the speed of the weight loss on a fast cannot be matched by any conventional weight loss method. Certainly none that would be termed at all safe.
All facts, not to mention that fasting has been successfully used for weight loss by many thousands of people just that we know of through our research. And it is currently working fantastically for me and others who visit here also.
So thanks for your input anonymous person. What you say is utterly wrong though.
whatever…this faster will gain back all of the weight after the fast plus more. If a person wants to permanently lose weight, they will need to exercise more and eat more nutritiously. Starvation diets (water fast) is not the answer to permanent weight prolems. Cheers.
Now you are clearly showing your ignorance. Learn the difference between starving and fasting and what it means to do a complete fast- including the refeeding/recovery period, before you make such outrageously unfounded claims.
The above is way off with their comments but I do agree that anyone interested in fasting souly to lose weight will gravely be disappointed. I think people who want to lose weight need to make permanent lifestyle changes other then saying they are going to fast the weight off. But that goes for any weight lost regimen.
You are assuming that people who fast to lose weight are just going to return to doing the same damage to their body after the fast. This won't happen so easily if you are informed about the full process of fasting and Recovery which I have done. I don't assume people are all ignorant and wearing blinkers, they come here having learned enough about fasting to make it worthwhile them trying and for the most part genuinely want advice to make their planned fast a success. We know here from our research and experience that fasting can be a successful for many things and weight loss is definitely one of them. I'm sure that this person and most everyone else has plenty of people giving them advice AGAINST fasting, this is a place for them to come for the positive encouragement and support they need.
I think Support is the key word here. Telling people fasting won't work for them is not supporting them. If you enjoy telling people they can't do it start a new Water Fasting Negative Feedback Forum. That would be far more appropriate for these negative and unsupportive comments guys. :p
Spicypenis,first off thank you for reiterating 73657 comments were "way off".
As far your conviction("anyone interested in fasting souly to lose weight will gravely be disappointed")do you know something we don't. Seriously please enlighten us because all you explained was those fasting for weightloss will be dissapointed? Dissapointed at what, you really didnt explain or support you opinion. Which makes it hard to understand you.
As we all know there are several credible ways to back up one's theory some of which include known authorities/expert opinion in the specific field, personal experience. If anything, personal experience is plenty on this forum. How then can you find it fitting to dispute/argue one's personal experience at undissapointed success at weightloss through fasting?
You wrote "I think people who want to lose weight need to make permanent lifestyle changes other then saying they are going to fast the weight off. But that goes for any weight lost regimen" Hang on a minute if changing to eat more fresh fruit, vegetables, drink more water, drink less alcohol etc constitute healthy lifestyle changes then fasting to detox to clean one'system that its more efficient that it can now loose more weight, more efficient at digestion then I'm sure that too constitutes the same healthy lifestyle changes as those above. And as you suggest it is lifestyle changes that result in weightloss then fasting is a healthy lifestyle change and when combined with the other lifestyle changes it sure makes for a great weightloss tool. As you know, fasting is even used in conventional medical practice as a weightloss tool. It is a known fact that anyone who fasts will be delighted at the rapid weightloss. Just as it is also a known fact that whether it be fasting, a diet if you go back to your old eating habits then along with it may come back your old body. This is the point you should be stressing. Not that fasting doesnt result in permanent weightloss because it does and there are plenty people that can attest to that fact.
lol yes I have been very obese. Before I started my fasting at the end of August this year I weighed 140 kilos. That photo is much older than that and could be anywhere within 20 kilos of that weight. The last time I weighed myself was early December when I weighed in at 105 kilos. I am fitter than when I started and when the energy is there I have been running for an hour every two days and doing upper body workouts the other days, including ab workouts, pushups and weights, all to exhaustion. My diet between fasts has been mostly raw in the first couple of months and nearly 100% raw in the last month or two at least. If this doesn't qualify me to give 'advice' or suggestions about losing weight to other people wishing to fast then I don't know what does. I dropped a quarter of my obese weight in 3 months and though I haven't weighed myself in the last three weeks or so I'm still getting smaller as evidenced by my now wearing smaller sized clothing again, as well as some I only just fit into comfortably a few weeks ago starting to fit loosely already.
Again you show your ignorance in thinking that a vegan can't get fat. We can overeat the same as anyone can. Do you think all vegans are skinny pale and anemic?
Whatever your weight you don't seem to be qualified to discuss fasting or veganism with any measure of authority. Keep on trying though, it is mildly entertaining.
"Again you show your ignorance in thinking that a vegan can't get fat. We can overeat the same as anyone can. Do you think all vegans are skinny pale and anemic?"
TOTALLY AGREE, ANDREW.
Ignorance is indeed bliss. Let them be, if it makes them feel better :)
There are no rules against you posting your comments, disagreeing with other forum members and so on. However, there are rules against PERSONAL ATTACKS and disrepect towards fellow mankind let alone other forum members in this curezone community. Despite your unethical and unfeeling comments Fonty took it in good stride and even thought you " mildly hilarious". Unfortunatley, hilarious is farthest from what your attacks were; rather they were hostile let alone against the rules of curezone community.Again,we are not against difference of opinion as long as its expressed in a positive manner that is meant to help encourage development: CONSTUCTIVE CRITISISM.
Consequently, I think I speak for most forum members when I say we expect you to take responsibility for your actions and APOLOGIZE to Fonty.
Clicking on your username and reading a history of your messages it is clear you consistently dish out UNCONSTRUCTIVE critisism.73657 IT HAS TO STOP AND IT HAS TO STOP NOW. This IS a community please be considerate of other forum members, such deragotory comments make some of our experience's here unpleasant, uncomfortable and uneasy.
This is obviously someone who has never fasted and has way too much time on his hands.
Fasting has shown to increase metabolism 3-5% after refeeding (Shelton).
It's quite obvious that you can't eat like you did before or you will gain your weight back. You weigh much less than before so you should eat much less. I've dropped 40 lbs . Your stomach shrinks and it is more difficult to overeat. Also, the weight you do put back on will be less toxic, if you are careful about eating.
I've fasted a number of times,,,,in each instance I have gained all my weight back eventually...and more..
I have broken fasts not very healthily, I did break one really well though..
I am VERY active I teach PE, teach aerobics and run marathons.
I am a vegan and an trying to be as RAW as possible.
IN the last 2-3 years I have developed a NASTY binge eating disorder..I think the RAW has something to do with it as well as realtionship problems...
I am currently on day 3 of a water fast. going well, I have gone form 138 to 128 - my average weight for a long time, before I started binging..
the only way you are going to keep the weight off is to CHANGE YOUR DIET FOREVER!!
Yes I think I can and so far it is working. I have no little or no desire for cooked food while I am eating between fasts currently. And even when I do have a desire for something cooked it's more than enough just to add it to a salad in small quantities for the taste. The thought of eating chocolate or drinking soft drinks now for example just doesn't interest me at all. In fact eating anything cooked on it's own without high water content salads to help it through my system is just alien to me right now and I hope that trend continues now indefinitely. I was tested christmas day too, not by the normal dead things of course which I actually managed to avoid completely- both looking at them and the people eating them- but by a little thing called a home made fruit mince pie. My mum makes them perfectly and nothing compares, and usually I take them home with me by the dozen. This year I didn't eat one or take one with me, as much as the taste would have been enjoyable the thought of putting even one through my body just wasn't acceptable at all.
I am certainly not fasting just to lose the weight, I have many reasons, not least is converting to the best way of eating that I know from many years experience and research which is raw vegan. I didn't have the motivation when I was younger because I had youth and vigour and little urgency to keep me committed to such a course, but after many years now of stress caused and stress inducing physical abuse of my body through food the motivation is now both strong and enduring to make this choice for the rest of my life.
I am far from LEAN - I was lean about 2 years ago when I was 125...people are so FAT and puffy that their idea of LEAN has been altered..we live in such a FAT society that our perception of what is skinny has been influenced....there is a great book that explains this and more
THE 801010 DIET by DOUG GRAHAM
he has a web site - check it out...
Please....ANY excess weight around your belly, is too much weight - THAT is where the body stores FAT when all other parts are full
I have always been around 127-8 until the binging began!
"I have been running for an hour every two days and doing upper body workouts the other days, including ab workouts, pushups and weights, all to exhaustion." - Fonty
My point exactly. You have been exercising to lose weight.
"My diet between fasts has been mostly raw in the first couple of months and nearly 100% raw in the last month or two at least."-Fonty
You changed your diet to lose weight.
Although I requested that you refrain from your attacks you continue to do so with such statements as "This is exactly what I said. Duh!" Obviously you have no desire to refrain from your ways, as such I will ask the Webmaster to take the appropiate action. No one should have to bear reading you hurling insults at innocent people.
FYI "This is exactly what I said." no that is not what your post suggeted. Besides the fallacy in your argument(that fasting doesnt result in permanent weightloss)was your assumption that those fasting do not compliment it with lifestyle changes, worse you are even assuming that those fasting do not have good habits to begin with, after all one might need to loose a few pounds through fasting and still return to their good/healthy habits as you can see there are way too mant variables that this subject CANNOT be given the simple treatment you are attempting. Further, everyones body responds differently again more variables; fasting is such a complex subject and it is frustrating to have to bear with such simple minded opinions under the guise of some credible informed opinions. I really dont even understand your reason for your post to begin with because what you claim you were trying to say is a well know fact anyway. It had to take you copying and pasting Fonty's statements to finally get your point across Ccause you sure failed to do so on you own on your first attempt. In consolation whilst you were not so great at reasoning your point across you were great at making ignorant hurtful comments.
I could have gone on about all the fallacies in your argument but I'd rather keep it simple for I wouldnt want to confuse you nor get ou the best of you, you know the one thats quick at hurling those insults perhaps because they dont quite know any better at expressing themselves in a civil manner.
Not quite. I am fasting to lose weight. The fact that I am eating raw between shorter fasts and exercising both while fasting and while eating raw when I have the energy to do so is besides the point. I am following fasting principles. Fasting is a holistic measure which nobody here suggests should be done without consideration for the other needs of our bodies. If we just didn't eat for x amount of days and then continued on as if nothing was different it would be no better and just as dangerous as taking medications for individual symptoms is.
The people here are a lot more intelligent than you are giving them credit for. We know what the principles of fasting are and we pass them on as advice to new fasters. It's not fasting plus eating healthy plus a healthy level of exercise, it's all a set! And if you'll read my first reply to this thread you will see that's exactly what I suggested, in support of the person asking the question. You on the other hand are coming to a water fast support forum and telling people it's 'not a good ideal', and that as soon as they finish their fast they will 'gain the weight back'. So your way of supporting their water fast is not to offer more information on how to make it work in their case but to get them to 'reconsider and try a more sensible method for weight loss'. We are here because we know there is nothing better, it is the closest thing to a panacaea we're ever likely to know.
I just don't understand what you're doing in a water fasting support forum at all. You are not being at all supportive I would suggest your role here is as a heckler and nothing more.
I am supportive. I was just being realistic. Anyways…just water fast and you will lose all the weight you want. You will never have a weight problem again in your entire life. Now are you happy?
"Realistic"? More like a complete dick! Stop attacking others. People are entitled to their own opinions. If you feel intimidated by the fact that you're not in the lime light, create your own website or even religious cult and get some people to follow you. I think everyone here agrees on the fact that you have overstepped your boundaries.
How strange. I have tried exercise, atkins diet, f-plan diet and every diet under the sun to lose weight, they have all failed. Yet since doing a 27 day fast I have lost around 12 Kg including some weight gain after the fast, but the extraordinary thing is that after the weight gain I am still much lower than my starting weight and I CONTINUE TO LOSE WEIGHT EVEN THOUGH I HAVE STUFFED MYSELF THIS CHRISTMAS. See my earlier comments about the rebound effect, and replies by Chrisb1 and Fonty. and see graph (weights recorded every one day when fasting, 2 days when refeeding):
What I find remarkable is that I appear to be losing weight after the fast now that things have settled down, even though it's Christmas and I am eating much more than I usually do. Yet if I had dieted I would be putting on weight, and believe me, I know from many years of experience of unsuccessful dieting.
Do you have any real life examples of people who put on all the weight after a fast to back up what you say? If so, I am wondering how come my experience is so different? My experience is exactly the opposite to what you say in every respect!
People do put the weight back on, that is not in question. I don't know of anyone saying that they put the weight back on who also say that they broke the fast correctly though. All of those who I have seen have said that their eating returned to what it was or went 'out of control'. Fasting doesn't allow you lose weight while you are not doing it or if you don't complete the recovery period following a very healthy if not mostly raw diet. If you eat too much you put the weight on simple as that, fasting isn't magic it doesn't change the rules so we can get away with overeating and junk food abuse when finished.
This is different to most diets, which are not only in many cases harder to follow, but even when followed to the letter just do not work for everyone, or even for the majority of people in many cases. They work well enough for some people, who have varying degrees of success advertising their success to the public and making the diet a business. That's assuming they really lost the weight due to the diet they are advertising in the first place. But if a million consumers want to believe in the 'subway' diet who am I to put a damper on their enthusiasm.
Your experience is working as it should mouseclick because you didn't just not eat for 27 days, you followed through with the fasting principles post fast. That is how a fast is rightly conducted. There is no confusion here for me. :)
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