Hey guys , as of yet i have not received my MMS Product , since its christmas ... and we can face delays ...
2 weeks ago my friend(who has cancer) received his MMS and he started off with 2 drops a day then doubled the next day and so on till he reached 15.
Doctors said he has 3 months to live , but 2 days ago when he had his blood test taken , they surprisingly said to her We cant detect the cancer cells anymore.
Either his cancer has significntly decreased or its completely gone .. i am just dreaming , i can't believe what it has done for him.
He also has alot more energy right now able to live a ordinary life , I cant believe my eyes.
anyways just wanted to let you guys know that , i have yet to receive my MMS though , tata for now !
All i know guys is he had Kidney cancer .. i dunno about what kind of diet he was on .. i did not ask him , though i dont think he was on a diet , i could be wrong though and His name is Joseph , did i spell it right ? lol
From what he told me .. the doctors there were stunned , they did not expect him to live longer then 3 month ... but right now his full of energy and is enjoying his life like every person should , hopefully i will have the same results when mine arrives , i never thought that there was a magic pill you can eat and be all better , but this seems like it is .
Okay ... not trying to be a wet blanket here, but this sounds a bit suspect. Anyone can get on this forum and say anything they want. We need FACTS and HARD DATA to back up the experiment.
There are people on here who truly have cancer and are desperately trying to solve this problem. The increasing number of posts on this board that keep stating emphatically "MMS CURES CANCER!!!" is a bit disturbing, and can give people false hopes.
The fact is we don't know yet of MMS is effective on cancer. There are some anecdotal experiences that say it might - including a friend of Jim Humble. But all I know is that very vague posts like this one do not help the situation.
Here's a suggestion: Actually talk to your friend and get all of the information ... name, diet, actual blood work data from before and after, and his vital stats ... BEFORE POSTING.
Just getting on here and saying "my friend cured cancer in two weeks" is both useless and unbelievable.
Many of these mms posts are little more then spam ,they should keep the hyperbole in the mms forum unless these miracle claims can be referenced and proven legit!
Whilst I agree with you in principle Telluride, can I also say let's not jump all over this person accusing them of lying, when on the face of it, they sound very genuine indeed.
I'd rather have many 'suspect' posts with few facts, than no-one daring to post their story for fear of being labelled a spammer or a liar.
To the original poster: Congratulations to your friend by the way! Let's hope their remission is for real! And please don't be put off finding out a little more info and telling us the details. We're a nice bunch of folks really, and just want more than anything for what you're telling us to be true!
Please accept my sincere apologies. At times, I forget that most people do not see, nor are they aware of these kinds of things...
They are real and more common than you may think... not always occurring in visible locations and more easily concealed by clothing.
Having worked in an oncology based practice for more than a few years, I saw this kind of thing and much worse almost daily and it does not "shock" me, however understand how it may be shocking and disturbing to someone else.
I posted the reference as the individual claims the use of MMS along with the Hallelujah Diet resolved the tumor.
Thanks. I'm glad I don't work in that profession. Actually, I don't think I would like to work in the health profession. It would be too depressing for me.
I have yet to find any reference that this man used MMS to resolve this tumor. He certainly advocates the Hallelujah diet. But I have not found any specific reference to his methodology to resolve the tumor.
If you know where this information is, then please let us all know.
I have not either other than the poster links to the hallelujah diet and MMS through his site and has a forum linked to discuss both.
I read that the fellow used MMS on another forum and then when I went to his page forum, there were some questions about forum messages being lost or removed... not sure what all that is about.
Perhaps the post is nothing, however I sure would like to know exactly what this guy did to see these results.
Sorry if the post is out of place... I feel without the references it is a bit suspect... but then perhaps not. Perhaps in time the fellow will expand and clarify his site.
My bad for posting it without a bit more research.
I wish that posts like this were written firsthand; in that case I think that the story would be invaluable.
But, it is going way overboard to ask for before and after blood stats, etc... A person who claims that they got well using a particular protocol knows if they are indeed well.
These people do not need to prove anything to us; it is up to us to either use a protocol (any protocol) or not.
MMS, along with a very alkaline diet, rid of pesticides, meats, dairy, etc and lots of pure, alkaline water WILL help loads in cancer cases. Will it cure it? Not always ... but it is by far the best shot over anything else. It is more powerful than oxygen therapies on their own (H2O2, ozone therapy), or most other therapies.
If you have cancer, I highly suggest that you try MMS, in conjunction with a diet and lifestyle change.
idsfireguy, I completely disagree with this statement:
"But, it is going way overboard to ask for before and after blood stats, etc... A person who claims that they got well using a particular protocol knows if they are indeed well."
They have come onto the board and claimed that their friend's cancer was CURED using MMS. That is a bold statement, one that many people on here would love to hear, and so it NEEDS to be backed up with something tangible.
We need to remember that this therapy is still unproven for a wide variety of illnesses and conditions. Not every therapy works for everything, and could even be dangerous if used for certain things. Yes, we have evidence that MMS works for malaria because Jim Humble and others and collected huge amounts of scientific data proving it.
Are you actually suggesting that for something like cancer, we do not need similar evidence??? That we should just go on the fact that someone feels better???
I think I understand what it is you are looking for, and why ... and it will be wonderful if we can get some kind of detailed and verifiable scientific information some day about MMS and malaria, cancer, etc...
But these people are just like you and me ... they are just trying to heal themselves, their friends, their families. They can come on this forum and share their successes, their failures, their issues, etc...
"That is a bold statement, one that many people on here would love to hear, and so it NEEDS to be backed up with something tangible."
They are not trying to convince us of anything, or sell us anything, just share what they perceive as their results. They don't have to quote any scientific information, they don't need to share blood counts, stats, etc... if they want to , then great, if not then that's ok too.
They also can be as specific or as vague as they want to be in what they share ... there are no rules, no limits, no requirements...except that we avoid debate or personal attack in the support forum, and try to stay on topic.
It is truly understandable that we all would want more detailed information ... but we have no right to demand it from those who are sharing. They are putting themselves out there by trying alternative therapies, and reporting back as they are able. And attacks or demands on personal stories because of lack of detail will not stand, at least in the MMS forum.
Instead, try asking questions that may draw out more information, while assuming that the poster has a good intent, and is sincere in what they are sharing.
Sites like these are not scientifically oriented. In fact, the entire scientific community scoffs at the use of almost all of these therapies (oxygen, ozone, H2O2, MMS, iodine, etc...) and so you will almost never find any studies or stats that support their internal usage.
We often adopt a pseudo-scientific orientation when approaching topics here on Curezone, but it is really just that, pseudo-science. Real scientific inquiry is so detailed and complex today that it takes a Phd with post-doctoral training to understand and interpret the data on the action of a single enzyme in a single cell.
The real basis for alternative therapy is an admixture of scientific foundation, personal stories (anecdotal information), and intuition or "feeling". And, I would venture to say that probably the most important part of the mix is the personal story part ... so the last thing we want to do is discourage that in ANY way. Take what you believe from what others share, disregard what you do not believe - if it is not true, it will not stand.
"We need to remember that this therapy is still unproven for a wide variety of illnesses and conditions"
MMS (and ozone, H2O2, colloidal silver, high-dose iodine, etc...) are all virtually "unproven", as are almost every alternative therapy that exists. That's why they are "alternative" ... if they were proven, then they would be expensive, controlled, and inaccessible.
But I can say from my own personal knowledge that sodium chlorite/MMS has as long a track record as the other therapies I mentioned for treating various cancers. If you would like to research this, then you can start with Dr. Robert Young's site http://www.phmiracleliving.org
. He has been using sodium chlorite to treat cancers, in combination with mineral supplements, alkaline diet and super-hydration for at least 15 years. (and it has been used for about 40 years before that also.)
"t doesn't matter who walked on water or who produced incense from nothing; miracles only mean something to the witness."
If we are patient and supportive, we will continue to get more information concerning results...and if the results are NOT real, then if we are patient and supportive that will be shared as well.
Why don't we ask this person if his friend would be willing to post and share with use here on this forum, so that we can check his progress first-hand?
Look, I understand that this is not JAMA, and that the evidence is in the eye of the one using alternative therapies.
However, we don't want someone jumping onto this therapy and possibly harming themselves because someone posted "MMS Cures CANCER!!!" on a message board ... especially when no accompanying proof is provided.
The simple truth is we don't know exactly what this therapy might do long-term, or what it might do to individuals. Many of us here have seen powerful effects of this therapy - both positive and negative - which indicates to me that this is something to take seriously ... and with a huge amount of caution.
I mean, how do we know that the poster isn't someone selling MMS over the internet, and is simply interested in spiking sales? I find it suspicious that this person has yet to return to this message board since posting this rather incredible story.
I would love to see this work with cancer. I have several friends currently dealing with cancer, and it would be nice to see some evidence of its effectiveness. However, I am cautious about recommending it to treat their cancers, and especially not based on "evidence" such as this "experience."
We need to try and keep an objective view of all of this.
Yes, I agree with you. We do need to stay objective. But no one has been harmed by taking sodium chlorite (as far as I know); some have claimed that they had reactions, but in every case that I have read about it appears to me to be a detox reaction, and that's why I keep trying to get people to scale down their dosages.
There is a long record of use for sodium chlorite, and many people numbering into the many tens of thousands ... and to my knowledge never a "death" or injury reported yet from its use - you cannot even say that about aspirin.
From a personal perspective, we need to be supportive...these are first and foremost "Support" forums. They really don't need to offer proof, to ask for support.
If they post that they are offering MMS for sale, they their link or info will be edited out or their message hidden ... please alert a mod if you see this happening.
We need to try and be sensitive and supportive ... people are ill and are already hesitant to share such info that is very personal and scary to them.
This is such a complex issue...
Yes, forsammyray, I can see your point in wanting more evidence etc..
yet look at all these "scientifically tested" and "proven" medicines, that the alopathic model keeps spewing out every week, spending billions of dollars, torturing untold numbers of animals, all in the name of "science" and "scientific proof"...
only to come forth (or try to cover up) couple of months or years later to admit,
"oh yes, it does cause the liver/kidney/heart/etc. failure, oh yes, it actually is caustic and dangerous and poisonous to human health"...
we see it on the daily basis...
Is this the kind of evidence you are looking for?
Just because something was "scientifically proven safe or effective" in someone's lab, does not make it so.
So many of these "scientists" are working for or paid by the very same companies, that are trying to sell the final product... is this what you would call "objective"?
I know I am preaching to the choir here (hopefully!), but it does help to keep in mind, that just because some big ("un-named") agency approved the product for human consumption does not make it safe, most of the time on the contrary...
So yes, it would help to have more detailed information and data and stats, but just be careful to not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
We have a special request ... would you be willing to ask your friend if he would post his story himself here on Curezone in the MMS Support Forum? We would appreciate it very much!
A lot of people are very interested in his progress, and have questions to ask him, and we would do it in a supportive manner...
BTW, there may soon be a new supplier for MMS soon - an existing CZ sponsor at that. Is anyone interested?
I am not trying to sell anything, but a company I am closely associated with has been asked to make it and feedback would be helpful. I have also considered doing so myself at some point, if the company declines.