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Testimony Gum Disease: Gingivitis & Periodontitis

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  • Testimony Gum Disease: Gingivitis & Periodontitis   RN by  grzbear  7 year  15,718  Oil Pulling / Teeth Whit / Gum Diseas / 4 / 5 / 6
    My wife, who has been swishing with refined sunflower oil for almost 2 months (?), 5 minutes a day only, just had a visit with the dentist...

    The hygienist sat back in her chair and with arms folded across her chest said "okay, what are you doing?"

    Well the story of oil pulling came out... her Pockets went from 9s, 8s and 7s, to... get this 2 7s (she had 3 9s before) 5s, 4s and 3s. She had faced the prospect of surgery on the 9s and 8s. She had NEVER had anything less than a 6 before this! How cool is that?

    Maybe the need for scaling will go by the wayside, whoo hoo!

    So now I have the privilege of emailing the dental hygienist all the oil pulling sites.

    :-) not so nutty after all, or maybe it is, just depends on the oil you use :-)

    grz

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    • Re: Testimony by  trapper/kcmo  7 year  13,057
      i told the people in my sons ortho office all about this. i have never been more patronized in my life. i might as well have told them that a bigfoot lives in my back yard.

      edit:

      sorry, i forgot while experiencing that fresh memory. congratulations. that is very wonderful news indeed.

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    • Thank you!! by  molly bloom  7 year  12,606
      You know, you do these things, and you plug away, and you have hope. To hear something like that is awesome.

      Thank you so much for your post!

      Gang, we may be wacky...but you just gotta let your freak flag fly. Go out and show your pink gums with nice big wide smiles. A fantastic day on the OP forum for all of us.

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    • incredible!!! by  misskitty  7 year  12,845
      That news really has me jazzed! I have and 8 and a 9 (the nine was a shock and surpirse). The last dentist I went to wanted me to go to a periodontist and said I would probably need surgery. Unfortunately I wont be going back to that dentist, but I'll surely have to go back to my old one.

      I can't believe I'm saying that I'm actually looking forward to visiting the dentist.

      LOL!

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      • Re: incredible!!! by  hanna  7 year  12,480
        I have to go to the dentist on Monday. This makes me almost nervous because I hope it is working for me too. I have a couple of pockets around 5-6 mm.

        It was good to hear that this worked for her.

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      • Re: incredible!!! by  grzbear  7 year  12,475
        My wife thinks I am a little nuts, although she says she now believes I know what I am doing and talking about.

        You can be assured that the oil pulling is the ONLY thing she is doing different besides NOT using commercial tooth pastes in the last two months that has made this difference. Of course I would say, everyone is different and it may take more or less time with someone else.

        But this has me really jazzed too! :-)

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        • Re: Not to sound like a real by  Megabite  7 year  12,473
          dummy :p.......but what are "pockets"?

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          • Hope this helps... by  grzbear  7 year  13,666
            When gingivitis is left untreated, it can advance to periodontitis. At this point, the inner layer of the gum and bone pull away from the teeth (recede) and form pockets. These small spaces between teeth and gums may collect debris and can become infected. The body's immune system fights the bacteria as the plaque spreads and grows below the gumline. Bacterial toxins and the body's enzymes fighting the infection actually start to break down the bone and connective tissue that hold teeth in place. As the disease progresses, the pockets deepen and more gum tissue and bone are destroyed.

            At this point, because there is no longer an anchor for the teeth, they become progressively looser, and the ultimate outcome is tooth loss.

            Periodontal screening

            Today, in many dentists' offices, a periodontal screening is included along with the cleaning and checking for cavities. Find out if your dentist conducts this screening. If he or she doesn't, ask for one. Known as a Periodontal Screening and Recording (PSR), this exam can reveal the early stages of periodontal disease. Using a mirror and a special calibrated probe, the dentist checks for bleeding gums and pockets. If a pocket is found, the dentist measures its depth by placing the tip of the probe inside the pocket down to where the connective tissue attaches to the tooth. Pocket depths greater than 3 millimeters indicate disease; depths greater than 4 millimeters indicate periodontitis. A new automatic probing device may prove to be more sensitive and accurate than the manual probe most dentists use. After the screening, the dentist records where pockets were found, how deep they were, where the gum appeared inflamed or injured, and which teeth were loose. If the condition is severe, the dentist may refer the patient to a periodontist for treatment. Although PSR appears to be more reliable than X-rays in diagnosing gum disease, it is still recommended that you receive a full series of mouth X-rays every two to three years, not only to discover early bone loss but also to find cavities or fractures in the teeth.

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            • Re: Hope this helps... by  Megabite  7 year  12,520
              Wow, I'm glad I don't have any of those (I think?)

              The way to prevent gingivitis is lots of Vitamin C, and regular swishing of peroxide in the mouth. Swish the peroxide several seconds, spit out, hold the excess in mouth for a few minutes then rinse the mouth. (I used to work for a Dentist)

              Great testimony! That's incredible and I bet your wife is very happy!:)

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        • Re: incredible!!! by  Wellboy  7 year  12,411
          This is all very encouraging. I've been told by my dentist that I have to have an extraction and a titanium bolt. Cost: $5000. Rather than give in to that I'm oil-swishing like crazy and doing stuff generally to kill the bacteria. I've demanded to have another X-ray in August to check on the decay. For some reason I have a feeling the problem won't have gotten any worse and may even have gotten better.
          Many dentists are scoundrels; they're just in it for the money. Mine hates it when I mention holistic treatment. But of course he does - it's going to cost him money.

          By the way, I had the very last of my mercury fillings removed this week. Just one more piece of Kevin Trudeau advice I followed. Last week's was having a new water filtration system installed throughout the entire house. Lifesource. For the first time in about thirty years I'm happy drinking from the tap and my skin isn't dry from the chlorine.

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          • Re: Many dentists are scoundrels by  indiecds  7 year  12,478
            When you said, "Many dentists are scoundrels" - You got that right! When our daughter was a teenager we took her to a new dentist in town. After examining our daughter's teeth, he said she had 5 cavities. She went back and got 2 filled but never did anything about the other 3, reason being that we moved away. The next time she went to a different dentist she was told that she didn't have any cavities.

            Our son has never had a filling, never had a cavity. They inherit their teeth from their mother. In the almost 40 years that we have been married, she has never needed a filling! Yet she has fillings in her mouth. I strongly suspect that the reason she has these filling is because she was a foster child cared for by the State and so whatever dentist treated her drilled holes in her perfectly good teeth and the State paid for it.

            Just started oil pulling this week. So far notice nothing worth mentioning but are encouraged by all the postings here on the subject.

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    • Re: Testimony by  malcolmina  7 year  12,549
      That is so great! I have to admit, sometimes even I think I am a little weird to do some of these things, so it's good to know there is a reason behind my madness! :)

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    • Re: Testimony by  Nightengale212  7 year  12,801
      Your wife's excellent dental exam is so encouraging for her and all of us!! I too am only a 5 minute swisher, and within the first week of swishing I did notice increased teeth whitening and by the 2nd week a little less gum redness. I had this thing about not getting all the oil and hence germs out of my mouth after my swishing as I could always feel a residue, so I did a little research and found another component to add to my oil swishing regimen that eliminated my oily residue sensation and has really enhanced my gum healing. I have a dental appt. next month which will be the true test, but after adding the 2nd component my gums are now pink not red, and pretty tight with no further bleeding even with flossing. For those interested in my 2nd dental regimen component go to the web site of holistic dentist Dr.Behm at saveyourteeth.com. I oil swish in the am and do Dr.Behm's Secret in the pm.

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    • Re: Testimony by  grassguitarcarrots  7 year  12,504
      Those Ionized foot bath things are EXPENSIVE!

      I had an idea though. I'm going to try a Colloidal Silver & H202 foot bath. I have one I bought at a garage sale for $2.00.

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    • Re: Testimony by  stridar  7 year  12,291
      Hi grzbear and trapper ! Do you both beleive the type of oil makes a difference? I have been using plain old vegetable oil for a few months now because i was given s few large bottles of it for free and have been getting great results! Have either of you tried different oils with different success rates or is there any studies done or anything that can give me any insight on this! thanks guys!

      ~Stridar~

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