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  • Nice results this AM with OP and oregano oil of 451  R by  prettysoulful  7 year  3,885     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE  Oil Pulling
    • Re: Nice results this AM with OP and oregano oil2 by  tbg  7 year  2,381     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
    • Are there any dangers to overusing oregano oil? n/m26 by  Just D  7 year  2,608     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
      • Re: Are there any dangers to overusing oregano oil? n/m27 by  wombat  7 year  4,384


        Uniquity said it best!

        http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=362&i=16009#i

        I recently thrashed my immune system with an overuse of olive leaf extract, which is antiviral & antibacterial, like oregano oil. I'm not clear on topical vs. internal...Surely with oil swishing we are absorbing...? I'm a little wary right now, although it sounds as though Prettysoulful had great results with it! I think I'm gonna try it...Question...how much is overuse?

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        • Oil of Oregano to be used with caution28 by  Just D  7 year  3,367
          This from a quick search on the web:

          "Oil of Oregano is steam-distilled from the flowering plant Origanum vulgare, a native to the Meditteranean region. A member of the Labiatae-mint family, it is closely related to and sometimes confused with Marjoram (Origanum majorana) and Thyme (Thymus vulgaris). Oregano Oil has a spicy, tangy and hot fragrance and a wide range of therapeutic properties, but also strong toxicity so it must be used with extreme caution. It is a strong skin and mucous membrane irritant, so it must be used in very low concentrations; and a powerful emmenagogue, so it must be avoided during pregnancy. For safety, some educators suggest using Thyme Oil or Marjoram Oil instead, although neither one may be as effective as Oregano Oil for certain treatments....

          "While there are certain people who heavily promote the oral use of Oregano Oil (one man in particular on the radio), we advise extreme caution! We have heard from several people who have unfortunately burned their mouth and throat trying to take Oregano Oil orally. We suggest that you never take ANY Essential Oil orally, unless you are under the supervision of a Doctor or professional Aromatherapist who is present at the time of use. Due to its potential toxic effects if used incorrectly, be especially careful in using Oil of Oregano, and use only the very best quality Organic Oil. "

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          http://www.lotuspress.com/lotusbrands/tiferetonline/oregano.html

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          • Re: Oil of Oregano to be used with caution29 by  prettysoulful  7 year  2,410
            I agree 100%. I am using 2-4 drops of oregano oil that has already been diluted with olive oil, and adding it to 1 tbsp of sunflower oil. It is a product by Now Foods. Needless to say, I do not swallow it.

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          • you cant keep a good herb down32  RN by  trapper/kcmo  7 year  2,961
            although there are many who would try.

            oregano oil itself does not harm the body. it is the reaction to the oil that causes the damage, similar to the action of poison ivy, where it is the body's immune system reaction to the oil that causes the damage.

            with oregano oil, the body does get used to it, in the same fashion as one gets used to cayenne pepper or anything with capsacin in it. i use pure, hand selected leaves only oregano oil from turkey which was part of a special order by an italian doctor. it is the hottest oregano oil i have ever tried and has a unique, rich, herbal odor.

            as hot as this stuff is, i can put three drops on my toothbrush straight and brush my teeth with it(even still it can get a little uncomfortable). i have also taken up to ten drops in a capsule at one time. a friend of mine has filled a "00" vegcap and taken it with no problem.

            these days i use one drop per tablespoon in my oil pulling oil. this is very mild to me. the reason the body gives such severe reaction to it is simple - it is in direct porportion to the amount of accumulated morbid matter in the tissues and the amount of blood circulation. the toxicity, as with garlic, IS a result of released toxins and healing. the substance itself is not toxic.

            great caution is recommended, but not from the point of view depicted in the citation. that is likely to keep people from using yet another great natural healing substance. and really, isnt that their intention!? for as with any herb, it is dose related as to efficacy, meaning if it is not working you need to take more. the last thing the powers that be want you to have in your posession is something that actually works!!!! keeping people from using something effectively is one way of keeping people from using it at all. as with frightening them about the safety of its use, the goal is the same and is quite transparent to me.

            education - the goal of curezone - is the key.

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            • Re: you cant keep a good herb down33 by  nettie  7 year  2,260
              Not scientifically referenced but a basic introduction to Oregano Oil and why you have to be careful. Often it is not due to the idea of Oregano but the actual source; often it is not oregano oil at all.

              http://health.enotes.com/alternative-medicine-encyclopedia/oregano-essential-oil


              'Here's what the following authors say about Oregano and Thyme oils:

              Sheppard-Hanger, Sylla

              The Aromatherapy Practitioner Reference Manual, Vol. 1, Vol. 2.

              Tampa: Atlantic Institute of Aromatherapy. 1997.



              Oregano Essential Oil Origanum vulgare L.

              No formal testing; avoid in pregnancy, on babies, children; likely irritant; avoid on sensitive skin; hepato-toxic in large doses.
              (Note, I have found no scientific statements to confirm hepatotoxicity and point you to http://home.caregroup.org/clinical/altmed/interactions/Herb_Groups/Hepatotoxic.htm)


              Thyme (Red Thymol) Essential Oil

              Thymus vulgaris L.

              Tested at low levels non-toxic (permitted food flavoring); highly irritant; non-sensitizing; not for use on damaged or sensitive skin; inhalations may be preferred over massage and bath; avoid with pregnancy, high blood pressure; hepato-toxic (?) in large amount and prolonged use.



              Tisserand, Robert and Balacs, Tony

              Essential Oil Safety.

              Edinburgh: Churchill Livingstone. 1995.



              Oregano Essential Oil Origanum vulgare L.

              Hazards: moderate skin irritant, strong mucous membrane irritant. Cautions (dermal): Hypersensitive, diseased or damaged skin, children under 2 years of age. Cautions (inhalation, rectal, vaginal): Do not use at more than 1% concentration on mucous membrane. Toxicity data & recommendations: Undiluted oregano oil was severely irritating when applied to mouse skin and moderately irritating when applied to rabbit skin. Tested at 2% it produced no reaction after a patch test on human subjects. Comments: True oregano is Origanum vulgare, the herb used in the kitchen. However, the essential oil most commonly used in Europe is distilled from Thymus capitatus, and most safety data refer to this oil. Oils from many origins, as detailed above, may be offered as "oregano" or "origanum" oils.



              Thyme (Red Thymol) Essential Oil Thymus vulgaris L.

              Hazards: moderate? dermal irritant, strong mucous membrane irritant. Cautions (dermal): Hypersensitive, diseased or damaged skin, children under 2 years of age. Cautions (inhalation, rectal, vaginal): Do not use at more than 1% concentration on mucous membrane. Toxicity data & recommendations: Animal tests make thyme oil appear less toxic than would be expected from its content of thymol and carvacrol. Undiluted thyme oil was severely irritating to both mouse and rabbit skin; tested at 12% it produced no irritation on human subjects.



              Schnaubelt, Kurt

              Advanced Aromatherapy.

              Rochester, Vermont: Healing Arts Press. 1998.



              Oregano Essential Oil

              Origanum vulgare L.

              Contraindications: not to be used on the skin...because its phenols can cause varying degrees of skin irritation, it recommends itself for internal use. Ideally oregano oil is taken in a carrier oil, such as sunflower. The amount of oregano oil should be about 50 milligrams (equivalent to 1-2 drops) per application...In general, use of oregano oil should be limited to treating acute conditions. The French aromamedical literature advises that the long-term use of this oil, or generally oils with a high phenol content, can lead to undesirable changes in the liver metabolism.



              Thyme (Red Thymol) Essential Oil

              Thymus vulgaris L.

              Contraindications: not to be used on the skin...Note: This oil should not be applied externally.



              Watt, Martin

              Plant Aromatics.

              Tampa, Florida: The Atlantic Institute of Aromatherapy. 1995.



              Oregano Essential Oil Origanum vulgare L.

              A 2% solution of Origanum oil caused no irritation or sensitization on humans.



              Thyme (Red Thymol) Essential Oil Thymus vulgaris L.

              An 8% solution of Thyme oil (red unrectified) cased no irritation or sensitization on humans. Both Thyme oil and thymol have been recorded as being a cause of adverse dermal reactions including dermatitis, cheilitis and severe inflammation. Through personal experience and from unrecorded cases I have heard of, Thyme oil can be highly irritant on some people. In my opinion contact with the skin should be strictly limited to local treatments. The greatest care must be taken to avoid getting Thyme oil in the eyes and its use in baths should not be considered except for specific medical conditions under professional guidance. All chemotypes of thyme other than the thymol/carvacrol type should be treated as untested oils and appropriate precautions should be observed.

              Neither one of these oils are considered sensitizers but I do think it is wise to seriously consider what these experts recommend for safe use. Just because something is safely used by one individual or by a company group surveyed, does not mean it will be safe for everyone in every situation. Companies promoting very bold use of essential oils contribute to members of the public assuming they can make up their own regimen of use and end up hurting themselves. I found an interesting but sad story in Salvatore Battaglia's The Complete Guide to Aromatherapy. Included in his precautions about Eucalyptus essential oil he wrote "There is a reported incident where, for about the past five years, a man had been in the habit of swallowing five to ten drops of eucalyptus oil to keep colds at bay and to 'make him feel good'. He began to feel discomfort and pain in the region of the liver. After entering hospital for a checkup, he was informed that he had been diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver and that, unless he stopped drinking, his condition would further deteriorate. This man had never drunk alcohol. The apparent cause of his condition was the ingested eucalyptus which he had assumed would improve his health."'



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            • trapper or anyone else...38 by  Southern Belle  7 year  1,845
              Could you suggest a way to get an 8 year old to take oregano oil? She has strep throat and I know oregano oil would help knock that infection right out of her body, but she would never take the oil on her own.

              Is there a way to sneak it in something she eats?

              Paulette

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              • Re: trapper or anyone else... (edit)39  R by  trapper/kcmo  7 year  2,306
                it can be put in a capsule and swallowed immediately. can she swallow a capsule? drink plenty of water with that, of course.

                i use colloidal silver for infections with my kids - drink, gargle, spray, nose, eye, ears, topical - it just plain works.


                i just wanted to add, i really feel that a strep infection is a sure sign of lack of elimination and a flora imbalance. some probiotics have a strain or two of strep in them. these starins compete with the bad strains and do not allow them to colonize in the body like that.

                i know youve been around, but others may also benefit and i just dont feel right till i have spoken my mind openly and honestly. the truth is such a precious commodity these days.

                here is a sight with a good overview. i didnt read it all but it sounds like the basics and its from a feminine point of view, which is a bonus.

                http://www.womentowomen.com/digestionandgihealth/probiotics.asp

                the other part of the equation is probably all diet. eating wrong foods in bad combinations. if you have not read dr hay's book "health via food", its not too late to do so.

                http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020165.hay.pdf

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                • Awesome Post, Trapper40 by  Southern Belle  7 year  1,957
                  Hi,

                  Great information. I want to be sure to bookmark that post for reference material.

                  No, my grand daughter refuses to swallow anything pill related. She is one who can throw up at will and the mere mention of swallowing a pill would bring it on! (Ha)

                  I already had probiotics on my shopping list for today and I will drop it by later on.....That is, if I can tear myself away from the curezone long enough. Funny how this website is so addicting....after all this time. I never quit learning something on this website and I don't think there will ever be a time I will know enough.

                  My grand daughter's diet is terrible. Owen has tried to help me with her, but it never worked. When I mentioned giving my grand daughter Oil of Oregano to my daughter, she just rolled her eyes. My family thinks I am a little kooky.....but I don't care. I will keep on and on until they listen.....or until Oprah, Dr. Phil, or Katie Couric endorses natural cures and then I can say..."I told you so!"

                  Paulette

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          • Re: Oil of Oregano to be used with caution42 by  Wellboy  7 year  2,213
            I take two drops of 100% oregano oil with my swishing oil in a morning. Don't swallow. But then I take extra probiotics, including kefir, afterwards, to counter-balance it's anti-bacterial stance. No burning yet, but I can imagine things could go that way if I took too much. It's pretty powerful stuff.

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      • Re: Are there any dangers to overusing oregano oil? n/m43 by  Arkie  7 year  9,038
        Not scientifically referenced but a basic introduction to Oregano Oil and why you have to be careful. Often it is not due to the idea of Oregano but the actual source; often it is not oregano oil at all.

        http://health.enotes.com/alternative-medicine-encyclopedia/oregano-essential-oil


        'Here's what the following authors say about Oregano and Thyme oils:

        Sheppard-Hanger, Sylla

        The Aromatherapy Practitioner Reference Manual, Vol. 1, Vol. 2.

        Tampa: Atlantic Institute of Aromatherapy. 1997.



        Oregano Essential Oil Origanum vulgare L.

        No formal testing; avoid in pregnancy, on babies, children; likely irritant; avoid on sensitive skin; hepato-toxic in large doses.
        (Note, I have found no scientific statements to confirm hepatotoxicity and point you to http://home.caregroup.org/clinical/altmed/interactions/Herb_Groups/Hepatotoxic.htm)


        Thyme (Red Thymol) Essential Oil

        Thymus vulgaris L.

        Tested at low levels non-toxic (permitted food flavoring); highly irritant; non-sensitizing; not for use on damaged or sensitive skin; inhalations may be preferred over massage and bath; avoid with pregnancy, high blood pressure; hepato-toxic (?) in large amount and prolonged use.



        Tisserand, Robert and Balacs, Tony

        Essential Oil Safety.

        Edinburgh: Churchill Livingstone. 1995.



        Oregano Essential Oil Origanum vulgare L.

        Hazards: moderate skin irritant, strong mucous membrane irritant. Cautions (dermal): Hypersensitive, diseased or damaged skin, children under 2 years of age. Cautions (inhalation, rectal, vaginal): Do not use at more than 1% concentration on mucous membrane. Toxicity data & recommendations: Undiluted oregano oil was severely irritating when applied to mouse skin and moderately irritating when applied to rabbit skin. Tested at 2% it produced no reaction after a patch test on human subjects. Comments: True oregano is Origanum vulgare, the herb used in the kitchen. However, the essential oil most commonly used in Europe is distilled from Thymus capitatus, and most safety data refer to this oil. Oils from many origins, as detailed above, may be offered as "oregano" or "origanum" oils.



        Thyme (Red Thymol) Essential Oil Thymus vulgaris L.

        Hazards: moderate? dermal irritant, strong mucous membrane irritant. Cautions (dermal): Hypersensitive, diseased or damaged skin, children under 2 years of age. Cautions (inhalation, rectal, vaginal): Do not use at more than 1% concentration on mucous membrane. Toxicity data & recommendations: Animal tests make thyme oil appear less toxic than would be expected from its content of thymol and carvacrol. Undiluted thyme oil was severely irritating to both mouse and rabbit skin; tested at 12% it produced no irritation on human subjects.



        Schnaubelt, Kurt

        Advanced Aromatherapy.

        Rochester, Vermont: Healing Arts Press. 1998.



        Oregano Essential Oil

        Origanum vulgare L.

        Contraindications: not to be used on the skin...because its phenols can cause varying degrees of skin irritation, it recommends itself for internal use. Ideally oregano oil is taken in a carrier oil, such as sunflower. The amount of oregano oil should be about 50 milligrams (equivalent to 1-2 drops) per application...In general, use of oregano oil should be limited to treating acute conditions. The French aromamedical literature advises that the long-term use of this oil, or generally oils with a high phenol content, can lead to undesirable changes in the liver metabolism.



        Thyme (Red Thymol) Essential Oil

        Thymus vulgaris L.

        Contraindications: not to be used on the skin...Note: This oil should not be applied externally.



        Watt, Martin

        Plant Aromatics.

        Tampa, Florida: The Atlantic Institute of Aromatherapy. 1995.



        Oregano Essential Oil Origanum vulgare L.

        A 2% solution of Origanum oil caused no irritation or sensitization on humans.



        Thyme (Red Thymol) Essential Oil Thymus vulgaris L.

        An 8% solution of Thyme oil (red unrectified) cased no irritation or sensitization on humans. Both Thyme oil and thymol have been recorded as being a cause of adverse dermal reactions including dermatitis, cheilitis and severe inflammation. Through personal experience and from unrecorded cases I have heard of, Thyme oil can be highly irritant on some people. In my opinion contact with the skin should be strictly limited to local treatments. The greatest care must be taken to avoid getting Thyme oil in the eyes and its use in baths should not be considered except for specific medical conditions under professional guidance. All chemotypes of thyme other than the thymol/carvacrol type should be treated as untested oils and appropriate precautions should be observed.

        Neither one of these oils are considered sensitizers but I do think it is wise to seriously consider what these experts recommend for safe use. Just because something is safely used by one individual or by a company group surveyed, does not mean it will be safe for everyone in every situation. Companies promoting very bold use of essential oils contribute to members of the public assuming they can make up their own regimen of use and end up hurting themselves. I found an interesting but sad story in Salvatore Battaglia's The Complete Guide to Aromatherapy. Included in his precautions about Eucalyptus essential oil he wrote "There is a reported incident where, for about the past five years, a man had been in the habit of swallowing five to ten drops of eucalyptus oil to keep colds at bay and to 'make him feel good'. He began to feel discomfort and pain in the region of the liver. After entering hospital for a checkup, he was informed that he had been diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver and that, unless he stopped drinking, his condition would further deteriorate. This man had never drunk alcohol. The apparent cause of his condition was the ingested eucalyptus which he had assumed would improve his health."'



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    • Re: Nice results this AM with OP and oregano oil44 by  MISSKITTY  7 year  2,038
      Cool! I'm going to try that over the weekend. How long were your OP sessions?

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