Since started doing UT (sublingually, then today 3 bitter gulps) I have been having thoughts of pregnancy and feelings of rebirth. I am childless by choice, and the feelings have been lovely but strange. It started the first day when I felt I was drinking my own amniotic fluid. Has anyone else experienced this?
Melle
My experience with many alternative therapies is that they often times
initiate spiritual healing as well as physical healing. It is my
perception as well that all healing is spiritual healing.
You as spirit are doing the healing so physical events can initiate spiritual
healing and detrimental physical events can reverse spiritual healing. You
as spirit and your body are highly interactive. We as spirit are here to
learn from both the healing and the detrimental aspects of our journey.
I have had small injections of urine travel through my entire body from the
point of injection. This has been a spiritual emanation from the point of
injection that I clearly feel pass through me which is in no way the urine
itself. I can feel it very strongly. I know that the injections are
a huge healing. I've had an even greater flow of energy through my entire
body from drinking Essiac tea which I've had to limit to bedtime because it has
been so overwhelming. In both of these cases the healing energies abate
after a few uses and I feel that the reason for this is because the earlier
healing energies did their job so that added dosages don't have the same
spiritual effect.
I believe that what you are experiencing are truly spiritual healing energies
which are having a very positive effect on your body.
Well, I haven't noticed any physical benefits yet. People talk about the immediacy with which UT works, and unfortunately, that hasn't been my experience. Perhaps I'm not drinking enough. But adrenal fatigue is a nasty bugger...
The physical effects of spiritual healing, or healing from any modularity,
often take time to manifest.
I've not had experience with fatigue per se, but do know it is often due to
taking on the responsibilities of others, trying to solve other peoples
difficulties. This can manifest as all sorts of issues in our own
realities. From what I know of rebirthing it is a process of getting in
touch with who we are and letting go of the energies of others.
I have healed my adrenal fatigue but bear in mind I have been on UT for almost a year now.
my stress rings went from 4 1/2 to only 1 1/2 now. According to my Natropath my adrenals are strong now. I was on adaptogens (ginsengs) as well for about 6 months which helped with my adrenals and a thyroid herb which is slowing bringing my overall metabolism back up to speed.
I did find the quickest healing to be fasting with urine. I noticed the biggest difference then for my adrenal fatigue. I also consume large amounts of UT when fasting - sometimes over 10 cups.
Interesting healing you are going through. I do believe that when one
turns to face their illnesses - all of them "emotional" and physical,
that it is a rebirthing process.
I have been on UT for about 4 years with many good benefits, right from the
start. Each person is going to have a different experience. Have
never fasted with UT but when I did a 21 day juice fast I think I had more
energy than at anytime before. The problem with my fast was that I didn't
come off of it correctly and went back to old habits. I think that's what
keeps me from going on a UT fast.
I have ingested up to about 6 or 7 cups of urine a day and feel that it gives
me a great clean out and healing when I do that much. But because I'm out
and about a bit during the day I can't do it on a regular basis because it makes
me pee a lot. I also can't drink it after 4 or 5 pm because it keeps me
awake at night if I do.
Livingwaters, that's great that you healed your adrenal fatigue. My cortisol level is quite low, and DHEA used to be sky-high but has fallen to low normal. I honestly don't take on the problems of others so that's not a concern. My adrenals tanked after doing a 10-day juice fast. My acupuncturist said the fast was too long, too much of a shock to the system.
I have a ND who wants me to go on Cortef, but I am hopeful that the cortisol in urine will be enough. I know it will take a long time; I just want to be seeing some physical benefits to make me stop questioning this rather repulsive treatment. Did you start with minute doses, or did you start drinking it straight? Mine's so bitter, and the bitterness stays with me hours after. Blecchhh!
"I associate the bitter taste with NPN/funny protein in my urine.
Similar taste is in poor quality fruits and veg, if one has learned to taste it.
This NPN is a weird player in health. The ask moreless forum has lots for posts
abt it, if one uses the search feature."
How do you know that you have NPN protein in your urine? How does
Moreless explain the following facts:
As medical researchers have discovered: "Urine is the main component of the amniotic fluid that bathes the human
fetus. "Normally the baby 'breathes' this urine-filled amniotic fluid into its
lungs. If the urinary tract is blocked, the fetus does not produce the fluid,
and, without it, the lungs do not develop." (G. Kolata, "Surgery on Fetuses Reveals They Heal Without Scars",
The New York Times, Medical Section, 16 August 1988)
There are millions and millions of fetuses floating in and breathing in
urine, right at this moment in time. You floated in it and inhaled it and
I did too. How does Moreless explain that?
I've practiced UT for about four years and I found that after two to three
weeks all unfavorable tastes disappear. If I go off of UT for three or
four days, the urine reverts to a somewhat bad taste and bad odor but just as
soon as I get back on it becomes no more foul tasting than freshly brewed
tea. I control my diabetes through diet alone and follow the Bernstein
diet which is 98% protein. There are many UT practitioners out there who
say my urine should be putrid, but just the opposite is true. I get mal
tasting urine when I fall off my diet.
I drink several cups of urine a day but from what I remember of Martha
Christy's book "Your Own Perfect Medicine" her protocol of ingestion
is only two or three tablespoons a day and if you've read her story you know
that it cured all sorts of ill.
I have tasted my UT after eating a lot of meat and a lot of carbs and the only thing about the lot of meat is that it tastes a bit fatty and like the meat I ate. When you are on a high protein diet do you eat meats or other forms of protein. My diet lately consists of mostly broccoli, lamb, pumpkin and rice. None of these foods seem to make my urine taste vulgar but when I eat foods that are heavily processed it does. Could you post an example of what you eat on this high protein diet as I have not heard of the diet that you have mentioned.
You can think of Bernstein as a carbohydrate restricted Atkins diet. He
recommends 4 carbohydrates per meal for a maximum of 12 per day. It is
almost identical to the diet that my internationally recognized in diabetes care
clinic has all their Type II's on. (They have been researching diabetes
since 1923,, and continue their research.) My clinic's plan is 15
carbohydrates per meal. With each of them there is no restriction of fat
or cream. I've felt much better than when on any other eating style
including the McDougall Diet - on which I gained loads of weight and am
convinced that it promotes getting Type II. Not everyone will get Type II,
but the biggest factor in my mind are the grains, whole and refined. (Mercola
has a book - "The No-Grain Diet" which I agree with completely in
concept. It has cured a family member of all sorts of difficulties.)
Also on this diet all my lipid profile markers have improved dramatically which
is just the opposite of what I would have thought. Yes, I've been
brainwashed by mainstream medicine and dietary BS and it literally worried me
when I started three years ago, but I'm glad I'm on this diet.
I eat anywhere from 3 to 6 eggs for breakfast along with bacon or
sausage. The rest of my day is pretty much beef and pork with some chicken
once in a while. I will go for days on end with no carbohydrates
whatsoever, and my blood sugar levels remain within the normal range.
Things that drive my blood sugar through the ceiling are things that I like,
like sourdough bread (sends it significantly higher than another favorite - ice
cream), plain oatmeal also sends it higher than ice cream, and brown rice which
I love is right behind it. Now, keep in mind that each individual is
different, but I know other that have very similar BS problems.
On this diet I have much more energy than on any other diet I've been on and
am able to control my weight much better than any other way, another factor for
diabetics.
While strictly adhering to this diet (and I do about 90% of the time) my
urine has very little taste to it and zero odor. I compared it to freshly
brewed tea in an earlier post because it really doesn't taste much different
than that. If I eat bread, or even steamed vegetables, the urine taste
changes to somewhat sour or a little distasteful but once I've run that through
my system I'm back to my pure taste. I can (and do) eat loads of fat and
it in no way effects my urine's taste.
I have the same experience. I always did well on the Atkins diet and years before I tried the Stillman diet and liked that one too, same system low carbs.
Of course I did not know why till about a year ago I read 1/3 of the people do well on these diets. At that time I read the metabolic typing forum.
This week we had company and so I ate a lot of different things and right away I got sluggish.
I enjoyed reading all the information in the post and to find you had success with this too.
I have felt like this is the way I should be heading
I have noticed a slightly bitter taste after eating the broccoli but that passes after 2-3 cups of urine - this seems to "transmute" the food into something usable by the body.
so the 4 carbs is 4 what ? grams or serves ?
I seem to have a problem budging some stubborn weight and I feel it's due to the rice and carbs in my diet.
Well, as I've mentioned before, each person is different so each one is going
to respond differently.
If I remember right in the Bernstein diet a small Italian tomato is 4 grams
of carbohydrate. From a class that I took from my clinic, 1/4 cup of rice
is 15 grams of carbohydrate. It's not very much. I think that in the
Atkins induction diet (the low, low carbohydrate introduction period), there are
50 grams of carbohydrate allowed per day - that's more than my clinic and loads
more than Bernstein. I find that even small amounts of carbohydrate such
as a little salad dressing or ketchup will trigger a desire for more carbos so I
try to really restrict all of that. Found out too that first two to three
months are difficult, and it's difficult to stick with it exactly. But
once you do it gets easier and easier. When I occasionally fall off, it's
easier to get back with the program than it was in the beginning weeks and
months. I'm of the opinion that the older you are, the more difficult it
is to lose weight. I'm 76 and part of my "program" besides the
diet is walking an hour a day, five or six days a week. The combination
has kept my a1c at 5.6 which is the mid-point of the normal range. (a1c is
a test that determines the amount of glucose that is stored at the cellular
level.) Walking has also helped me to maintain and actually lose weight.
I drink a jumbo martini once every week or two and hard liquor has virtually
no carbohydrate in it. The downside to that though is that it reduces my
eating inhibitions, so before I have something to drink I pre-plan what my meals
will be and try to stick with it the rest of the day. I've been pretty successful
at that, but have failed at times too. It's like trying to maintain a
balance between sticking with the diet while once in a while giving myself a
reward. It's a learning process but after three years I have pretty good
control. When I've fallen off my diet with ice cream or toasted cheese
sandwiches (one of my favorite foods, with sourdough bread, of course) I drink
more urine than usual for the next couple of days and that seems to flush out
any effects of the carbohydrates - which is the craving of more
carbohydrates. I eat a late breakfast and with the high protein don't get
hungry again until evening so I eat two meals a day - in violation of what many
teach. But hey, it works - so that's what I do.
I tend to eat less meals too and I am not that hungry with the UT so I can do that
I have attempted to eat similar to the warrior diet, one or two meals a day but the meals are probably larger than normal and they help me get to sleep usually.
interesting observation about the carbs making you crave more carbs
I agree with this too
thanks for sharing.
Oh and exercise, well I go to the gym rather regularly which helps me but as soon as I cut out the carbs the weight drops again.
I am grateful for your participation as it helps me keep focused
I have no interest in the Moreless forum. I'm doing what works for
me. I've looked at Moreless' "qualifications" and am not
impressed in the least. UT has been around for many thousands of years and
it works for me - very well in fact.
I think you have to look in the mirror to see who first got on their high
horse and came into the UT forum. In each of your posts that I've seen
there is always a reference to Moreless and a put down of UT.
I see that you haven't responded to the fact that all fetuses swim in and
inhale urine, and in fact it is required to do so in order to sustain life.
I know little to nothing about NPN (which you have posted about in here, and
which was posted above) but from all that I can find out it is an integral part
of both human and bovine milk at significantly higher levels than urine,
something that is required for life. In fact, both of those milks have
urea in them. I'm assuming that Moreless and all those who follow him
follow a lactate free diet because if they don't, they are getting much more NPN
there than they would ever get from UT.
from what I have seen of the posts by Di she seems to be trying to discourage people from ingesting large amounts of urine yet she has never tried it herself
doesn't that sound a little hypocritical ?
from what I have seen she may have started but got discouraged by the detox reaction you get at first via the skin (this lasted for 2 - 8 months for me on and off). I backed off the amount I was having when this happened a bit but I knew it had to happen. Mostly it occurred when I had over 10 cups per day.
this is a very natural reaction as some substances can not be removed from the body via any other method, the skin plays a vital role here, she talked of chemical toxicity, I had the same problem, exposure to large amounts of malthoine. A pesticide that stays in the system.
I have had this reaction myself and I have had a few welts / pimple like boils come up but I stuck with it and they all healed up now my skin is looking better than ever, my facial hair is even starting to grow properly now, before it was all patchy and I could never really grow a beard without feeling discouraged and shaving it off, now it's finally looking like a beard.
but we should realize when we get advise from other forums that it is based on the view of the owner. As far as I can tell there is no owner owned forum that supports UT, though before the only one who did was Andreas Moritz .
In principle the only support you will be able to find is on this support forum.
when I fast it becomes very pure, almost like the taste of water, but thicker like a food or a smoothie I guess
I am way past the repulsiveness thing
I did have it originally at the start - I used to even mix it with juice now I drink the urine by the cup full. I even crave it sometimes if I can't have it during the day.
I feel wasteful if I am peeing into the bowl
the taste is very determined by what I eat
if I eat food that is poor quality or doesn't agree with my blood type I know it by the taste of the UT
what I feel when I have UT then is that I am transmuting the food into something that is usable by doing the UT
another thing I do which helps with the taste is drink lots of water
I sometimes drink up to 4 1/2 litres a day - this help heaps
today I am fasting so only liquids for me and I have prolly had about 8 cups of UT already today but I feel good and energetic, I love the way I feel when I am UT fasting, it also takes away that hungry feeling you get from normal fasting - remember UT is a whole food, what we were originally designed to live off..
A number of people here have mentioned the importance of drinking enough water while
doing UT.
As I recall, Martha Christy cautioned against drinking a lot of water on UT, she said
it would dilute the healing properties. And, Armstrong talks about fasting only on urine.
Also as I understand it, people who are stuck in situations where there is no access
to water, can subsist very well just by drinking their urine. And that the more
we drink the more is produced. Isn't this what makes us our bodies self-supporting?
That's the true miracle. How freeing!
I don't focus on drinking a lot of water, myself. I think if we eat enough juicy fruit, we don't
need to drink much. I do drink maybe a few cups of water a day aside from my intake
of urine.
"As I recall, Martha Christy cautioned against drinking a lot of
water on UT, she said
it would dilute the healing properties. And, Armstrong talks about fasting only
on urine."
J. W. Armstrong was suffering from "consumption" (tuberculosis) of
the lungs along with diabetes and had followed the then allopathic medical
routes for two years with progressive disease before learning about a man who
gave his daughter her own urine which cured her diphtheria in three days.
Here is a quote from page 29 of his book: "Fortified by my faith in what
I thought to be the correct interpretation of the text (i.e. bible), I fasted
for forty-five days on nothing by urine and tap water - and this, despite the
doctor's assertion that eleven days without food was the limit......I also
rubbed urine into my body - a very important factor in the cure.... He
cured his illness with this fast, which he broke, by the way, with raw meat!
All of the urine fasts that he prescribed for patients were urine and water,
not just urine alone. I try to follow what my body is asking for and
personally drink a lot of fluids - both hot and iced tea plus some water,
because I feel it helps flush out anything that UT is healing.
Alright, thanks for that. I still think juicy fruits are the best source of water
aside from urine. As with urine, their water is "stuctured." Right now watermelon
is my favorite 'drink"!
But, I probably would do well to increase my water intake. I love naturally sparkling
mineral water, wish it flowed from the tap! Oh, that brings up another question. Is
tap water acceptable to practicioners of UT? I assume it was more drinkable in
Armstrong's day.
the chlorine and whatever else they put in the tap water is bad news
also if you have ever seen the structure photo's of tap water you can see that it's in bad shape once it comes out of the tap. Going through all of those rusty pipes and having all the chemicals added has the a bad thing
fortunately back in Armstrong's day I think there's would be less added to the water
also your body converts anything you put in, to a pure living water once it comes out as urine, I just try and use distilled water to make sure my body has to do the least work
fruits are good too, they are recommended by most urine therapists and of course are living structured waters too
"fortunately back in Armstrong's day I think there's would be less
added to the water"
I drink tap water. Armstrong lived in England and to this day I don't
think they use chlorine. Think that it is ozone. I remember when the
Olympics were in Los Angeles the European swimmers refused to swim in a
chlorinated pool so the Olympic sponsors used ozone instead.
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