This may be a case of Agree to Disagree here when it comes down to "My Experience vs. Others Experience" or Study, but I am going to just share my information and you decide for yourself.
So after 15 pregnancies where "only one" came to term, I get pregant the first part of December. I get pregnant with multiples (quads, triplets, twins) due to ovulation occuring twice per month. Note: After starting Lugol's in the summer last year, I started finding that the symptoms of peri-menopause was decreasing and having not ovulated in several months, suddenly ovulated in December. This was beautiful ovulation and it took me by surprise. What I mean by beautiful is that there was a nice super long ovulation discharge. The longest one that I have ever visualy experienced. So after 22 weeks I delivered stillborn with what is called True Knot. I really want to give more information about my genetic makeup but I think only a handful would understand the scope of it, but it also plays a factor in this outcome. I went to jcrows and read about the these cattles and iodine.
In a herd troubled with abortions-evidence of the work of the Bru celia abortus microorganism which grows on an alkaline medium and causes contagious abortion in cattle called Bang's disease, or brucellosis-abortions promptly stopped when each feeding ration received a supplemental three drops of Lugol's solution of Iodine to each two ounces of the apple cider vinegar.
This makes me wonder if a bacteria is involved in miscarriage. I was treated for H.Pylori bacteria after the birth of my daughter. Plus! The nurse came in and told me that stillbirth is on the rise in their hospital and they don't know why but they have seen it almost double. I've searched the internet and tried to find any research stating that stillbirth is on the rise in America. NOthing! I can state that when it came to the decision of what to do with my childs remains they tried to get me to send him to pathology for testing and they had put it in the computer that I was only 15 weeks pregnant, a date which came after my first ultrasound. (no I did not get pregnant again, as my husband is gone doing a contract job for 6 months.) I was furious! See, if they can back date a pregnancy before 20 weeks the hospital does not have to report it to the state as a stillbirth, and a death or birth certificate does not need to be created. Employee time is cut down by more then half at the computer this way. The problem lies in the fact that this also protects the doctor in some cases, but does not give our country or it's citizens the information of knowing that there is a rise in stillbirths. I wonder what is causing this rise in stillbirth and you know for the nurse to have repeated it, that it has been a topic of debate in the hospital
Then my milk came in and I was pumping 36 ounces per day for donation and relief. Huge supply. When it came time to dry up nothing worked for me. The sage is for the birds. It just caused menstruation symptoms and reduction by only about 10%. The cabbage leaves against my breast made them feel like they were rotting off my chest. Three heads of cabbage later (which contain sulfa) and I can say that alternative is nonsense! So I started back on my iodine detox and Bang! my milk production goes up even more. I pumped 42 ounces one day and just over midnight added another 6 ounces to that amount. So I went searching again and found more info at Jcrows (starting to sound like a plug but I can't find any other information out there!).
The same remedy can be applied to cattle, in a somewhat different way than I have already described in the treatment of mastitis, although in the example I have in mind the reason fro administering it was the same. My farmer friend called me one day to inform me that four of his best cows were sick with acute mastitis of their udders. The veterinarian had been using the bacteriological approach, employing the sulfa drugs, but without success. He had just left the barn, said the farmer, telling him that the cows were going to die. Could I save them?
I told him that attacking bacteria as a solution to medical problems had not always proved successful, as far as I was concerned, and I recommended that we try Vermont folk medicine, seeking to release the energy expending mechanism from its continued activity.
My plan was to change the physiology and chemistry of each cow's body by giving her morning , noon, and night a "blood wash" as folk medicine expresses it. We would give each cow by mouth from a bottle four ounces of apple cider vinegar, four ounces of water, and a teaspoonful of Lugol's solution, all mixed together.
Before the treatment was applied these cows were running temperatures as high as 107 degrees. After it was given, the fever began to drop at once, and by the end of the week all four had recovered from their sickness. Three of the cows returned to milk production. The fourth did not produce milk until her next calf was born and a new lactation period was started.
Did you see that the sulfa did not help the cows either. I think the iodine cleaned infection and bacteria out of my mammary glands and as with the cows above "changed the physiology and chemistry" of my body. Iodine is higher in breast milk then what is recommended for babies by the RDA. Look at my last post below and you will see there is a link there where someone replied.
So then I remember that while I was in Germany at a spa, my husband ordered a sinus treatment for me and I was surprised that the lady performed it on my breast. She said that the breast are one big sinus cavity! Then I read on a discussion board that a woman tried a decongestant and it dried up her milk within 3 days. Bingo! that's it! The breast might be a sinus cavity! So I try an otc decongestant and milk reduces by 25% over night but that stuff knocks me out! So I get some stuff on Saturday called ClearLungs. This is a Chinese herbal formula and does not cause drosiness. Fearfully I took it because I was desperate. Bingo! I didn't even feel anything from it, but my milk reduced by 50% the next day! I've now gone 14 hours without expressing and feel like I need to soon, but I am only expressing a total 3 ounces, to gain relief now instead of the 42 ounces.
Conclusion- I think the iodine is needed to cut down the amount of bacteria in the breast. We always think of probiotics for the stomach but we don't think of them for the breast. Maybe they never reach the breast and that is why iodine is needed?
If iodine can cut down the bacteria and infection in the gland then it would also help the lymp system. If the "Bru celia abortus microorganism" can cause miscarrage in cattle then what microorganism causes miscarriage in humans? There has to be one!
When women find out I've had so many miscarriages or stillbirths they say, "it must have been meant to be!" What stupid exceptance! I want to say..."Don't except that as a truth! Investigate as to what causes these things to happen!" More women need to study the nitty gritty of the female body so that they can better understand it. Same goes for men! I am so happy to see that Trapper and Vulcanel give us personal information on what iodine has done for their stuff. It's information my husband or brothers can use.
That's "My True" experience! Glean from it what you desire! For now, I am going to start iodine again and see what happens. My milk production may increase again. I will keep you posted either way. Until then! HH
love the way you think, HH. With a little googling I've found that a connection between breast sinuses and paranasal sinuses DOES exist although there's not a whole lot of research on it. Just that Breast Cancer CAN metastasize to the paranasal sinus although it's rare. Although I guess that any cancer can metastasize to anywhere.
And, your post made me realize something about ME. After thinking that I was "done"(had only a very small area of what I thought was scar tissue near the chest wall)...I started thinking that maybe I wasn't. So, in the last week or two, I've gone back on iodine(at 150mg per day). Guess what? Same internal itching and elevated pain I've felt twice before as FBD cleared up in those areas. And same swelling of cystic area.
Layers...
And, I've had sinus problems for a while...connected?
Thanks Wombat! Do you think it is safe to assume that everytime we come down with post nasal drip or congestion that our breast (mammary glands), lymp system (under the arms), might also be under attack? We can spit and hack up mucous from your throats and blow it out the nose but what about the mucous that sets in the chest? Maybe trying to dry up mucous with meds is not the way to go. Maybe, we need to prevent it in the first place and Iodine does that for us.
It's very rare for men to get Breast Cancer but I would think they would have some problems too. My first husband at the age of 15, had to have lumps removed from his breast, yes he had started developing breast. He later developed thyroid storm and this is how the doctors discoved that he had Grave's disease. What a nightmare that was. His mother had thyroid disease (also diagnosed severe bi-polar) and it was said she nearly died during and after childbirth with him. He weighed over 12 pounds. When we went back and searched for a copy of his birth announcement it said he weighed 22 pounds. That had to have been a mistake. But 12 pounds is pretty huge for a newborn. Makes me wonder if all these big newborns we have these days are not from a lack of appropriate iodine levels in our diets.
There it is! You found it Wombat! I have spent the last 6 weeks trying to find something and going in so many different directions. The whole decongestant for drying up breast milk sure has opened my eyes today and you just confirmed and added more to it.
My mother was on Avastin for Breast Cancer for the six months before she died.
After one week on the drug, she could not wear her glasses anymore, her sight has been perfectly restored.
This is a sign that the muscles that guide the eyes were able to move freely. A sign that her periocuclar sinuses had been completely cleared.
I've read the first page and I am blown away with this information being that it is over 100 years old and the fact that we should have known more about the breast by now. I'm going to dig into this page and the other ones attached to it tonight. Wow! Thanks so much. Detox is essential with all the toxins we are exposed to just in our air. Amazing! Thanks so much Wombat! HH
I've been reading the Lancet that you posted above and on the 1st & 2nd pages the author talks about the delicate attachement of the fetus at one stage of pregnancy and how easily it is for it to break loose. He talks about different organs and if they are irritated could cause abortion/miscarriage. (I can't seem to get any of it to copy and paste.) He states that mammary nerve irritation can cause miscarriage.
My?? After a woman starts nursing infant, she does not get her period on a monthly basis but may see some bleeding. My mother (72, nursed 6 babes to the age of 3) always stated that she never got pregnant while nursing until she had 2 periods in a row. I wonder if nursing mothers are actually getting pregnant, then aborting and not realizing it. Possibly due to a baby increasing their need for nursing at different times throughout the nursing phase, say for a growth spurt. I'll bet that the nursing mother get's pregnant, the milk production slows down, the baby doesn't get enough of what they want, their suckling comes more often and is more powerful so in turn brings on the irritation/contraction in the uterus needed to cause the abortion. Therefore, the mother would never know she was pregnant and see only spotting. Or her nutritional needs might cause the pregnancy to be taken up by the mother.
Since nursing brings on contractions in the uterus, there has to be a very strong link between breast health and uterine health. I wonder if women who end up with Breast Cancer also have a higher number of miscarriages. Do you know? I thought fibrocystic breast disease and uterine fibroids were linked and cause infertility.
This may sound crazy but I have an 8 year old daughter and I've been teaching her about the female body for a while now. I want her to know as much as possible at a early age instead of waiting until she is 40 to discover what it is all about! I chart on my calendar each month when she is really cranky or tearful and have noticed since the age of 2, that these fits cycle every 28 days. I've come to the conclusion that the terrible two's are really not what we have been taught, but the maturation and balancing of the sex hormones. It's my own belief that some children go through the terrible 3's only because they are developing at a later stage. Which makes me wonder if there is not a correlation between when the onset of puberty occurs.
I have a friend who's daughter had vaginal bleeding at birth which makes me believe that menstruation possibly starts long before the signs of puberty set in. Why not? Baby boys get erections. With this said, then the toxins would start collecting in the breast, lymp system at a very early age. With the removal of iodine, and the other halogens increasing, girls may be developing mammary disease's at an earlier age.
By the way, is the Lugol's mentioned on page 3 the man for which Lugol's Iodine is named? Thanks for this link! I am really interested in it.
"I wonder if women who end up with Breast Cancer also have a higher number of miscarriages. Do you know? I thought fibrocystic breast disease and uterine fibroids were linked and cause infertility."
But -- post nasal drip *has* to be an "exit path" for lymph.
Quick google doesn't bring up an answer and I have to keep plugging away at work here, so can't chase it down to validate -- but here's what I'm thinking:
* We call this fluid "lymph" when it's circulating in our bodies
* We rename it "mucus" "generated by glands in the head" when it's in our sinus cavities/throat
Because we call it 2 different things we don't recognize that they're one & the same.
One function of lymph is to wash toxins out of our bodies. One of the symptoms of toxin overload is post nasal drip.
Ergo! :-)
Post nasal drip is the lymph dumping toxins that it's washed out of tissues of the head, down the throat where hopefully the immune system around the gut can handle, or if we're sick enough, we cough it out.
One of the first detox effects I felt when starting Iodoral was pain in my salivary glands. Oil pulling did that at first too . . .
"Because we call it 2 different things we don't recognize that they're one & the same."
Your absolutely right! Great point! One and the same! I think I need to print this and put it on my mirror. I need to be reminded so it will sink into my noggin!
This has to be one of the most fascinating and amazing posts
I've ever seen on any health-related forum. You are to be
congratulated for your discovery! Thanks so much for sharing
your discovery and your wisdom. Brava!
Check out the Transmission and incubation paragraph.
Once the susceptible animal ingests the organism, the bacterium progresses to the regional lymph nodes where it resides during the incubation period.....After a subsequent brief phase when the bacteria are in the bloodstream, the organism colonize the uterus, placenta, udder, and/or regional lymph nodes.
Even though ~50mg may be the most the body can use in a day, this sounds like a case of more the better, much more.
"When women find out I've had so many miscarriages or stillbirths they say, 'It must have been meant to be!' What stupid exceptance! I want to say...'Don't except that as a truth! Investigate as to what causes these things to happen!'"
Very true - I would abstract it out and apply that attitude to anything.
God built our bodies to work properly. If something's not working, we need to figure it out. Unfortunately, if the doctors don't know the answer, that's the end of the line. Perhaps we can hope more people will find resources like CZ and adopt the same attitude and understanding as you. Great post.
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