I recently purchased a Roxtract water system on the advice of my chiropractor, since the water it makes is supposed to remove calcifications/excess calcium in the body, among other miraculous healings. I don't know how much of the claims are truth and how much are hype, but I was willing to give it a try.
What disappointed me is that on opening the unit, I discovered all the parts are plastic, and the receptacle made the water smell and taste terribly of plastic, despite washing, which can't possibly be healthy. Apparently they used to be glass, but switched to plastic 2 years ago to bring the price down and prevent breakage during shipping, etc. What a shame.
Does anyone use this system, and can you advise on whether the plastic will completely off-gas eventually? The guy who sold it to me sells a lot of these and says I'm the only one who has complained of it, which I find baffling. My husband and I couldn't believe how bad it was "contaminated" with the plastic smell and taste, we even ran our usual reverse-osmosis, double de-gassed, distilled and ozonated water we typically have delivered through the system, and it went in tasting lovely and came out tasting like....plastic. Only slightly less intense than the previous batch with tap water, even after sitting in the container no longer than maybe an hour. What a disappointment. I was really hoping to see whether drinking this water would do what is claimed for my health, but I'm afraid to drink it right now. I'd filter it into another container, except part of the deal is the far infrared magnet gizmo in the spout, and the top part where the water sits until its filtered through the ceramic piece is also the same plastic.
I've googled this topic and can't find anything on the plastic issue with this particular system. Wondered if anyone here could advise.
i just read through the website for roxtract. tons of words and lots of talk about minerals and ionic etc, and yet i could not find any specific information about the mechanics of this system. exactly what kind of filter is this? what is in the filter? there is a brief mention of aluminum, which would indicate it might contain activated alumina. that is one of the few filters that will remove fluoride, so thats good. but does it leach aluminum into the water? i dont know.
overall this website is short of facts and high on hype. also they use very vague terms such "the russians" are ready to announce this may treat cancer. who are 'the russians'? a university? a government agency? which one? it sounds very suspicious to me.
i never buy stuff from people who are not upfront about what they are selling and in my opinion it seems like these people are not.
you might try running some acidic water through your system. try running water that has apple cider vinegar added to it. this might help to eliminate the plastic taste.
thank you, I'll try the ACV, it seems like the problem is actually the reservoir where the water collects after being filtered. It's a ceramic filter, I think 2 micron (?), it takes forever, one drip at a time. I think the minerals create some kind of chemical reaction or magnetic charge with tap water to cause impurities to clump together so they are large enough to be removed and filtered out, something like that. Obviously I did not do a lot of homework before buying this. Basically, the chiropractor I saw took some new X-rays and pointed out some calcifications in my carotid arteries, I guess the fact that they showed up on this type of X-ray is concerning. I wasn't totally surprised because I've got calcifications under my skin around my eyelids, and I knew if it was depositing there, it was depositing elsewhere in my body. The main reason I got this system is that drinking the water is supposed to dissolve calcium deposits (I'm assuming only the kind of calcium you want to get rid of, not from your bones.) It's also supposed to be structured water, smaller molecules or something so that you are more hydrated and helps dump toxins. I figured the proof would be in the pudding. It wasn't horribly expensive, I got a discount, so I thought I would try it. The guy who sold it to me is willing to let me return it if I'm not happy with it, but I was hoping to give it a go and see if I feel any different on it, assuming I am not drinking water that has plastic molecules leached into it. Then, if I don't notice a difference, I might just pass it on to my parents, since it's better than drinking from the tap, which I think is what they're doing now. Maybe I'll try that Vitalizer with the water we get delivered. I know it's good stuff because we ran it through the Roxtract system and it didn't deposit a single thing on the filter.
I do have to say that the guy who sold it to me looks fantastic for a "senior." He says he's mostly just on the water now, very little supplementation, and he used to be quite toxic (though he's done fasting and other things in the past). I would have pegged him 10 years younger, very vital and healthy looking. He didn't make much on the sale, and it's not a multi-level, he has a franchise. He drove a fair distance to set it up for me and was here talking about all kinds of health stuff for several hours, he wasn't a "salesman" type, basically a guy on a health quest who raised a whole mess of kids on organic food, etc., and he feels like this water system proved itself to him and his family. We'll see, if I can resolve the plastic issue, I'm hoping it lives up to at least some of the claims.
thats interesting about the guy. sounds like something he is doing is working for him.
the unit may be very good. i just got frustrated with the vague explanations about how exactly the unit works and what type of filter it is. i couldn't find anywhere where it mentions it is ceramic based. did i just overlook something?
anyway, if its just the reservoir the ACV should work to cut that plastic taste out.
another idea is to leave the drain open so the filtered water immediately drains out and into a glass receptacle. not sure if thats possible but it might work.
the only website I went to was the one they gave the guy who sold it to me. I can't remember if I read about the ceramic filter, or whether he told me. It's a little dome that sticks up in the top chamber, that's where you put the designated amount of minerals with the tap water, and it drips from there into the lower chamber.
We had heard that distilled water tends to attract contaminants, so we filled up the lower chamber with that and let it sit for about a day and a half, I didn't smell the plastic at that point, so I decided to run another batch through and it's doing it's thing right now, haven't tasted it yet.
If the plastic taste isn't gone, I'll try the ACV, but I'm not sure I should put that through the filter, maybe just fill up the lower chamber with the ACV in water. What ratio would you suggest? It holds about 10 quarts.
actually I just re-read your earlier post where you were talking about ionizers. The Roxtract isn't a machine per se, but supposedly the minerals are ionic, and I think the water is supposed to be as well? You mentioned that the structure is only good for the GI tract and carry un-removed poisons to the tissues. Well now that's scary stuff.
I think the Vitalizer is supposed to make hex water, right? He was saying that the Roxtract is supposed to remove pharmaceutical residues in the water, in addition to fluoride, metals, pathogens, etc. Yet the ionized minerals are supposed to make it through the filter to be of nutritional benefit when you drink it. It's all very confusing. Ideally I'd be able to take the water filtered through the roxtract to a lab and have it tested for any possible contaminants to see whether it's really effectively filtering.
I think the water we have delivered is very good. It's low temp distilled, "double de-gassed" and ozonated, and it tastes completely clean and neutral. Of course, it's devoid of minerals, but we have been adding concentrace drops to it. I guess it is still not structured, so maybe that in combination with a Vitalyzer instead? I wonder if it would work on the calcification issue, as the Roxtract claims to.
i do not know if the vitalizer water will work on calcification or not. i just posted someting about my experiences with the vitalizer here if you are interested.
thank you , I will check out your link. I just started taking grape seed extract on that same chiropractor's recommendation, though I bought the cheap NOW brand. I find their enzymes just fine, so I thought I'd save myself the extra bucks and try their grapeseed extract. I also did a web search on calcium deposits in arteries and came across EDTA for chelation of heavy metals and mineral deposits. I am thinking of ordering some, but wondering about companion products, I know I've read here that sometimes chelation is a problem when your body sort of recirculates the stuff it's dumping if it's not bound to a carrier or whatever.
No, I haven't gotten around to trying the ACV yet, what do you think about a ratio of vinegar to water? I honestly can't figure out whether the plastic smell/taste is coming from one or both of the 2 reservoirs or the filter itself, though it's a ceramic filter... very weird. I had high hopes for this product but I have a feeling I will be returning it. Could be that the mineral solution is somehow pulling the plastic molecules out of the container the same way it supposedly causes other contaminants to attract and clump together.
ok, I dumped a whole bottle of ACV into the 10 quart container with water up to the top and it's sitting there now, what do you think, how long should I leave it? I'm afraid to do that in the top reservoir because I'm not sure what will happen to the filter, particularly without the minerals. If I ruin this thing with my experiments, I won't be able to return it. I'm pretty determined to make it work if I possibly can, I can't find one negative comment on the net about this water, only positive testimonials even from people who don't sell it, and I really want to see what it does for me, but not if I'm drinking plastic molecules.
I'm waiting on a callback from the company, I called again today and apparently the 2 people who run the company are off at an expo, so hopefully in the next few days I'll hear back.
I checked out your post, btw, I would love to get one of those vitalyzers, but pretty spendy for me right now, esp. if we keep this unit. I'm thinking about getting a dog I can't afford right now, either - LOL!
wow, a whole bottle? haha! well if that dont do it i dont know what will! i would have put a cup or two in there. well if there is a lingering ACV taste afterwards you can nuetralize it with baking soda.
i actually use swanson brand grapeseed extract which is the least expensive on the net and it seems to be just fine.
i haven't really looked into EDTA so i cant tell you about it.
also have you had your vitamin D levels checked? D is what helps you to utilize the calcium you have properly. huge amounts of poeple are D deficient.
Hey there, thanks for the thoughts. I only left the ACV in for a couple hours, I was afraid it might start dissolving things. There was no lingering taste. I just tried and.... the plastic taste is about 50% better, so I guess that's progress. I think I need to do it again, and also the top reservoir, maybe I'll take off the filter first. The top will collapse into the bottom,so I'll do another soak and then maybe finish it off with baking soda. Sheesh!!!
Vitamin D....I've been supplementing with the drops, but my bottle is old/expired and they may not be any good. I don't get enough sun, that's for sure.
On doing a net search about the Roxtract water, I bumped into some info about how the right proportion of good "parent" essential fatty acids carry oxygen into the cells. It was in regard to cancer treatment I believe. Very interesting, I suspect I am not well oxygenated, either, and if the Roxtract claims are true, maybe between drinking this water and taking the right EFA's through diet and supplements, I'll start cleaning out and hopefully preventing cancer to boot. Here's the link if you're curious. I still can't figure out if they're saying fish oil is good or bad:
There's one little post about Roxtract way down, that's how I found it.
If you want, I'll keep you posted on how this turns out with the water system, whether the plastic taste goes away and whether we notice anything drinking it. I'm told we might detox for awhile first. Actually, I just drank a small glass and feel a little weird, not bad weird, but maybe it's it's psychosomatic - lol!
Hi Anja,
Do you have any update on the plastic taste? I just found this thread while googling Roxtract - it sounded great til I read that! I HATE the taste of plastic in water! But, love the idea of de-calcifying... I have chronic plantar fasciitis (and God knows what else :-)
Thanks for the update when you have a mo
Sarita
Hi Sarita. After about 10 batches run through the filter, the plastic taste is gone, from what I can tell. I actually narrowed it down to the ceramic filter itself, not the plastic container. When we first set it up, the instructions are to "shock" the filter by running almost boiling water through it the first time, that apparently "sets" the unglazed ceramic so that it doesn't have the powdery residue. I'm not sure what other reasons are for doing that. The filter is mounted inside a flat plastic "dish," and I think is basically glued around the rim. My suspicion is the very hot water either melts the glue or causes the plastic to off-gas. There is no way to see or clean the inside, the water drips slowly through one little hole, but the taste is better, now.
However.... now I am pouring in the reverse-osmosis, ozonated and distilled water we have been getting delivered for the past 15 years. When I use tap water (our city water is fairly clean) even when pulling it from the shower where I have a chlorine filter, it still tastes like tap water to me after running through the roxtract system with the minerals. Or, I should say it tastes like filtered tap water. I've been used to really good tasting water, so that was unacceptable, and I am also not convinced that it's really clean if it still tastes like tap water. I think fluoride is very hard to remove, too, and I am not actually convinced that it properly removes chlorine, either, so I would really like to see an independent water test done. I could probably pay a couple hundred bucks to have it tested myself, but right now I don't want to spend the money.
Interestingly, I experienced more overt "detox" when using it with tap water - my usual headaches were worse, acid taste in mouth, more salivation and painful canker sores. No idea why, or whether that was a good or bad sign. I actually had to back off a bit. Now I'm drinking the Roxtract water exclusively with no noticeable detox symptoms, but I'm also using the already purified water in it. I might try going back to tap water and see what happens. I do get a sense that with or without using the purified water in the system, the water that comes out the spout (which has the magnets and apparently is where the structuring takes place as it passes through) is "wetter" with less surface tension, so it probably does have the smaller molecules for easier absorbtion like they talk about. I had hoped this would eliminate our plastic bottles, god only knows what chemicals are in my body as a result of drinking water stored in plastic all these years, but right not I'm not sure I'm comfortable that the results from tap water are any safer. If I ever pay for a test on the water the system makes, I will post my findings.
My new chiropractor loves it and recommends it to everyone. I have no other testimonials to go on other than from people selling it, or from what's written on the website. If you decide to try it, I'd be curious about your results. I've got some little bumps on my eyelids that I believe are calcium deposits and I'm watching to see what will happen to those. It's too soon to tell. Oh, this is interesting but may or may not be related - supposedly it clears any constipation and tends to make you poop more. I'm not sure I've noticed that, though I take herbs to keep things moving. My husband, on the other hand, has noticed the opposite. More gas and less poops. He was pretty regular before.
Jury's still out for me, but by the time I know whether it's "working," it will probably be too late to return it.
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