The appointment with the TCM doc went well, I told him all the symptoms I've been having and he said what I already knew.. Its all related to the stomach/intestines. I made sure not to hint anything, he made the diagnosis all on his own. He was saying that the feeling in my esophagus is what seems to be a severe case of acid reflux, basically my stomach produces way to much acid and all my insides are overly acidic. He said he doesn't think I have ulcers (I still think I might..), he was saying I would be in much worse pain if I did.. what a jerk, I am in pain dammit lol. He was also saying all side effects (anxiety, nervousness, peeling lips, low sexual mojo, inflammation of the joints ect..) are going to go away once the stomach is back in good shape. He says once the stomach issue is fixed I'll be feeling like a champ.
Anyways after we talked for a bit he turned me into a human pincushion and jabbed me up with acupuncture needles to help with the digestive problems. It was a first for me, overall a good experience.
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Btw, sorry to disappoint you donqixote, there isn't any fermented raccoon guts or sasquatch pubes in the pills I got, he didn't diagnose me using a crystal ball ether! not sure where you heard this stuff about TCM ;P Maybe you'd like to explain a bit more?
Did he mention the use of other remedies in addition to this remedy? For how long is this to be taken? What is the expected treatment duration? Please be elaborate and keep communication open. I am also under the care a physician, but only in more Western terms. I think the whole Leaky Gut /intestinal inflammation is pretty similar in theory. Keep updating.
I'm taking his meds until thursday next week (30th), at that point I will go back for another acupuncture session and we will discuss if the treatment is helping. He said he has more expensive potent meds but he thinks the stuff he gave me will work fine. I'm hoping hes right ;D
Forgot to mention, 1st session cost $85, the one on the 30th of Oct will cost $55
We had a pretty long talk about all my symptoms, I think $85 including the 30 min acupuncture session and the pills is a reasonable price. I can't afford to keep doing this forever but I will try to keep it up as long as I can. The best thing is he seems confident that his treatment will help, he has confidence in his ability to heal, I got some good vibes from this guy.
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#92305 I didn't ask but I will next time I see him. I printed up some pics of my lips when they were peeling a lot, I also printed some pics of other peoples lips in the curezone images section (hope they don't mind :D)just so he could see how bad the condition could get. To be honest he looked a bit shocked for a second when I passed him the pics lol. He told me that its all caused by excess acid in the stomach, this leads to all the other problems.
I also had a good laugh because after looking at the pics he licked his lips a few times..
Hey bunny, I mentioned the joints cracking and signs of inflammation all throughout the body, he said that once the excess acid in the stomach is controlled, all the symptoms of EC will disappear.. I hope hes right, he made it sound easy lol
Another thing he mentioned was small diet changes, he said not to drink milk or eat any fruit.. its funny because I haven't done either in months. I noticed these things on my own a while back, my stomach doesn't seem to respond well to those foods. Other than that he said not to include vinegar in my diet. I'm sure alcohol is on the list as well.. he didn't mention it tho. He also told me to eat food consistently, to make a routine and to eat several times per day around the same time and to never go hungry. This maybe more in relation to the "acid reflux" problem that I'm having.. he says when I don't eat for a long time the acid in my stomach starts building up and causes problems. He was telling me this is a big part of the healing process.
I've got acid reflux ( went to docs/thats why I said u didn't have ulcers), but I found out that it was tea that was cuasing it and obviousley if I was to eat loads of shit for a couple of days it would build up, it's made no difference to my lips though, although you could be different, I bit mine and thats how they are f***ed.
Why don't you post the list of foods you got.
The list of foods I got was alkaline/acid and it said milk and fruits were okay so there is a bit of conflicting information there.
Montreal, I don't know what to say on this, I too showed to a Doctor sometime back who said the same thing as this guy. He said this was due to excess stomach acid and the lips are getting burned but sadly despite being on a strictly non-acidic diet for four months and after taking medicnies which were meant to curb excess acidity in my stomach for roughly four month, little did it do to bring any improvement^^ . Whats going on man, two people pinpointing the same cause but it certainly didn't work on me. I can only think two things outta this:
-Either both these doctors are right when they say its due to stomach acidity and may be the Chinese stuff is more effective in terms of rectifying the acid.
-Or these two are completely reatarded and they don't have any ideas what ec is due to?
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hey uk, I dunno man.. for some reason it seems much worse than just normal heartburn.. maybe its just a much worse case than the average person.. I remember what normal heartburn feels like, this feels much more serious. I'm really still not too sure if I accept that part of his diagnosis yet. He told me if I wanted to check for ulcers he would have to send me for an endoscopy but he said if I had ulcers I would be in worse pain. He told me any kind of food is fair game as long as I stay away from the very acidic ones.. no vinegar/acidic fruits ect.. I noticed with the milk I cough up tonnes of phlegm after drinking it, thats why I stopped a while back. I doubt the milk itself is acidic but it seems to have a bad effect in my stomach.
hmm, kartiks, its interesting that the doc you went to said the same thing.. was he an arduyv doctor? All I can do at the moment is follow the docs regimen and see what happens, if no positive results comes out of it then I'm going to print up all kinds of info like that sha shen ma dong article and see what he thinks.
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I'm honestly 1000% sure that EC is mainly linked to the intestines/stomach.. something along the digestive tract is causing this. Look, check these old pics that I uploaded a while back...
Heres my lips after 10 days of water fasting take note of the amount of skin that was peeling from my top lip, almost nothing, my lips aren't even this good anymore, they lasted like this for maybe a month after fasting:
Heres what happened to my lips after I completely clogged my digestive tract by stuffing myself with a full sized chicken. I ate the entire thing in about 30 minutes and couldn't even move after I finished it lol:
Look how thick the skin is.. it might not seem that bad to some of you guys but trust me this is MUCH worse than what I usually peel. The only time my lips peeled worse than that was in the first year or so of having EC. I remember from this pic the bottom lip peeled in two massive thick pieces, it was actually painful because half the skin was still stuck on the lip. This is sooooo much worse than how I was normally peeling. This happened overnight as well, I remember the next day after eating that chicken my lips started thickening up and losing mobility, after another day or two I peeled the top as you can see by the pic, the bottom came off the next day, it was really hard to get off, the skin was much different, much worse.
This is one of the main reasons that I'm convinced the digestive tract is key. My body was giving me a sign that abusing the stomach or intestines or whatever will cause EC to get much worse.. so it only makes sense that healing the stomach./intestines will make EC better if not cure 100%
btw dhamma, I'm a bit disappointed as well :( haha
mtlhg, he not only claims to be an expert in ayurveda but in many other forms of medical practises as well. His name is Dr Mosaraf Ali in London. He apprently has a long list of celebrities visiting his clinic. So I thought of showing my case to him as he might know a thing or two about ec. Even our very own, Mr. Muhammed showed to him with little result. I had a pretty tough time contacting him due to the proximity factor.
I stopped getting in contact with him the day he prescribed me progestorone which I later came to know that muhammed had told him. I mean, if ec is due to excess acid then why the hell would someone prescribe a potentially dangerous stuff which hasn't even worked for most.
lol, no joke man.. that chicken was sooo tasty I couldn't stop eating it, it actually wasn't that hard ;P Sometimes I have a habit of just eating like an animal until I'm completely bloated, this was one of those times. I wasn't expecting any effect on the lips but over the next couple days the changes happened. Trust me I know it sounds stupid but it really happened lol.
As for Dr. Ali, that guy sounds like a sad excuse for a doctor. I feel different about the doctor I'm seeing though, I'm gonna stick with him for at least 3 sessions, by then I should have a good idea what all his thoughts on EC are. I also want to see if his meds/acupuncture can really cure me. I'm brining him all kinds of research the next time I go.. the sha shen ma dong article, the TCM candida article, the nexus between the intestines and the lips article..
I have confidence with this docs help a cure will come to light.
montreal it is bad becuase u ate. Like me anything that touches my mouth makes it swell and peel. I mean anything! So much so that i can not use lip balm of any kind i used it for a while what the derm gave me and i got worse! Also it just might be the acidity thing. I dont have heart burn but when i dont eat when i am hungry i get those mouth bubbles i call them lol the mouth blisters b/c i guess acidity. Also i googled the remedy the TCM gave you and the first website that comes out says its for diabeties. What did he tell the rememdy is for???
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