--Success Testimonial--amazing results with drink: Now have Peace of mind & Calmness, Better Energy, less Depression & Anxiety & Better Emotions, No desire for addictions, Chronic Fatigue Gone, stomach troubles Gone,desire for Junk foods Gone, now dealing with candida using grapefruit seed extract
HI I AM NEW TO THE MORELESS forum and I want to share where I am in regards to his protocol and ask questions about Candida and my other concerns with where I am with the protocol. I have had Candida over twenty years along with depression. Other symptoms are a coated white tongue and a rash that I have used different antifungal topical medications for the same amount of time (twenty years) to heal, but they only stopped the itching and provide no cure. Recently my diet has finally changed for the better, but sticking to any diet has always been a problem. For one thing, the more unhealed emotional issues and traumas a person has , the harder it is to cut out sweets and junk food as they tend to numb the emotions, so I have studied everything I can to deal with my emotions and heal past losses and traumas, and in the past year have made great progress in that regard. Basically I would consider my emotional challenges as PTSD (post traumatic stress syndrome) .
In order to establish a base line of where I was before starting the protocol, let me say that along with the Candida and depression, I had chronic fatigue which was becoming very disabling. I also have had stomach problems for ten years and can eat very little in one sitting, and often feel like I need to vomit, and sometimes do. I recently have had so many food allergies that I got down to 122 pounds, and I am six feet tall (I could not eat anything without it making me horrible sick or vomiting) got very scared about that, and blood tests and ultrasounds revealed no troubles and no stones. The stomach problems started immediately after eating at a Chinese restaurant over ten years ago. I started vomiting, I had a panic attack and heart palpitations and thought I was going to die. Over the years these symptoms were greatly lessened but under stress and poor diet they sometimes returned. I also had horrible memory problems and add and adhd type symptoms. I also Have an ongoing fight with a mold infestation where I live, the source of the mold has been eliminated, but it took two years to get other family members to agree that the mold was real and to remedy the situation (I had a leaking shower stall, and when finally replaced after two years, horrible black mold was revealed underneath, and it turned out that there never was not even an underlying shower pan, only black tarp paper that was eaten up with black mold, and I am still not sure there is not more mold in the house or the ac ductwork!!! I just feel tired all of the time, and nothing seems to increase my energy. I had extreme anxiety and was going thru a “dark night of the soul”, and increasing concern and anxiety over my low levels of energy. The week before I took the drink, it took me almost two weeks just to put a distributor on my car; I never really had any abundant energy to work on a car lately. Other symptoms seemed to indicate more of a possible thyroid condition, so I took a thyroid profile but everything looked ok, however my symptoms were extreme sensitivity to cold or heat, again, pointing to possible thryoid problems. Any change in cold or heat would make me sick and give me extreme anxiety. I was just fixing to take more thyroid tests when I started the protocol. I saw a medical intuitive who said I had hyperthyroidism and a lung problem, but of course that is exactly what I had been suspecting all along, so she could have simply read my mind. Basically, I was just a mess.
First of all, let me say that about a week ago I started the alkalizing drink. I had been reading earlier posts that did not mention sipping it slowly, and somehow I missed that. Anyway, so I made the drink (without the kelp) and I used only about a teaspoon of the pickling lime that first day. I gulped it right down. In a few minutes I was astonished. I had a natural energy flow and an equally natural feeling of euphoria and peace and well being. I was quite surprised. This lasted a few hours, but late in the day I got so sleepy and tired that I barely made it home and had to crash. The only other response to the drink was a slight runny nose later in the day. . Let me please add that I also started doing a technique called oil pulling on the same day. I also had recently started taking a liquid live food vitamin; mineral and green drink etc., along with a liquid extra strength multiple B vitamins.
Day two: I used a full tablespoon of the pickling lime water in the drink (still not using the kelp), again I gulped it down and I noticed the same euphoria, like a natural cure for depression, and an undercurrent of energy (not hyper, very peaceful). I still had a slight runny nose later in the evening, and I got very tired later on in the day, but not as tired.
Day three: well I finally went over the protocol very carefully (the PDF that Evan created of the moreless protocol), and I noticed that it said to sip it slowly. So basically I just took a gulp every fifteen minutes or so until two hours were up. Again, same euphoria but not that tired, still had a runny nose later in the day.
Day four: I increased the pickling lime water to two tablespoons and found out that I could now handle it. I felt great!!!!!! I could not afford kelp in powdered form at the time , so I simply did the best I could and I used a liquid kelp (at least that is what it said on the bottle, said something about using it if you were low on iodine). I muscle tested the kelp which told me to use about 8 drops, which I did. Anyway, what happened that day and in the next several days was immense. At first (and this did not totally ever go away; I went into an emotional detox). Now here is a really interesting point. The drink gave me the capability to view old emotional issues (or just feelings that would come up during the day) and face them calmly. Even though I was emotionally detoxing, there was an undercurrent of calm and peace and strength that CREATED A FOUNDATION SO THAT I COULD DEAL WITH THE OLD TRAUMAS AND EMOTIONS, and along with this a substantial change in my behaviors and reactions to my feelings. Whereas before, if an uncomfortable feeling or memory was about to surface, I might quickly numb it out with my addictions (whether it be internet surfing, reading, watching TV, drinking a soda or eating sugar, or just being overly busy, etc). But now, I had no desire to act out with an addiction, I just processed the emotion, and again, I believe it was because now I had the nutritional foundation to do so. A very interesting note here for anyone who has ever dealt with depression. I have tried a few antidepressant medications, but never over three days for any one. They were all crap and Prozac gave me homicidal thoughts (don’t’ worry folks , due to processing my emotions and meditating etc I simply witnessed the thoughts but did not identify with them, although I worried about someone else who might take something as insane as Prozac who did not know how to witness their emotions). Let me stop digressing and get straight to the point, One medication I took for depression (only three days) was Zoloft, it took away my libido, made me tired, however it did one thing for me that the moreless drink does, in that it allowed me to processs my emotions better, except the side effects of the Zoloft were horrible so I stopped. I talked to a therapist who said that that is what a good antidepressant should do, it should take the edge off of (in actuality, the terror) of your emotions so you can deal with them, which is what Zoloft and the drink both did, yet the drink did it naturally and added a natural state of calmness, peace and energy. So let me state right here that the drink and being in a state of alkalinity can be a natural antidepressant for possible many people, it certainly was for me.
Back to my story: that night I went to the park and walked three miles with incredible energy, never tiring. In the next few days I felt a new strength I have not ever felt in my life. One day I woke up and had what was hopefully an intuitive insight, which was the thought, “secret agent man (of course my real name was used) you are not sick, you were just acidic”. I kept drinking the drink once a day and found out that I never tired. I had no afternoon slump in energy and I had energy all the way up to bedtime and even then I was not tired. I could not believe it, how could I go from chronic disabling fatigue to an abundance of energy in just a few days? My anxiety was melting away, I had an inner strength that was real, yet I was dumbfounded by my good fortune. . My stomach troubles started to go away, and I also had another welcomed desire. As long as I drank the drink, ALL DESIRE FOR SUGAR AND ANY ACIDIC FOOD WAS GONE. I had no desire to eat or drink junk food and my desire for meat was gone and I wanted veggies and fruits. Within a few days, I went from an almost emotional cripple disabled depressed man to an energetic calm man. I called a friend who is familiar with alkalizing the body, and our notes concurred. She said that when she sticks to an alkalizing diet that she finds herself naturally more spiritual, and believes that the spiritual state is a more alkaline state, and that diet can help get there.
I felt I had a new lease on life and started attacking strangers in the street (well, not really but I did start sharing even to strangers about the drink, trying to lead them to cure zone and the moreless ph forum).
To sum up the difference in what the drink did for me (I also did the baths with Epsom salt and Hydrogen peroxide a few times but did not get the same results as the drink) in just a few days, here it is again: Chronic fatigue gone, stomach troubles gone, desire for junk food and acid foods gone, anxiety greatly lessened, and a new foundation was created to deal with emotions, and yes, also let me say that from my point of view, lifelong depression was healed (I was still emotionally detoxing but not depressed in a clinical sense, and overall, I felt great!!!!!
Also, I was getting more and more resistance to changes in temperature (hot and cold), but most of all an inner sense of great strength I never knew. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!
My only concern was the Candida and the Candida rash. I had several bananas for a couple of days and the rash flared up, so I started taking grapefruit seed extract that had 125 mg of Grapefruit Seed Extract
with Echinacea and Artemisia Annua in it. I have read that GSE is alkalizing to the blood, but I am not sure on this. Anyway, after two days on the GSE my stomach became sensitive again and I was very drained. I read a lot about die off from Candida and figured that probably I was experiencing die off. OF course I could also be allergic either to the GSE or the other herbs in the product. I do not feel good now, and I am very tired and anxiety has returned along with a sensitive stomach. . I did some searching on cure zone about Candida and ph, and I have a question concerning all of this. Am I correct in assuming that when a ph level of 7 to 7.5 is achieved that the Candida will go dormant? And if so, then would it be best to just leave the Candida alone for a while (take nothing to kill it) and just give the moreless protocol a chance to change my acidic state to alkaline? Of course I did read the PDF about taking probiotics, and I am taking pb8 (I try not to mention the name of products but I decided to mention this one) but I am not sure if it is a strong enough probiotic to change my flora balance, and I am not taking it every day..
I would also like to say that I stopped taking the liquid kelp product after two days or so, because I am going to have more thyroid tests done, and some thyroid experts say that iodine and/or kelp will throw off the blood tests, so until then I must do the drink without the kelp. I did notice the greatest energy when I used the kelp, so I wonder if my thyroid is part of my problem, and if so, I wonder if becoming alkaline would cure that? I certainly believe it is possible.
So I would like anyone to respond that is on the moreless protocol that has or used to have Candida and let me know if they still tried to address the Candida with GSE or other natural antifungals or Candida protocols while at the same time staying on the moreless protocol. I did read some testimonies on the moreless forum concerning Candida where Candida was cured, , but in general I would appreciate some responses from anyone else dealing with this situation. And also if anyone else is trying to kill Candida, what supplements in general did they used to deal with die off? I just did a lot of searching on cure zone and read that sweating six times a week is suppose to allow the dead Candida to leave (I am assuming with the sweat). I also read that Candex is an enzyme that effectively disables the Candida but does not cause die off. I have been taking charcoal tablets to deal with die off, and they do help, but I am concerned that for long term it might not be good (they gave me diarrhea), and I wonder if Charcoal makes me acidic? I also read that orthinine and I believe it was called arginine can help prevent die off. Any suggestions and help appreciated and of course I welcome Moreless’s input. I obviously will try not to make my posts this long, but I did so to establish where I am at that beginning of my quest on this protocol so that others can take note of my improvements and mistakes and re-adjustments in order to give them hope, because moreless has given me tremendous hope.
Awesome post S.A.M. If people would just give it a chance and have at least a mustard seed amount of faith, they would see amazing results.
Glad you took the plunge.
In time you will notice things like mold will not bother you. Just keep your lymph system on the alkaline side and learn to choose healthy high brix foods.
I do think an interesting point in your post is how different people can respond to either the drink or baths. For me, the baths were the "I-can't-live-without" protocol that helped me the most but did realize later on that they were both very important to my health.
Thanks refreshed for the encouragement, I must say that it is too early for me to know how much the baths are helping. I was already feeling so great from the drinks that I would not have noticed if the baths were helping or not. I want to eventually try all of moreless's protocol, and surely we must admit that when it comes to candida, moreless's way is mind blowing, which is great. So often conventional wisdom is not really wisdom at all, but just something that society believes to be true due to either being conditioned or giving away their power to an authority figure. I trust Moreless's protocol, because of the history it has with so many people being healed or getting better, and because of my own fantastic results from day one, and of course, the ultimate authority, my own discernment and intuition.
Welcome to the wonderful world of alkalizing.remineralizing!
My history/symptom profile almost identical to yours.
Thanks for the heads-up re psychological effects...I had a similar experience in the first few weeks on the drink but did not think to share it here. Wonder if this has also happened to others???
You can find out the collective wisdom of folks who post here re candida and specific treatment ideas by using the search feature at the top of the page. Try something like "candida+______" whatever treatment you are interested in knowing about.
Please consider going back and editing your post and filling in the "keywords" feature, if you have not already done so. This will allow others at this forum and elsewhere in CZ to access it more easily by the "search" feature mentioned above. Put down the things you think someone might use in searching for the information that you have shared. This is part of how we pay back for what we receive here!
I'll have some more in response to this detailed and most excellent post when I get the time!
Keep seeking accurate knowledge in order to
Keep seeking abundant life and joy!
thanks Ld Di, I appreciate your concern for others wanting me to be sure and put lots of words in the keywords box. I certainly put as many words as I could. Perhaps the word 'MIRACLE" should have been my first word. I am glad you mentioned that you had similar psychological responses so I won't feel like the loner on that issue. I have stopped the GSE FOR THE CANDIDA. I would like to wait until I achieve a ph between 7 and 7.5 and then see how the candida is at that point before I try to aggressively attack it. Why not give alkalinity a chance? She seems like a pretty good girl, so I will give her her chance at stardom if she does not mind long baths with me and epsom salts and peroxide. (my poor sense of humor is showing itself tonight!!)
secret agent man (JOhnny rivers is the man, the man!!)
When I was younger I use to play that record over and over again. I wonder what Johnny Rivers is doing these days? Humor...not enough of it these days...bring it on. :)
The reason I love Johnny Rivers so much is that his music to me is fun music, uplifting and healing to me. Just pure childlike fun.
As I was growing up I listened to a lot of rock'n roll, to groups like THE BAND, DOOBIE BROTHERS; AND EARLY CHICAGO, and CREEDENCE CLEARWATER. Later on in life I became a solo musician and fell in love with folk type acoustic/coffee house music. In particular I was a fan of Nancy Griffith and Eric Taylor. Eric is one of the best songwriters and guitar pickers in the country. However, due to my overall health issues I had depression, and after thirty years of folk I realized that a lot of the folk music I was listening to was kind of depressing, and one day I got a hold of some Johnny Rivers music again along with other rock'n roll and realized it was pretty uplifting. . I listened to it all of the time and realized that even though I like acoustic music, the old time rock'n roll and simplistic lyrics of Johnny Rivers was more healing and full of light and fun, so his music I listened to daily, sharing it with the lady I was dating at the time, and it became a special bond between us.
As to your question as to what is going on with Johnny Rivers these days, I believe he is 61 years old now, still going strong, but on his website only two places in the country were listed that he was going to perform this year, AND DIDN'T YOU KNOW IT, ONE PLACE WAS AT THE STAFFORD CENTER FIFTEEN MINUTES FROM WHERE I LIVE!!! SO I GOT FRONT ROW TICKETS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, AND THE CONCERT WAS FANTASTIC!! OF COURSE WHEN HE PLAYED SECRET AGENT MAN IT BROUGHT THE HOUSE DOWN. I got to meet him after the concert and get a cd and poster signed. LATER ON THAT NIGHT GOING HOME FROM THE CONCERT ME AND MY LADY SAW A METEORITE slowly DISINTEGRATE AS IT CAME into the earth. So it was a great night and ever since I really love that song even more. I could share more about the special symbolism of the song, for it was a special song for my sister's boyfriend who has now passed over into spirit (and without me knowing that I sent my sister a link from you tube with Johnny playing secret agent man to cheer her up, only to find out that her boyfriend used to pretend he was playing the guitar and singing that song), and it also turned out it was my also the favorite song of the favorite uncle (who tragically died in a motorcycle accident when he was in his twenties--he survived Vietnam only to die in a motorcycle accident) of my girlfriend (at the time who went to see Johnny with me).
Last time I looked on the calendar, I think that Johnny is playing in Arnold Missouri which is a suburb of St. Louis Missouri. Here are his links just for kicks. And by the way, my favorite all time record Of Johnny is titled REALIZATION; several Jimmy Hendricks songs were on that record and Hendrix played the guitar on several of the songs. This was Johnny's major attempt at a deeply spiritual album with songs like LOOK TO YOUR SOUL, AND BROTHER WHERE ARE YOU. IT'S A GREAT ALBUM completely different from any of Johnny's other albums, and the cover is so cool, Johnny with a cool beatnik type beard and dressed in violet and purple with lots of jewelry. Very cool and sixtyish. OH and by the way, Johnny hardly wrote any of his songs. He did not write Secret Agent Man, but he sure knew how to play it and make that song internationally famous. They just won't let that song die, it has resurrected itself on the credit card commercial you might have seen on tv.
No more S.A.M., you ARE Secret Agent Man all the way.
I understand how uplifting music can be. Always thought it was weird everyone loved the Beatles but I was into the Beach Boys. Always had to be different. lol
Thanks for all the links. :)
Hey, what do you think of this song? I think it makes a good Moreless theme song. What do you think?
Black strap molasses and wheat germ bread
Makes you live so long you wish you were dead
Add some yogurt and you'll be well fed
With black strap molasses and the wheat germ bread
(Jane Wyman)
My grandpa's older than the old grey mare
He sits rocking in his rocking chair
But now he's got a smile that he can't lose
Grandma's sitting knitting baby shoes
From eating black strap molasses and wheat germ bread
Makes you live so long you wish you were dead
Add some yogurt and you'll be well fed
With black strap molasses and the wheat germ bread
(Jimmy Durante)
I gave up cherry pie and t-bone steak
Chicken fricassee and ice cream cake
I don't need vitamins or pills at all
I even mix it with the Hadacol
I'm eating black strap molasses and wheat germ bread
Makes you live so long you wish you were dead
Add some yogurt and you'll be well fed
With black strap molasses and the wheat germ bread
(Groucho Marx)
My nerves were jumpy and I'd walk the floor
I never got to sleep till after four
But since I'm eating right I feel okay
I'm sleeping every night and half the day
From eating black strap molasses and wheat germ bread
Makes you live so long you wish you were dead
Add some yogurt and you'll be well fed
With black strap molasses and the wheat germ bread
(Danny Kaye)
Now I was thinner than a pencil line
Had no muscles and I had no spine
But now I'm friskier than a pup
All you have do is prop me up
Just feed me black strap molasses and wheat germ bread
Makes you live so long you wish you were dead
Add some yogurt and you'll be well fed
With black strap molasses and the wheat germ bread
(JD) I know a fella who is ninety two
(JW) Doctors told the guy that he was through
(DK) But now that the doctor has been proven wrong
(GM) He got more hop in him than Hopalong
From eating black strap molasses and wheat germ bread
Makes you live so long you wish you were dead
Add some yogurt and you'll be well fed
With black strap molasses and the wheat germ bread
YOU MAY HAVE SOMETHING THERE WITH THAT BLACKSTRAP MOLASSES SONG,
BUT RIGHT OFF THE CUFF LET ME SEE WHAT THE MASTER COMPOSER CAN DO
pickling lime it blow your mind.
suck all the acid from your hide
a little hydroxide goes a long way.
better than eating an apple a day.
no more stress no more worry.
just drink that drink and do not hurry
a little molasses and you're all set.
to make a post on the internet. (now that's really bad writing!!
moreless's wisdom is curing us all.
must have been that way just before the fall.
now I sing all the time my molasses rhyme.
and sipping and dancing with pickling lime.
oh that's a dime to you refreshed for the picking lime song,
MRS. WAGES WILL BE DANCING A JIG ALL NIGHT TO MY NEW TUNE
May you continue to find Healing and the Blessing that come with Healing !
Just listen to what others who have been down the same road as you are suggesting they have found to help themself from these Free Truths and put it into practice and you shall continue to find Success !
Your intuition about the candida is correct. Candida is your body's natural mechanism to return it to balance. It is NOT your enemy.
My lowest point healthwise was when I was blindly trying every natural health anti-candida treatment out there. I was spending tons of money on Grapefruit seed extract sprays, herbal anti-candida supplements, and experiencing at best temporary relief. I had candida rashes all over my body that were itchy and oozing. I felt like I had leprosy.
Think about it. When your body becomes acidic, there is a shortage of oxygen so organisms like yeasts and candida which do not require oxygen to live, thrive to consume excess acids and return your body to balance. Problems with candida overgrowth persist only when habits that create excess acidity are not changed. Attacking the candida with anti-fungals is like sitting next to a garbage dump with a fly swatter hoping to kill all the flies. Instead of the fly swatter, clean up the garbage and you will have no more flies.
Interesting that you are not responding to the baths. Perhaps your body needs to rebuild it's calcium reserves and then the baths might have more of an effect.
Your post was an incredible blessing to read. It helps us all remember how grateful we are for the healing we've experienced because of ML's teaching and the information shared on this forum.
Remember to be patient. Embrace the initial enthusiasm and realize that persistence will be required to take your healing to the next level.
Continue to ask questions and listen to the voice of God inside you for observations to empower you to go where your spirit wants to lead you.
I wanted to give a special thanks to Evan for the pdf he created and also for his information on candida, and in general for his encouragement. I also want to thank Moreless for his tireless work in giving us his time and wisdom, and I thank everyone who responded. I was quite amazed by the amount of support and kind words. My post was so long that I was nervous that I would just get criticism. IT seems everyone on here really tries to be supportive. OF course there is on thing that upsets me. You see I love JOhnny Rivers and secret agent man is my favorite song. I wanted to be secret agent man, now that is cool. But now, instead, I am SAM , just plain old Sam, nothing special, nobody cool, just plain old farmer Sam. Well that's my karma I guess I will live it.
love PEACE HEALING SAM ( I KNOW I'M COOL EVEN IF I AM JUST PLAIN OLD SAM)
HEE HEE HEE HEE
Like Evanluck I too experienced my worst health during the period that I was trying to kill candida. I put all the terrible symptoms down to die-off. I now see that the candida protocol was just making me more acidic and that is why I felt so bad. When I found this forum I forgot everything I thought I knew about candida and concentrated on alkalising the Moreless way. I have been symptom free for 2 years and never felt better.
Your Success: Like Evanluck I too experienced my worst health during the period that I was trying to kill candida. I put all the terrible symptoms down to die-off. I now see that the candida protocol was just making me more acidic and that is why I felt so bad. When I found this forum I forgot everything I thought I knew about candida and concentrated on alkalising the Moreless way. I have been symptom free for 2 years and never felt better.
good health
Nicole
Answer: It is Good to see you still around and still doing fine after 2 years !
May you continue in Blessings !
How is your little one growing up and doing and have you managed a garden to help out with some better eating?
THANKS EQUILIBRIUM, THAT is the information I wanted to hear. I will try and stay away from killing the candida and focus on becoming more alkaline and achieving a balanced ph.
peace SECRET AGENT MAN (SAM'S A LOSER, SEE POST ABOVE FOR EXPLANATION)
I WAS just teasing. This is my first post that I got any responses and when I started reading the responses at first I was confused. I kept seeing S.A.M. in all of the responses so I kept asking myself, who is S.A.M.? I thought it might be the name of some supplement at first, like SAME which is an abbreviation for a supplement. Finally it dawned on me that S.A.M. was of course the initials for SECRET AGENT MAN, and even my friends got a kick out of it when they read my posts now that my new name was Sam. So I never stopped to think what I would be referred to as when I decided to use the name SECRET AGENT MAN. NOW MY NAME IS SAM. JUST SORT OF A JOKE BETWEEN ME AND MY FRIENDS. Actually I am more of a spiritual healer, writer and songwriter/composer, and also a student of computers right now. I am not a farmer, but that would be a nice occupation to be so connected to the land.
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