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  • Started reading, already discouraged by  Maiden  10 year  790  Liver Flush Support
    First of all, let me explain that I really don't have psychic energy to respond to responses, since they may be the kind which won't quite understand my situation in all its diabolical facets. That's what often happens to me. So I may just read them, because there's just so much I can handle anymore. Or I may play it by ear & see. In any case, I'd like to thank in advance anyone from whom I'd gain in a way that might put me on the road to recovery in a way that's workable for my situation.

    I have urinary tract infection (white blood cells too numerous to count), have been on Cipro 5 days. I have fibromyalgia, urethral bleeding on & off more than a decade, my teeth have ached persistently for most of my 41 years of life (metal fillings), I have an infection under a rear molar and recently had a wisdom tooth extracted that had been rotting in my mouth a year because the callous bastardly dentists (and endodontist) in my local area didn't catch on (due to their lack of empathy & mass-production mentality), forcing me to travel by train & bus over 2 hours to a dentist who fleeced me but who at least located my rotten tooth.

    In general the medical & dental system is rotten & has never helped me much.

    Now I see that this site recommends dental work before starting liver cleansing.

    As if that's so easy. You have no idea how difficult it is to obtain dental & medical appointments where I live. It's also too expensive for me. They've already fleeced me of hundreds without making me feel better. I don't feel like giving them anymore - with no returns - except their insults on top of their thievery. Each visit to a doctor or dentist takes too much out of me. I feel murderous toward the whole rotten, rotten system. I feel like committing suicide. I'm already in a crisis stage with my liver, and I don't know what to do first. I have to sleep lying in a fetal position because if I stretch out it hurts. Yet it also hurts me to bend down & pick something up. Wearing spandex at my waist hurts. It also radiates to my back. It hurts if I breathe too deeply. I probably have kidney & gallstones.

    I've been told that removing metal dental fillings can create even more problems - that it isn't such a simple matter. I was about to start an herbal program to detox my liver, but now I'm discouraged because of this site's advice that dental work is a pre-requisite. I don't know what to believe, or what to do anymore.

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    • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  ocean  10 year  711
      wow, you sound like you are holding a lot of anger and resentment, one of the 2 emotions the liver is responsible for when it's unbalanced!

      i would try clove oil on the infected or painful tooth and just go ahead with the liver cleanse. it sounds like you are gonna explode with frustration and the cleans will release the toxins plus the emotions associated with them. no point to hold it in any longer...you've come to the right place!

      don't be discouraged to do the liver cleanse by the sequence of cleanses. i don't think the specific order of any of these cleanses are 100% critical - you will find both positive and negative feedback from doing the liver cleanse first...just read some of the posts. they vary.

      good luck and don't be discouraged. this will all pass. take control of your health however the attitudes and the greed of the medical system you can't change.

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    • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  #166520  10 year  687

      Hi. I am so sorry to hear about what you are going through. You can and will get better. I did and so have alot
      of people on this site.

      I tried to post you a very lengthy message that took me almost an hour to write but unfortunately it got erased
      when I tried to send it. I don't have time right now to re-write.. If you will post your email address I would love to
      correspond with you. I have so many things to tell you that will help. If you are not comfortable I will try to re-write
      message when I get some time.

      take care.

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    • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  Hibiscus  10 year  856
      I know how overwhelming this information can be. I just decided my liver needed cleansing and went ahead and did a flush and was successful. I didn't do any dental work or bowel cleanse or parasite cleanse first. Those will come in time. For now we need to get our livers going and I suggest that you go ahead and flush!
      Metaphysically, the liver is the seat of anger. I have been working on blessing everything instead of being angry with it. It's working but it takes time to change our way of thinking.
      Good luck. Don't give up.

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    • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  Tracey  10 year  690
      Hi Maiden...and I just want to add that the dental work is not a pre-requisite. They state that it is optional.

      Many people still have their old mercury fillings and get healthy! You can too!

      I would suggest that you start with a Bowel Cleanse and parasite cleanse. See PTree's excellent information on Bentonite and psyllium: http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=105&i=979

      Then do a liver flush.

      You will be healthy.

      And the world around you won't be 'rotten' once you clean yourself out.

      Good luck!

      Tracey


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      • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  Maiden  10 year  772
        Thanks *so* much everyone for the moral support, and for some hope that my liver detox may work despite my pervasive dental bacteria/pain.

        Tracey here's my very-temporary (for-now) address:
        female?200?at?excite (remove the question marks and modify as necessary)

        I'm in a position that I don't even know what bacteria caused my urinary tract infection because all the stupid hospital printout stated was "bacteria". And so I'm undecided whether to order D-Mannose which costs $23 (and only works for E-Coli), or to try and find chrysanthemum instead, which [may?] work for all bacteria. Because I'm dead scared of continuing the Cipro that I was prescribed, as I'm told antibiotics worsens kidney stones which I'm afraid I have.

        I mean, people speak of NORMAL stuff such as blood in urine. What I've been having for more than a decade was REAL bleeding from that area - sometimes black blood. Yet any of the doctors I've seen would say I'm OK based on their shallow diagnostics criteria.

        As for bowel cleanse, I don't think I need that because even though I tend toward constipation, I've figured out a methodology which helps with that. BTW, what tends to spur my bowel movements the most, is to sit in front of the computer for awhile. I suspect that my computer emits positive energy fields which are:

        (1) good - in the respect of keeping me "regular"
        (2) bad - in the respect that it may be responsible for replicating my bacteria, thus exacerbating urinary tract infection.

        I know there are protective shields, but they're not cheap and I'm wondering if they really work.

        There's other stuff I suspect I need besides liver detox, and that's Vitamin D3 (my level is very low), Vitamin E, a form of Vitamin C that wouldn't irritate me, and whey protein concentrate. But I don't see the sense in starting with these until I rid myself of poisons and blockages. For all I know I may have calcium stones which may be too tough to break. Maybe that's why I'm allergic to calcium.

        I'm soon about to start on Bitters, Coptis and Taheebo as well as avoiding most foods that I like either because they're irritating or acidic or estrogenic. What's left for me to eat - who knows. How I'll get through such a diet - again, who knows. It's real depressing.

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        • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  Paint Lady  10 year  741
          I forgot to mention. I use a zapper and found that it actually had made my gums healthier. I think it wiped out something that was trying to develop there. Some folks feel that it's dangerous to use it with metal teeth so read up the pros and cons in the Zapper Forum before deciding for yourself which route to take.

          Take care,
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          • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  Maiden  10 year  777
            OK, I read a bit of the Zapper Forum & came across a post about candida resulting from the Zapper, but I didn't see re: metal teeth.

            In any case, for now, my more urgent worry is internal bacteria and perhaps kidney/gall stones. And I'm not sure if the zapper would work on those.

            Maybe for that I need a magnetic pulser? I've recently come to suspect that my bacteria were exacerbated by EMF fields emitted by my computer. I have good reason to believe this is the case, because working on my computer for awhile often triggers a smooth bowel movement (whereas my norm is to be constipated). From this I deduce that my computer triggers BOTH acidity AND bacterial replication.

            And if so, chances are that this might be reversed via magnetic fields also. But I'm confused which is the best for me, zapper, pulser, or other. I wish there were all options combined in one gadget.

            At this point I'm really undecided between:
            zapper
            magnetic pulser
            other?
            colloidal silver
            D-Mannose
            Chrysanthemum tea

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    • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  Paint Lady  10 year  726
      I can tell that you know how important getting the metal out of your mouth is for your problems so I'm not going to go into that.

      This is where I'm coming from and what my experience has been...I can't afford to have my teeth done yet so I've gone on and done the other protocols and have had a lot of health benefits. I'm doing it with the attitude that it's a support system till I can afford a good healthy dentist. I'm also taking supplements that are supposed to help get the heavy metals out of my body as per Dr. Clarks book the Cure to all Diseases. I noticed a lessening of leg pain after only one week on them. I hope my experience gives you some hope to hold onto. Some day this year I expect to have my teeth worked on but till then at least I feel as though I'm doing something to help my body. So at least till you can get the dental work done you can still go on and do the other cleanses.

      I hope you get feeling better. Sometimes the road to health is long and twisty but well worth the trip.
      Lisa

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      • Thank you! (NT) by  Maiden  10 year  857
        OK, I read a bit of the Zapper Forum & came across a post about candida resulting from the Zapper, but I didn't see re: metal teeth.

        In any case, for now, my more urgent worry is internal bacteria and perhaps kidney/gall stones. And I'm not sure if the zapper would work on those.

        Maybe for that I need a magnetic pulser? I've recently come to suspect that my bacteria were exacerbated by EMF fields emitted by my computer. I have good reason to believe this is the case, because working on my computer for awhile often triggers a smooth bowel movement (whereas my norm is to be constipated). From this I deduce that my computer triggers BOTH acidity AND bacterial replication.

        And if so, chances are that this might be reversed via magnetic fields also. But I'm confused which is the best for me, zapper, pulser, or other. I wish there were all options combined in one gadget.

        At this point I'm really undecided between:
        zapper
        magnetic pulser
        other?
        colloidal silver
        D-Mannose
        Chrysanthemum tea

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    • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  #166520  10 year  654
      Hi. I am not sure how to decifer the email address that you sent me. Can you explain?

      P.S.- order the d-mannose its a miracle.

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      • Re: Started reading, already discouraged by  Maiden  10 year  656
        OK, thanks! Maybe I'll give the D-Mannose a shot even though I may have some other bacteria.

        Still wondering about chrysanthemum, colloidal silver & the various zappers, though.

        Re: my address - I did that to avoid harvesters. Just remove the question marks and put an at-symbol (above the "2" on keyboard) instead of "at", and tack on "com" at the end.
        female?200?at?excite

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