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  • Breaking the formula down to proper ratios of 411 by  #69242  4 year  1,618     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE  Ask Moreless: pH
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    • --Answer--Breaking the formula down to proper ratios9  R by  moreless  4 year  1,740     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
      • Re: --Answer--Breaking the formula down to proper ratios10 by  #69242  4 year  1,597     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
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            • --Just to entertain your ideas for the Fun of it--   21 to 41 of 4121  R by  moreless  4 year  1,656
              Hi Mia Dearden,

              Your question: Thank you for that. I truly meant only to have positive dialogue with you and others.

              To answer your question:

              I do not see things as you do. I see this drink as a collection of energizing minerals, that when brought together in the right combination can create an energetic charge, when combined in the right ratios. The drink, if made correctly, should have the same response on any given person.

              Moreless Question: So what about two Different people with one having more Sodium(Causing them to stay warm in Cold weather) vs the other having more Potassium(Causing them to Freeze in cold weather)?

              How can we treat them the same and expect the one with enough Sodium to react the same as the one with too much Potassium?

              Cause and Effect !

              Smile Tis your choice.

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              • Re: --Just to entertain your ideas for the Fun of it--22 by  #69242  4 year  1,517
                I don't think you see what I am talking about here. I see the drink as a charge of electricity, like a battery so-to-speak.

                I suspect that when the body is provided "the spark" it will balance itself, whether too much sodium or potassium.

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                • --answer--Just to entertain your ideas for the Fun of it--23 by  moreless  4 year  1,569
                  Hi Mia Dearden,

                  Your question: I don't think you see what I am talking about here. I see the drink as a charge of electricity, like a battery so-to-speak.

                  I suspect that when the body is provided "the spark" it will balance itself, whether too much sodium or potassium.

                  Answer: Ok, if you want to look at it like this then I have another question for you: Just for the Fun of it !

                  What if the Electrical charge is Positive vs being Negative?

                  What if the person needs Positive and you make the drink Negative?

                  What about if the other person is Negative and you made the drink Positive?

                  Then what?

                  Cause and Effect !

                  Smile Tis your choice.

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                  • Re: --answer--Just to entertain your ideas for the Fun of it--24 by  #69242  4 year  1,510
                    If the drink is within proper balance, then it will provide whatever is needed.

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                    • Re: --answer--Just to entertain your ideas for the Fun of it--25  R by  refreshed  4 year  1,645
                      Mia, I think you would not like the amounts in my drink very much because I judge according to the size of my 1/2 lemon.

                      Small 1/2 lemon = 3 TBS limewater
                      Medium = 6 TBS
                      Large= 8 TBS

                      I have used this for a while now without changing it.

                      My biggest problem is NPN.

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                      • Thanks Refreshed! Your comments are appreciated. n/m26 by  #69242  4 year  1,517     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
                      • Mia, and others: here's a simple solution to the whole issue of ratios....27  R by  chirontherainbowbridge  4 year  918



                        I understand the impulse to want to 'give' others a standard easy-to-follow 'recipe' that could be "proven effective" ( esp. since many people have this allopathic POV of Rx and might well respond to such concepts) in order to get them on the path, so to speak...

                        I too had such thoughts, initially, and butted heads with ML a few times, when I felt I was only trying to get 'clear'. I can see now, my thoughts were mainly a form of compensation for the fact that some others just weren't interested in the protocol, or, in the concept that a person might be *reaping* what s/he has *sown*.
                        (in terms of lifestyle choice, self-responsibility...)

                        We often want to 'spare' others their own honest path,
                        and we may want to help liberate them from having to be uncertain, and going through their own process of discovery.

                        But, BUT, what I've learned over the past few years is that this impulse (to standardize or stand in FOR others) is simply an error in thinking.

                        It comes from siding with (consciously or not) a belief in lack, not trust in perfect abundance, and it aims to replace God with a bunch of small selfs, just trying to make their way on their own will/power. As such, it is a reductionist's mode of behaviour: The OLD paradigm.


                        Every person has her/his own inherent connection to, and place In, the All (God, Spirit, Creation). What we should all encourage of each other is that each one strengthen their own inner connection and communion with All that exists beyond this illusion of time and space, and has no problem seeing the Whole.

                        To look for iron-clad (standardized 'recipe') solutions with the same mind that caused the problem is an error!

                        This is like doctors getting people to believe if one antibiotic doesn't "work", a stronger one will. Think about the fundamental errors that whole medical "temple" is built on -- and then consider how much the blind are leading the blind.

                        There's a way out of that measureless bog of unknowing though.

                        Our own 'field', our very bodily form (only one of several, and the grossest one, at that) can be seen to be the tool that it is. It is ONLY, ultimately, a communication device.

                        As such, it goes against all reasonable in-sight (looking within) to imagine there is a specific formulated and unchanging battery starter (the drink) that will take the place of each one's own link with the Truth.

                        Reflect on that, and one can perhaps locate the little tyrant that wants to be 'king of the castle' -- otherwise known as the ego, (which in simple terms is at war with the very concept of God--since in God all beings are equal and valued and welcomed.))

                        That's not to say that a person is a "bad person" for wanting to reduce the All to a standard recipe-- just that that kind of thinking is an error. A missing the mark. And errors can be corrected and brought to light.


                        So... what would be the correct approach, if it is an error to deny each person their own discovery of a link with the Truth that knows and wants only the best?

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                        What about if everyone learns applied kinesiology?

                        I consider this as valuable -moreso even- as the refractometer. In fact, it can stand in for the refractometer, since we were not created to need to rely on instruments, however helpful they may be.


                        For some though, it might take a little more effort than for others, to develop the skill. Here's how AK would work

                        "is this (carrot, cucumber, broccoli...) ample/correct brix for my body's requirements today?" for my son's? my daughter's..?

                        How many of the drinks are optimal today... one...two...three...   etc. etc.
                        So long as there is no intent at any level to do other than what is TRULY best, ( the actual meaning of "not my will, but Thy will" ) and no wish to decide for oneself, rather than ASK  (and it shall be given) then, nothing could be simpler.


                        -One always starts with oneself, since that's where dishonesty might lurk, and one needs to clear that channel first. Google Perelandra, click on Education, and find the pages on teaching yourself  'muscle testing'. it takes a couple hours to learn. There are other sources too, but this one is very good, with pictures and all ). AK uses the electromagnetic field of the body much like a battery (which should satisfy Mia's train of thought). Also, it is in complete accord with everyone's being a unique spark of the One. it is NOT occultism, except in the true sense that "occult" means 'hidden'.  ( hidden within? Like God?)

                        with AK, once the 'yes' and 'no' are established for oneself, it becomes a very simple thing of testing
                        how many T limewater. One.. two.. three... One can then apply this to optimal diet... the plan of a garden. and to any number of good uses. If you live with someone with a disability,  say, who takes longer than others to accomplish something, you can save yourself a lot of grief and worry  by asking "what time will so-and-so be home? ...and so on. it makes life so much easier.

                         As has been taught, ( by Jesus, and other masters of self-realization) "these things were made for you -- you were not made for them". That's an important - no, a vital- consideration--something to ponder.  In essence, it means that all are equal and no one does anything FOR another, but that all might benefit and freely share what is given to All. Consideration of this also will help to undo the errors behind  the thought of an imposed 'recipe' on anyone, which should go a long way  to helping illustrate more of how this whole ML protocol works, and how it was made for us, not we  * to fit*  it.

                         
                        Dowsing  - or applied kinesiology -  is a *conscious* connection with the Divine, otherwise known as genuine intuition.

                        Easy to see why intuition has gotten a bad rap over the centuries,  isn't it, when it is one of the prime ways for humans to liberate themselves from falling into error, and control by others, also in error. Many people would (egoically-speaking) rather hide the truth from themselves, as a way of remaining "blameless" and dependant on others-- or, as a way of assuring themselves others are dependant on them! >>This suits big Pharma very nicely, since it thrives on 'helping' people stay in the dark, remaining weak and dependant.

                         The only requirement for AK is honesty, and the willingness to know the truth. simple. and the truth "shall set you free". That means, free of needing to figure out recipes.

                         

                        best, Chiron

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                        • Thanks for your thoughtful post!!28 by  evanluck  4 year  869
                          It is triggering some exciting remembering in my being!

                          I'll check the links out.

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                        • Re: Mia, and others: here's a simple solution to the whole issue of rat...30 by  refreshed  4 year  797
                          I am in agreement with what you said and just want to hug your neck. :)

                          For a person with great faith, it is a wonderful tool, but with all tools, it's only as reliable as the user of the tool.

                          Many people have blockage, due to religious or other teachings or just plain doubt. Many religious trained people will have a blockage just due to using the word "occult" because that is used in a negative sense in their training. Actually the Christian belief is that nothing is hidden to them, but it's funny how a simple "word" will create a blockage anyway.

                          Much like we see with medical minded or religious fanatics, deceiption is very strong and I know many people get tired of hearing ML talk about it all the time but it can be so embedded that the person can not recognise it. And if a person does come to recognise it, the next step is to have faith and strength to overcome it....fear is only one of many blocks.

                          Much like I enjoy the use of Iridology, yet many people think it's one of the "hidden or dark" things of the world, yet it too is only a tool...and only as good as the person who can read the iris truthfully.

                          By using the refractometer, a person with a blockage can slowly gain faith, if indeed they have little of it. Jesus, in my opinion, used things to build one's faith....miracles and mud on a person's eyes, just as examples.

                          It's a tough job for ML to teach to different types of people with all sorts of blockages. It's up to the individual to hear the truth and do something about it. All we can do is share and pray for them to come to it.

                          I know I'm working on my blockages and I hope everyone else is too. :)

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                          • Re: Mia, and others: here's a simple solution to the whole issue of rat...31 by  chirontherainbowbridge  4 year  811
                            hi refreshed. you're sweet. yes, i'm thinking even bringing up the word "occult" may have been an error--my intent was to deal with it in the open, bring *what seems to be concealed* to the light, but people who are fearful in their stance will likely be fearful anyway.


                            I agree that the refractometer is a very useful tool, and for many, it might be the best way to go, or, until they build faith in themselves as the ultimate tool--or instrument of peace. We haven't had the extra dollars, it seems, whenever I've thought to buy one, and i've found my way past this 'obstacle'.

                            I have been doing a lot of studying of miracles lately, and am learning a great deal. It's wonderful, humbling, gratifying. all that good stuff.


                            best to you,
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                            • Re: about the requirement of "great faith"32 by  chirontherainbowbridge  4 year  864
                              I don't want to make AK sound like it's only something for some special few who have great faith -- such "specialness" is not part of Reality: God's reality, that is. Therefore, ours. So, this is well worth remembering:


                              "Kinesiology is simple. Anybody can do it because it uses your electrical system and your muscles. If you are alive, you have these two things. I know that sounds smart-mouthed of me, but I've learned that sometimes people refuse to believe that anything can be so simple. So they create a mental block — only 'sensitive types' can do this, or only women can do this. It's not true. Kinesiology happens to be one of those simple things in life just waiting around to be learned and used by everyone."

                              (from the Perelandra link i posted)

                              "just waiting around to be learned and used by everyone."

                              I like that.


                              That's how I'd define "hidden", in this case. Actually, it turns out very little remains hidden to (any)one who wants to see. Maybe "faith" should be rethought too, as being less something magic, or a 'special' gift, and more just the outcome of a sincere desire to see, and to KNOW: as distinguished from perceiving, which gets filtered through a screen of the usual body-bound senses. Faith then implying a recognition that there is always more (to know) than meets the "I" eye.

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                    • Re: --answer--Just to entertain your ideas for the Fun of it--37 by  Will_I_Ever_Learn  4 year  1,598



                      I am trying to understand what you mean/want.

                      Would it be something like this: What would be the minimum amount for each ML drink ingredients to insure that everybody will benefit from the drink or so that all ingredients will be made bio-available with certainty?

                      I think a clue for that is the alkaline/acid ratio, a bit like what refreshed presented with the lemon/lime water combination.

                      Can we start from there?

                      Then I would ask: does the amount of acid taken in the drink from lemon juice/ACV depends in the first place on the quality of ones digestive system/HCL production?

                      Cheers

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                  • Re: --answer--Just to entertain your ideas for the Fun of it--38 by  #69242  4 year  1,517
                    Never mind. I'm no longer interested in sharing with you people. I have no idea why I even bothered.

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                    • --What did you share?----39  R by  moreless  4 year  1,611
                      Hi Mia Dearden,

                      Your comment: Never mind. I'm no longer interested in sharing with you people. I have no idea why I even bothered.

                      Answer: What did you share, for you never answered my questions?

                      The only thing I could figure out was you were wishing one size would solve everyones problem and as the questions I asked of you and you failed to address, it seems the answer is obvious?

                      Your idea would be nice, but it does not seem like it will work?

                      The Only case where it would work is if we choose to eat Top Quality In Season foods and these will provide our bodys what they need regardless of Differences in people !

                      For the Season changes change the Sodium/Potassium ratios Naturally in the foods we would eat Seasonally !

                      But, we still must change our eating habits with the Seasons, thus this Blows away your idea of the same all the time idea !

                      Cause and Effect !

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                • Perhaps we see what you are saying40 by  #53126  4 year  1,594
                  but absolutely disagree with it????

                  Why do you assume we do not understand you if we do not agree with you???

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    • --answer--a review--Breaking the formula down to proper ratios41  R by  moreless  4 year  1,674
      Hi Mia Dearden,

      Your basic question: Moreless,

      Have you considered this:

      Breaking the formula down to proper ratios

      I imagine that if the correct ratio can be prepared this drink would be extremely powerful. From my experiences with the recipe I have found less (minerals) = more benefit, especially when it is taken 2-3 times per day. Furthermore, I find that the only way to take the drink is when combining the seaweed into the liquid, but only putting a pinch in, just to barely taste!


      Answer: Have I not always stated that taking a smaller amount more often may be better than just one Big drink once a Day?

      Have I not stated for those the Sickest that they should learn to just Sip on the drink thru-out the day, rather than drink it all at one time?

      I have already addressed the part about making one size to fit all and How this may not be possible taking into the Sodium to Potassium ratio needs of each person as an example !

      Cause and Effect !

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