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  • Getting shots while fasting of 741 by  fballer  4 year  3,955     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE  Fasting Debate
    • Re: Getting shots while fasting2 by  #79439  4 year  4,007     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
    • Re: Getting shots while fasting4 by  mouseclick  4 year  3,837     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
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    • Re: Getting shots while fasting6 by  #85029  4 year  3,910     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
    • Re: Getting shots while fasting7 by  bluesteel  4 year  3,749     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
      • Re: Getting shots while fasting8 by  chirontherainbowbridge  4 year  3,843     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
      • Vaccinations - Off Topic14  RRR by  Willowley  4 year  4,212     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
        • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic15 by  fballer  4 year  3,739     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
        • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic22 by  chirontherainbowbridge  4 year  3,808
          excellent message. well said. important.

          I would add one thing--it is vital that people not go into fear states; it is fear that actually feeds the dark energies of those that would (knowingly, and unknowingly) imprison others, and keep them believing that they are nothing but bodies that can be attacked, and are therefore weak.

          It is the belief in weakness that makes all this "mandatory vaccination" stuff possible. The most insidious aspect is that it's part of the plan to get people worked into a state where it can be "truly" (factually) said that they "ask for it". As with the fallout of 9/11, the "war" and so much more, this is connected to all that, (while the beginnings are invisible)and the important piece of getting it to work, is that you need to create a level of panic that means that the people 'do the thing themselves', whatever it may be; and then the ones behind the scenes, with a much bigger agenda than health, or whatever you can think of, stay safely behind the scenes, where their actions are hidden in plain sight.

          In other words, the "sheeple" become active (unpaid and tax-paying!)agents of disinformation themselves, efficiently spreading the lie that vaccinations protect people. (That may have once been true, but that was long ago) In this way, anyone who promotes the *opposite of fear* can be seen and agreed by the majority to be "against what is smart", and thus, an "idiot". Or worse,
          a "new-ager" or whatver can be twisted and used for its opposite.

          Things that make people weak ( and set them up for disease and "disease-mindedness" which is the matrix) are:

          "news", which is mainly false, spiced with just enough "truth" to make it confusing and thus successful propaganda; msg, which attacks the body and makes it attack itself; splenda, plastics that masquerade as food oils; in fact most anything touched by the hand of profit-making, and mass-production at the cost of treating
          everyone as a brother. (sister, mother, father, child).
          Basically, anything that is not *of love* is of fear, including hate, or thinking of others as idiots. If it is not of love, however, it is not real. And that is *the thing* those with dark agendas do not want people to know. It's a "secret" that must be kept out of the hands of those who would release themselves from the prison of not-love, and would recognize that not-love is not real. Imagine the power of people en masse recognizing themselves as being radiant, and far more whole than they ever dreamed of!

          No need then for anything that is aimed at small bodies, with small fears of being weak. all that would be as inconsequential as a speck of dirt on one's shoe.


          Here's the important piece. Do not fear that these vaccinations will become mandatory. Do not feed fear states, spread lies ("news") and fill your head with what you *don't want*, but focus instead on good health, kindness, gratefulness for all that's good, strength and what is God-given, which is beyond all sects and divisions,
          knows only love, and is this: true worthiness in each one of all that is good and True. Darkness (or what is 'hidden in plain sight) has no defense against this kind of light.
          Meditate and increase stillness of all kinds, practise loving everything, and forgiving everyone...

          (and eat good food that is live and does no harm)

          Yes, do all that can be done to stop that happening, since acts are important to a growing sense of certainty and faith: sign petitions, etc. but know too, that if it does come to a point of one's back being up against the wall, and a forced program (which I do not think will happen: remember, part of the plan rests on people demanding the 'shots', so that it *appears* to be all above board, safe and caring of the populace; as if the WHO, etc. had simply responded to a cry for help, rather than something else),

          if it does come to that point of a forced program, this will sound radical, but just consider that there are more things in Heaven and Earth than in your imagining - these vaccinations will be 'disabled' by a force that is greater than any earthbound 'plan'. thuis force is aligned with Truth, which is an attribute of Divine creation, which is, in the end, the Home of every creature. In simple terms,
          the dark plan will fail.

          stay in the light. have faith.

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          • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic23 by  Willowley  4 year  3,809

            Hi Chiron,

            Thanks for that post, I agree with what you've said and meant to post it myself last night but was so concerned that I get mine posted quickly I forgot ha ha.

            Getting people in a state of fear is exactly what the government is doing with all the media constantly talking about a flu pandemic. People who are in fear will count on our government to take care of them and that is the biggest mistake anyone can make.   Fear mongering isn't designed to help people it is designed to put them in bondage to the people doing the fear mongering.

            "Here's the important piece. Do not fear that these vaccinations will become mandatory. Do not feed fear states, spread lies ("news") and fill your head with what you *don't want*, but focus instead on good health, kindness, gratefulness for all that's good, strength and what is God-given, which is beyond all sects and divisions, knows only love, and is this: true worthiness in each one of all that is good and True. Darkness (or what is 'hidden in plain sight) has no defense against this kind of light. Meditate and increase stillness of all kinds, practise loving everything, and forgiving everyone..."

            What you've described here is how I live my life.  You've given very good advice but I'll have to say that these vaccinations are part of bringing in the New World Order and I'm not sure that any amount of thinking good thoughts and staying in love will prevent it since its been in the works longer than I've been alive.  It could be that if enough people would learn the truth and stand up as ONE these vaccinations might not become mandatory but the fact remains that the government will proceed with bringing about the New World Order no matter what tact they have to take be it mandatory vaccinations or something else.

            Knowledge is power so I hope more and more people will start doing their own investigations into what the PTB are really doing, like you said behind the scenes.  What you see is not what is.  People don't need to live in fear, quite the opposite, they need to be preparing by cleansing their bodies and building up their immune systems.  Quit eating fake food that is filled with dumbing down chemicals.  The more knowledge people have the more power they have and power kicks fears butt!

            Once you learn the truth start spreading the word to everyone you know.  

            "if it does come to that point of a forced program, this will sound radical, but just consider that there are more things in Heaven and Earth than in your imagining - these vaccinations will be 'disabled' by a force that is greater than any earthbound 'plan'. thuis force is aligned with Truth, which is an attribute of Divine creation, which is, in the end, the Home of every creature. In simple terms, the dark plan will fail."

            I agree there are more things in Heaven and Earth than in our imagining's.  Everyone believes differently but I'll have to say that I believe the dark plan is part of the overall redemption and you're right it will fail in the end.  But the earth will have to go through the dark plan in order to come out in the Home God intends for us.  

            This is getting so far off topic I'm going to stop now because the main point I'm trying to make once again is that knowledge is power, the more power a person has the better off they'll be.  So start investigating this issue, spread the truth when you discover it, and don't live in fear.

            Willow 

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            • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic knowing vs perception...and back to water ...24 by  chirontherainbowbridge  4 year  3,689
              yes,

              Yes to all. And thanks again, for sharing the liberating truth. the more it gets around, the more it will replace virus mindedness.

              Knowledge IS power. The power of *knowing* vs *perception*, I now realize, the latter of which can be manipulated through so many means IF one gives one's power away, as most of us have, unknowingly. Ordinary, untransformed perception (that exists by default and grows "stronger" through bad food, sensations, errors in thinking and so on) is what "the world": called by propagandaists "the real world" would promote, via all its modes of fear-mongering, be they cloaked as pleasures or whatever.

              Yes, the one world gov't. is the plan, but light can transform that too, with enough particles (that's us) joining and shining. Better to be a part of the solution than the problem, and in this case, the solution is older than all dark plans, so we don't have to reinvent the wheel or push a mountain up a hill, or anything like that.
              :-)



              One thing water fasting *can* do is open a person's eyes bigtime to what is beyond appearances. Once the fear of living without food is conquered, it transforms into a real appreciation of what really animates form. that knowledge is genuine power-vs. force.

              This is extending (off-topic-wise) and I too will bow out after this post, but I would be remiss not to mention a book I've found very worthwhile, that should please the science-minded, and those (like me) who are more right-brained and circular-thinking.

              It's called Power vs Force and documents the results of the average person (by the thousand) learning a simple way to test anything for the 'truth' of it. That includes food, supplements, governments, organizations, books, philosophies...statements of 'fact'...

              There is an innate empowerment within this book, freely available to all, findable at the library: it opens doors: a way to help oneself to overcome illusion and deception,
              to see past it, and discern what makes one strong, rather than weak. Strong in this sense is not 'against' anything, not at war with anything, and naturally inclined to Light.

              Seems very on-topic, to my mind, and I do hope this thread stays in the water fasting forum, since it's got the same makeup, in spirit, as what water fasting has.

              best to all, Chiron

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        • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic30  ~BSA by  chrisb1  4 year  4,199
          Good post Willow,
          nice (very nice) to see you back in the forum btw.

          In support of your post this should be read by one and all..............
          http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1240222

          ...

          Sorry, we had to truncate this message! ... Click here to read it

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          • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic31 by  Willowley  4 year  3,732

            Thanks Chris for the welcome back.  When I saw this thread promoting vaccinations the part of me that so desires everyone learn the truth just couldn't be stopped LOL.

            Thank you for backing my post with these very important truth filled articles.  It is my innermost hope that all will read and understand what they've read and then send them to everyone they know.

            You should get a BSA for this post Chris IMHO.  Thank you.

            Willow 

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          • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic32 by  chirontherainbowbridge  4 year  3,669

            Hi Chris,

            yes, and this thread is becoming a bright star! Started off rather dark and fearful too... Nice change. truth is good.

            quote:
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            *Vaccines Assault The Blood & Violate Biblical Law

            The Bible tells us in Leviticus 17:11-12 that: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood… No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.”


            ****************
            So, in this way, one may authentically be against vaccines "on religious grounds", regardless of where one currently stands on belief (or not)in God. That is, even an atheiss unbelief is nothing to God; the truth needs no defense, and after all, God is love, so there's no problem! lol.

            interestingly, BIBLE = Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. How apt, you might say.

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            • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic33 by  fballer  4 year  3,791
              If you two think I started this thread to promote vaccines you are clearly mistaken. I am as much against vaccines as you guys. I started this thread to explain hows i'm pretty much being forced to take a shot if I want to attend college.

              And i'm glad this thread turned into a new world order talk. I knew about it, but didn't think everyone else on here did, so I never bothered bringing it up in other threads.

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              • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic34 by  Willowley  4 year  3,744

                Hi fballer,

                I wasn't in any way referring to you, I was referring to what bluesteel posted.

                "Get the shots. Don't be an idiot. They are there for a reason.

                "People who don't get vaccinated are usually the ones who either die or spread disease to vulnerable people."

                The above statements to me are very much so promoting vaccines.  In fact this person is implying you are STUPID if you don't get the shots and nothing could be further from the truth as I know it.

                Just wanted to clear it up for you, I think you are very SMART to not take the shots.  

                I'm glad you know about the New World Order, its talked about a lot in the Political Debate Forum and the Conspiracy Theory Debate Forum.  I have never brought it up in this forum either because it is so off topic for the forum.  I'm glad Chris said this thread will stay put because it is packed full of TRUTH and life saving information if people will read it.

                Good luck with not getting the shots.

                Willow 

                 

                 

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              • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic35 by  chirontherainbowbridge  4 year  3,649
                nope--i did not think you were promoting vaccines either.

                I think it's dreadful that people are forced to get them, (or are led to believe they have no choice: it amounts to the same thing) and would like to see a way out of this 'darkness' for you--that's the dark beginnings of the thread I was referring to. and as far as getting 'shots' while on a fast...well..yes. That sounds very 'dark' too.

                good luck

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          • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic36 by  Will_I_Ever_Learn  4 year  3,711
            Hi chrisb1

            I could not help myself to add some links about the flu.

            Here are just a few. Too much text to copy and paste.

            http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6636

            http://www.whale.to/v/spanish_flu.html


            http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1408028#i

            http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1407209#i

            http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1369358#i


            These two are copies of Dr Mercola's
            http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1457222#i

            http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1409971#i


            These are just a few. Yet, that's a lot.

            Cheers to all of you here

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        • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic37 by  #91053  4 year  3,625


          David Icke. You have to be kidding me. He is a nutcase. He used to say he was the new 'Messiah'.


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        • Re: Vaccinations - Off Topic38 by  bluesteel  4 year  3,617

           


          You're right about that, the shots are there for a reason.  They're there to make you sick or possibly even end up killing you.  The people who are idiots are the people who TAKE the shots.  No scratch that, I don't want to call anyone an idiot.

          Those who will take the shots do so because they don't know any better.  They are called sheeple

           

          I don't like to accuse people. But you sound like a conspiracy theorist. The fact that you used the word sheeple only helps me in confirming it. I'm not going to get into an argument about vaccination because people who think  vaccinations are there to intentionally cause sickness can't be reasoned with.

           

           

          Sorry you're wrong again.  We were born with a God given natural immune system but once the government gets ahold of you and gives you all the vaccines they destroy your natural immune system.  Its what they were designed to do from the beginning.  

          I'll not get into the "Swine Flu Vaccine" that is going to be mandatory probably by this fall, you'll either end up taking the shot or you'll go to a FEMA camp and be imprisoned for not taking it.  Some think this "Swine Flu Vaccine" which will entail two shots will have an RFID chip in it to be implanted in you along with the drugs they plan on depopulating the world with.

           

          Imprisonment in a fema camp? RFID chip? I'm not sure. Are you mocking me? I don't see how a sensible person can believe in that. I bet your one of those people who believe that when you give blood you get a chip implanted in you.

           

          Btw how is the CIA chip in your head? Is is transmitting well? LOL I'm going to keep on reading this thread. If more posts like this show up. It would end up entertaining.

           

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