I took the time to read up on the many interactions and conflicts and learned much that I had not known before.
As this is the Personal Conflicts forum, it appears to be the place to issue these sentiments. Here are mine.
CZ has been fantastic. I am beyond grateful to have arrived at this site. Having acquired an inordinate about of information, some friendships, I am forever grateful.
However, CZ is becoming more and more sour.
Not only am I appalled, and disgusted, but truly amazed that the Webmaster would allow this kind of behavior from primarily ML to perpetuate. This is poison. Not having followed these interactions and goings ons before, in doing some catch up this eve, it clearly became revolting. I am all for free speech, but am also for decorum. And am also for following established Terms of Service. It has been brought up repeatedly why the webmaster would not follow his own Terms of Service, but that is clearly in play here. Why?
Any thinking, any intellectually honest person would see what is going on here. ML has said a lot of hurtful, harmful, cruel, disgusting things. Many of the posts in the ML forum are confused. Some are beyond laughable. I went to the forum as I do others, developed an opinion, and made a choice not to participate. Simple. Choice. But to see ML go outside his forum and cherry pick a poster's text and reform it with the abject cruelty that he did is filthy and disgusting. Wombat came to her defense, and the also in defense of the Terms of Service, as have many other people took up the cause, and I do same now. Many wonder why the established TOS are not being honored. Why? If for no other reason that to refer to the TOS is to maintain some civility. That has clearly broken down.
Others can debate the efficacy of the ML forum. Having recently observed what I found hard to be true, that in addition to all the ridiculous behavior he exhibits, to actually go in and change other poster's text is beyond disgust. To be perpetually abusive and sprinkle scripture in the posts at the same time is either from someone who is gaming the system and laughing at everyone, or if that person takes themselves seriously, that is the mind of a sick person.
It is easy to look at this personality and call it what it is, which is disgusting.
But forget all the above. Forget it. Wipe it from your minds. Forget everything I just wrote. Because all that pales when I read what ML actually responded to Wombat with above. Words like disgust, trash, narcissist, sadist, are not enough. The basest, lowest, clearest word I can think of to describe another person who has the nerve to post something that vile is what I use here. For you, ML, which I assume you are a male, to knowingly say those words to a woman....
I admire the courage of the poster to post her experience with iodine, negative or not... this is beneficial for all those who may be inclined to over do it. I also am not apposed to ML posting it in his forum... I would have never seen it otherwise.
I would hope that all people, in the interest and love for others would post their bad experiences here with ANY protocol, be it herbs, spices, a particular diet or cleanse, what have you... that is how we all learn. It is absolutely essential.
People who have been on strict fruititarian diets have seen incredible benefits, great health and then a health crash within a year or so... and then disappear... leading me to believe, as common sense has told me, a fruititarian diet is NOT the way to be or go... period.
This person's bad experience does NOT negate the benefits experienced by others with Iodine one iota, nor does it imply that iodine is "bad", she just over did it is all. 100 to 200mg daily for 2.5 years was it?
Cayce's reading suggestions in "some" cases was a specific protocol for a limited period of time (weeks) twice a year or so and that was it... Jarvis was a drop or two (dependent upon weight) of Lugol's in water and vinegar 2 - 3 times (more during cold and flu season) a week, indefinitely... and the use of kelp.
the iodine doctors are about 50mg in specific cases for a period of up to 6 months and then back to maintenance...
She over did it... period.
I think at one time we came up with the idea of about 7 or 8mg a day for men and 12mg a day for women... with dietary sources, like seaweeds, and/or magnascent and/or SSKI this is easy enough to accomplish.
If any one of ML's protocol users have a bad experience with the protocol it is spread around the zone in a heartbeat... and it should be. In all the cases I have seen where this has happened, the "user" made mistakes, misapplied and/or over did it... just as this individual did.
people need to use their heads, apply common sense and take FULL responsibility for their actions. By posting a "bad" experience, I see an individual who has accepted responsibility... and one of courage and honesty.
Perhaps these lessons will make people think about what they are doing AND shake them up to understand that if a little is good, more is NOT better.
As I have stated before... many symptoms of hypo or hyper anything including iodine or calcium are identical and/or similar.
Different people (genetically and adaptively) require different ways to go about things to get well and ML's protocol is NOT for everyone as I have stated before, neither is iodine in the form of Lugol's or Iodoral... lower doses of magnascent, detoxified, and/or kelp may work for these folks.
Anything inert (minerals, what-have-you), is neither good, nor bad, it is man who makes it so.
yes, and just now a good and mutual friend of ours just informed me this is a bunch of BS about something cora said.
if thats true, let it be known her problems were with her long before Iodine and she has emphatically stated that iodine is the one thing that has consistently helped her.
this is fraud on MLs part. not like it hasnt happened before. like the time southern belle banned him from his own forum and he created new names and accounts and gave testimonies for his own "protocol" or whatever you want to call it.
ML says some good things(which can be found elsewhere on the site) and all of us have engaged in bad behaviour at one time or another, but this rhetoric of his becomes harmful to others and the site as a whole when he deliberately misleads and condemns one of curezones number one healing messages - get your iodine.
cora is in the hospital right now. i hope she is strong enough to ignore his hateful words and work on getting well.
i thank god for my partnerS on VWT. together we have changed many lives for the better.
If you will pull up the picture of the 16 inch Broccoli and see the man holding it, he is PieWilliams!
Bluebunny is my wifes Handle!
Sorry you are taking you foot in your mouth so Hard!
Edit: BlueBunny just asked me Why I was Laughing so Hard and I had to tell her about your Sillyness in thinking you were going to be my Policewoman again!
And to think How Stupid I would have been to Un-Ban you the last time you cryed about being Banned!
It is Fun to be a Fruit Inspector and be Right about Rotten Fruit!
Bluebunny is your wife? Her writing is soooo similar to yours, with inappropriate capitalization and weird terminology. And it sounds as though she doesn't even know you, much less share your life...
Why are you getting so bent out of shape anyway? Merely suspicions on my part:)
I do not know were to start, exactly, but I want to first thank-you for this Great forum and all that you are doing to help many people you do not even know about. I have followed your ideas for a long time, but never posted before, but finally decided I needed to share some of the Improvements I and many others have been getting from following some of your simple ideas. I have witnessed some of the infighting which goes on in curezone and do not like it.
So, I decided it was time to put in my two cents worth, by sharing some of my Positive Results I and many others I have shared with, have gained from your Free ideas.
I was reminded recently how much your ideas have helped me and my family when my parents became sick and I had to go and take care of my parents for several months. My husband and children were kind enough to let me spend time trying to help my parents thru some Health problems. During this time I met some of my childhood friends who I had grown up with, and was shocked that "ALL" of them had arthritis and "ALL" kinds of aches and Pains and Diabetes and one of my girlfriends had just had a joint replacement, because it had worn out and the list goes on.
I had much time to consider how I and my Family had been doing and the foods we had choosen to eat and make changes in our eating habits and now I could really see the difference it was making. I just have gotten back home to a computer again, for my parents did not have one.
I have been following your ideas about eating and use the Alkalizing drink and Epsom Salt and kelp and lime water and other ideas since you first started sharing and my family and I have not had all the problems that others have.
I have lost weight , I can sleep better at nite, my children are calmer and not Hyper like many children and my husband is nicer to me! And as long as I remember to take my extra Lime water and kelp with the Alkalizing drink then I am nicer, also.
I cannot say enough good things about how much your ideas have helped us.
When I went to take care of my parents, my baby sister, she weighs about 3 times as much as me(Fat) I would say by a lot, and we are about the same height, and she has Diabetes and aches and pains and all kinds of other problems and her kids are Fat, while mine are not fat.
Since we have followed your advice my family has not had allergies like all of our friends have and I have tried sharing these ideas with many others, but many times people do not want to get better I have found and have learned it is just better to let them suffer, if they do not want to listen.
My mother could not walk, because her feet were swollen up so much, but was willing to let me help her soak her feet in the foot soak you suggested and it took the swelling out of her feet and she then was able to walk again !
And I would have to say that she was not as cranky after her feet became better, also!
I guess it has been a wake up call for me after comming back from being gone for several months trying to help my parents, after seeing what so many others who I had not seen for several years, as how Bad of health most of them were in.
My family has tried to eat healthy for the most part, but when I came across your ideas, they just made good common sense , as I used to go visit my grandfather in the country when I was little and they lived a simple life close to nature, so these ideas were not that different from what my grandparents did. And I was lucky to end up living in the country, but my sister took up city life when we each married.
I have shared the info you so kindly have been sharing for Free, with many other people and a few have listened and themself have then gotten Great Results and I have many other Testimonials to share if I can take the time to do so?
Don't stop sharing, as many people are being helped!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope my two cents worth will help others try your simple health ideas.
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