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  • Strange and bizarre detox/die off effects? by  powertool4  4 year  9,633  Candida Support / Headaches
    Can someone please tell me what's going on with my body? About 2 weeks I changed my diet to an anticandida diet and starting taking Jarrow probiotics (just once a day. Its only 3.4 billion) And I started getting very minor flu like symptoms, like feeling cold/chills, aches, etc. and everytime that would happen I would pop a few activated charcoal pills to suck up the toxin.

    But i went with a naturopathic doctor last week and she said that's good, but charcoal is only good if you have consistent bowel movements which I didnt at the time so i stopped it.

    I've been on the diet but restarted the probiotics after 4 days break, and also started to take Ultraclear Sustain which has Lglutamine and some other amino acids she prescribed me for leaky gut. I also took citamin C, fishoi, magniuesm, and coconut oil and for some reason my body is acting up.

    I have canker sores and these tiny little bumps that are about to turn into the mouth ulcers, my tongue is sore and somewhat swollen with little bit of white coating, and i woke up with a crazy migraine on the left side of my head and had chills and flu like symptoms with really cold extremities.

    I haven't changed anything other than the Ultraclear sustain and taking 2 doses of Jarrow instead of one. And eating a large amount of kobe beef last night.

    Are these symptoms of detox and die off where my body is killing the candida? It is absolutely terrible, the migraine was killing me. And i didn't want to have to, but I took an advil with milk (bad no no with candida) and just went to sleep because i couldn't take it.

    Any thoughts?

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    • Re: Strange and bizarre detox/die off effects? by  socalgrl  4 year  9,279
      It sounds like die-off. Have you done any enemas? When I first began the candida diet I also stopped drinking coffee and started anti fungals. To avoid the bad headaches that accompany both I started daily coffee enemas. I got a lot of candida out and have not had a headache for almost 3 months, first time in 35 yrs. I also do Epsom Salt baths and Himalayan salt baths as well as sunbathing to sweat out the toxins. But the best relief was from the CE.

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      • Re: Strange and bizarre detox/die off effects? by  livingwaters  4 year  9,385
        not really a fan of enemas

        I found that working on fixing up my liver solved my bowel problems (slow poops or constipation). The thing that worked best was MMS. That's really does a number on candida and anything else in there that shouldn't be. Also I use a number of bitters. Poke root tincture, Bardock root tincture, Devils Claw tincture and Cramp Bark tincture in conjunction with olive leaf extract. This seems to get the liver gurgling nicely and my bile moving. Another thing you can try is grapefruit and green apples. The malic acid in the apples helps soften stones that get in the bile ducts blocking them, the grapefruit kinda makes the liver convulse which squeezes anything in the bile ducts through.

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        • Re: Strange and bizarre detox/die off effects? by  powertool4  4 year  9,222
          Yeah actually i am really interested in the coffee enema but one concern of mine is that i have trouble sleeping due to neurological symptoms (maybe from the candida or lack of minerals, im not sure. getting a whole blood work done) so i wasn't sure if rectally administered coffee would still be a stimulant. Is it going to keep me up?

          the other thing i should mention is that i am really dehydrated. usually i have to drink tons of water and then i go pee a lot but then in a little bit i will get thirsty again. the night time is the worst because i hate getting up to go pee. I have to go pee and at the same time during my sleep, i am PARCHED. and this morning when i had the terrible die off symptoms, i was so dehydrated i got up with a headache and went to drink 4 cups of water and still was thirsty. i have heard your adrenals can be affected from various stresses and if that happens, i should drink some Sea Salt with my water? not really sure what kind of salt.. mortons or something?

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          • Re: Strange and bizarre detox/die off effects? by  socalgrl  4 year  9,225
            If you perform the CE in the morning after your first bm it shouldn't be a problem. It actually makes me calmer. Some people say they get jittery but I think they are using too much coffee and too much in the enema at one time. I would check out the info on enemas and you can get the recipe and how to perform them http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/enema/
            Performing a coffee enema is not the same as drinking coffee and it actually is for cleansing the liver, not the bowel but I did get a lot of candida out from them and some stones as well. It is almost like doing a Liver Flush but gentler on the system.

            I was dx'd with adrenal fatigue 4 yrs ago. It got better then got worse with new stress but not as bad as the first time. I have been using Sea Salt . Don't get the refined salt from the grocery store. Use either Redmond's Real salt or Himalayan Pink salt which you can find at the health food store. If you are concerned about being dehydrated this book will help "Your Body's Many Cries for Water" by Dr. Batmanghelidj. He also has a website http://www.watercure.com/
            Sip a little water throughout the day to rehydrate.

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          • Re: Strange and bizarre detox/die off effects? by  livingwaters  4 year  9,324
            I actually fixed my adrenal fatigue using Urine Therapy and adaptogens (ginsengs of various types). Also a thyroid support tool but I think the thing that made the biggest difference was the UT. The effects of that combined with MMS is phenomenal. I was seeing my natropath every 3-4 months and she's just backed me up to every 6 months now because she said I am so good at self medicating. The current scriipt she has me on is actually all of my own medications (stuff I have found out without her to the most part). Another thing I am doing is using the MMS combined with MSM (would use DMSO but it's hard to get in Australia) for a tooth infection that is deep down (dentist wants to root canal me). I have been doing to for about 6 weeks now and I had an eruption a few days ago from the gum near the infected tooth. A bunch of puss and blood came out, it really swelled up so I pushed on the swelling. So I am pretty sure that is healing too.

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    • Re: Strange and bizarre detox/die off effects? by  aprilrain  4 year  9,220
      I've had very similar die off symptoms just like you.

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    • Re: Strange and bizarre detox/die off effects? by  jimnycricket  3 year  9,070
      HI There,

      I am not sure if this will help you but I have had exactly the same issues. I had CFS last year and drastically changed my diet (no sugar/dairy wheat/ processed foods at all). I had very bad die off effects for about 1.5 months. I felt tired and heavy all the time. I then felt so much better and gave in a little on the diet.
      After another couple of months my symptoms of bloating and acne came back and I decided I needed to go back to square one and do the diet again. This time I have been using supplements too such as spirulina, colostrum, vit c, magnesium, calcium, selenium and anti fungal such as pau'darco, coconut oil, and daily doses of raw garlic and ginger. I have had exactly the same issue with my mouth. Painful white spots on my tongue and ulcers. It has been quite bad for a week or so now. I can only think that this is die off as I am eating a really pure diet. I think my body is still getting rid of many toxins from bad diet before and candida.

      I am going to keep going - Sometimes my faith crumbles a little in the process but I am holding onto the fact that when it is all and finally over I will be super detoxed and healthy.

      I think it is very important to stick to the ridged diet though otherwise there is no way you can know if it is die off or not.


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