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  • Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Achilles84  4 year  6,262  Ask CureZone / Hyperthyro / Symptoms / 4
    Hi there,

    just a question I could need your help with.

    Are Thyroid Disorders like Hyperthyroidism and Hypothyroidism reversible??

    For example can they be correctet completly without surgery?

    thx for your help

    best wishes

    Patrick

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    • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Hveragerthi  4 year  6,311
      Yes, you just need to find what the base cause is so it can be addressed. There are many causes of hypothyroidism and taking Iodine will not address all causes.

      And there can be several reasons for hyperthyroidism, so again the reason needs to be found and addressed.

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      • Not only is iodine not a cure-all for thyroid disorders, by  elin  3 year  5,542
        ... in some portion of the population, it will cause Graves disease. And as everyone who has Graves knows, this is a very serious illness that will take quite a toll on your body, not something you can just shrug off, no matter how it goes or even whether you eventually heal from it.

        I know this because my ingestion of iodine, in my attempt to normalize my sluggish thyroid, gave me Graves disease. This is a well-documented effect that has been demonstrated in iodine-poor communities that suddenly received supplementation in the food -- about 3-5% of the populace rapidly develop hyperthyroidism as a result. That low percentage means that you may very well be able to take Iodine without developing this lasting and difficult disease, but some others will not.

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    • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Hidden Username  4 year  6,081
      If they told you you have a goiter or something and need something removed..don't do it. It will mess you up way more than you know. Just look into Iodine and fixing it on it's own.


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      • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Hveragerthi  4 year  6,089

         If they told you you have a goiter or something and need something removed..don't do it. It will mess you up way more than you know. Just look into Iodine and fixing it on it's own.

        Hypothyroidism has a number of causes including hypothalamic, pituitary or adrenal dysfunction, chlorine, fluorine or bromine exposure, hormone issues, poor T4 to T3 conversion, high rT3, autoimmunity, etc. Iodine will not address all forms of hypothyroidism.

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    • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  LuellaMay  4 year  6,201

      They are most definitely reversible.  I was hypothyroid for 20 years.  The medication given me which which was synthroid, never did the job.  I always felt some type of fatigue.  Well, I met the folks at the Iodine Forum and because of them, I am happy to say that I am no longer hypothyroid and...........  I do not rely on any medications.  After just a short time of following their instructions and supplementing with Iodine, I was fine.  To this day I have energy and feel so much better than I had for 20 years under a doctor's care.  Go to the Iodine Forum and get their advice.

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    • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  rkwalton  4 year  5,930
      That's what some research seems to indicate. I have Graves' Disease. I was living in South Korea when I was diagnosed. There they don't immediately prescribe radiation or surgery. Instead, I took an oral medication to slow my thyroid down. After a few months of that, we started block and replace therapy. That is I took medication to completely block the production of hormones by my thyroid and then took Synthroid. The best way I can explain it is the treatment literally gives the over-active thyroid a break. This approach seems to be based on a theory that was researched in Japan. I like that the first step is to try to preserve the thyroid and only if that doesn't work is radiation or surgery considered.

      For me the party is over. I moved back to the USA, working for myself (starting off, so building up clients slowly) and doing contract work. Therefore, I'm uninsured. However, I feel much better and once I'm back in the system, I'll go for blood work to confirm what's going on with my thyroid now. But I don't have any of the symptoms that I had when I was diagnosed.

      Also, my doctor when I was abroad was very conservative. Instead of just a year of block and replace, I was on oral medication for around three and a half years, and using the block and replace treatment for it for around two or so years. I'm hoping that was more than enough time to give my thyroid a rest. It feels like it, but there is no way to confirm that without blood tests. (And people say nothing is wrong with our health system...there most certainly is A LOT wrong with it.)

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      • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  powertool4  4 year  5,828
        I am curious though, what CAUSES hypothyroidism or adrenal fatigue? I mean if you are overall a normally functioning individual and have been since birth.. the actual thyroid gland or adrenal gland doesn't just go berserk and start producing massive/less hormones. there has to be some kind of an external factor that is affecting it, or internal malfunction. Heavy metal exposure, stress or parasites are all i can think of.. are there any other reasons or causes?

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        • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Iolite  4 year  5,832
          You can have an autoimmune disease that attacks the thyroid called hashimotos. You can be Iodine deficient and contaminated with halides like fluoride and bromide which take up the iodine receptors in the body. You can have nodules which can develop into thyroid cancer and develop hypothyroidism because of goiters or neck injuries like whiplash. Adrenal fatigue develops when thyroid disorders go untreated and the adrenals try to pick up the slack left by a poorly functioning thyroid.

          For me, I think it is partially inherited.. my mother had reduced thyroid function and therefore it affected mine in utero. She was recently diagnosed hypothyroid with hashimotos within the last year (I'm 48). Then, I've had 3 accidents where I was rear-ended. One where I was slammed into by a drunk driver going 35-40 mph while my care was stopped because of the driver in front of me wanted to turn left. Add to that, halides like fluoride and bromide and I'm hypo. But, for as long as I can remember, I've had problems with cold extremities. In 1994, I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia because my TSH was "normal". When the range was lowered in 2003, I was finally diagnosed hypothyroid.

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          • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  powertool4  4 year  5,727
            interesting. You should that neck injuries can affect thyroid function? how is that?

            Also, i have heard that taking Iodine when you have adrenal fatigue will just fatigue the adrenals even more. I know the adrenals and thyroid are a 2 way street so im not sure how that works.

            Also, i have heard that kelp powder, seaweed are great sources of iodine and have been told to eat tons of it so i might try this.

            And for detox, i have heard that cilantro+chlorella and ALA is great. Any thoughts of this?

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            • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Iolite  4 year  5,797
              The thyroid is up against the neck, so trauma to the neck can affect the thyroid. I have adrenal fatigue and I take iodine. I have mild AF, though (high cortisol). If you have severe AF, you'd definately need to support the adrenals before taking anything for the thyroid. Kelp is known to be contaminated with arsenic. If you're going that route, make sure that it is contaminate free.

              Celantro and chorella can help detox mercury. Iodine will displace and chelate mercury, arsenic, fluoride and bromide. You need to support the liver to help it detox that stuff out. ALA, milk thistle and NAC are helpful in this regard. I take NAC to support my liver and I've stopped getting the bromide acne. When I forget to take it, I get those awful painful red breakouts.

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              • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  powertool4  4 year  5,701
                SIGH okay thanks for the tip. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired but I guess theres not much I can do. I will try the chelation and see if it helps. Currently im taking so many supplements I cant even track it all.. royal jelly, vitamin C, chinese herbs, adrenal support, multivitamin, calmag, magnesium, liver cleanse, and now heavy metal detox! :)

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                • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Iolite  4 year  6,335
                  I hear ya...I currently have 4 large pill towers full of all the supplements that we take. Some days, just the thought of all those pills makes me want to hurl.

                  I have some sites for you:

                  http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com
                  -- really informative!
                  http://www.iodine4health.com
                  -- info on iodine
                  http://www.optimox.com
                  -- info on iodoral ( Iodine supp)
                  http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine
                  -- information on iodine supplementation and detox symptoms and the salt loading protocol to move the bromide out via kidneys

                  Finally... check out the iodine boards on curezone, the iodine group on yahoo and Janie's STTM thyroid group NaturalThyroidHormone and adrenal group - NaturalThryoidHormoneADRENALS on yahoo. The folks on Janie's site and the adrenal site on yahoo are very supportive and helpful and will help you interpret your labs and help you find a good doctor if needed.

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                  • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  powertool4  4 year  5,617
                    Thanks Iolite! I am signing up on the yahoo group, thanks for the links.

                    I am curious, do you know if muscular/neurological weakness can be caused or related to hormonal imbalances? I have twitches and spasms (randomly, but daily) and my legs are weak, my fingers tremble, my face muscles tremble when winking, etc.
                    And every night i wake up startled and hearting beating out of my chest couple times throughout the night which the worst! Im worried i have viral infection of the heart or something crazy like that.

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                    • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Iolite  4 year  5,753
                      It's all probably adrenal related. My mom had the tremors. Once she started supporting the adrenals, the tremors have pretty much gone away. The weakness is also adrenals. Last winter, we had a rare snow day here in Richmond, VA and I was out shoveling the driveway and cars with the hubs. I had to stop and take frequent breaks because I was getting the shakes and my heart was pounding.

                      The pounding heart and startle response is adrenals too. I found hawthorn berries and magnesium very helpful for the pounding heart.

                      Get a 24 hr cortisol saliva test kit so you will know the extent of your adrenal fatigue. It sounds like you're low cortisol, but you could be a combo of low and high. When the adrenals start to fail, you get high cortisol. As the AF continues, you get a combo of low and high and finally low and it gets worse from there if something isn't done about it.

                      You definitely need to know what stage of AF you are in. The treatment for high cortisol is different from low cortisol. If you have severe AF, then you'll most probably need rx cortef for a while until you can build up those adrenals. It can be done, there are a lot of members on the NTHAdrenal yahoo group who had severe AF to the point of panic attacks and being convinced that they were never going to get well. They're all well on their way to recovering.



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                      • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  powertool4  4 year  5,608
                        Thanks. I am curious, is it possible I have addison's? I honestly feel like at any sign of stress.. like a minor tiff with my gf gets me sooo nervous and anxious and my heart goes out of control and i feel like i can't deal with it. I feel like a ticking time bomb in the sense that if i get into a car accident or something like that my body literally will crash and burn. Do 24hour cortisol tests check for addison's too?

                        Have you ever tried adrenal cortex on its own once a day? I am thinking about trying it since its not completely glandular with the adrenaline in it, and also it doesn't have any steroids for the time being.

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                        • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Iolite  4 year  5,568
                          Yes, the 24hr saliva test will test for addisons too. It will give you your cortisol levels for 4 times during a 24 hr day with the normal ranges. Healthy adrenal glands will give a reading at the top of the range in the first morning reading and then slope gradually down to the bottom of the range in the last reading of the evening (10-midnight). The more outside of the range indicates varying degrees of AF. The lab sheet will also explain it briefly with a chart of normal adrenal function range (two lines corresponding with the low and high normal ranges of each time) with your results beside it. If it is WAAAYYY outside the low normal range then you NEED cortisol treatment. If it is WAAAAYYY outside the high normal range then you NEED to lower your cortisol.

                          When I was at my worst, I was literally loosing my temper continually. My daughter was getting screamed at all the time. My heart would pound afterwards.

                          I did try isocort before I tested. It was the wrong thing for me and made my high cortisol worse. If you do try isocort, you will probably need more than one a day. Three to four pellets is not unusual. Up to eight a day isn't either. Licorice extract will help too.

                          Please get your cortisol levels tested. The sooner you know how bad your AF is, the sooner you can start treating it. If you post your results with the ranges, I can get a better idea of where your AF is.

                          High blood pressure generally indicates high cortisol, but not always....My mother has HBP and she has a combination of low and high cortisol. I have normal BP and I have high cortisol. Low blood pressure generally indicates low cortisol.

                          You sound like your low cortisol with the tremors, weakness, racing heart, etc. but as I stated in an earlier post, you might have some high periods too. You won't know until you get tested.

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                          • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  powertool4  4 year  5,448
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                          • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  powertool4  4 year  5,522
                            I am going to order the test from canaryclub. I am curious though I have to decide whether or not to get the $99 4X cortisol or the $225 one with the other stuff like DHEA, testosterone, and thyroid panel (including free t3, t4, tsh, and antibodies). Do you know by any chance how accurate the blood spot test is for the thyroid panel? I do not want to throw away at something and then have an endo order another blood test because "they are highly inaccurate". I will probably order today and hopefully it will come soon. I just hope there's no delay like Genova Labs because a couple weeks time is a long time for the body to change I think

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                            • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  Iolite  4 year  5,590
                              I don't know about the blood spot for the thyroid panel. I think there is one that has the 4 cortisol plus dhea, progesterone, estrogen and testosterone for $159.

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                              • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  powertool4  4 year  5,485
                                Just sent it in and should hear back with the results of my cortisol test on monday!

                                I have BP and sometimes I think he reason why i wak up startled every 2 hours when i sleep is because my BP drops too low. And im almost certain im low cortisol.

                                Have you ever tried any herbs for cortisol adjustment? I want to try something that will help with possible low cortisol and the only thing that came up was licorice but it seems everyone is deathly araid to use it because of the potassium issue.

                                I just took a herbal supplement called "Supercritical stress advantage" by new chapter which has rhodiola, american and siberian ginseng, schizandra, tumeric, ginger, curcuma, galanga and astralugus. It helped me with the ability to deal with stress a little bit but my head feels so lightheaded and i just feel really out of it.

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      • Re: Are Thyroid Disorders reversible?? by  elin  3 year  5,227
        My understanding is that this conservative approach is the norm in Europe as well. Only in the US do we blast away the organ with a nuclear pill before even attempting much safer and more conservative ATDs. In fact, on Graves board I have listened to ladies whose endos told them melodramatically, "YOU WILL DIE if you don't nuke your thyroid immediately!" Underneath all this is the perception, in the US, that the radiation treatment is simply cheaper and therefore preferable.

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