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  • another hep c victim on the road to recovery   R by  boatman  3 year  3,336  Hepatitis C / Herbal For / Rife
    in november,got a call from Harris said he was picking up an old acquaintence at the hospital.

    he had been rushed there 9 days before for the burst blood vessels in his throat,a common result of hep c.

    i had told harris years before about the 12 herb mixture success rate(virtually 100%). so he brought him by.so weak about to pass out.

    with his fear of vomiting and aggrevating his throat coterized blood vessels,started him off slow on the herbs.

    got him on l-citrilline to reduce ammonia in blood and let him sleep and think.

    yesterday his liver enzymes were one in normal range, one elevated 50%.

    both had been about 140.

    both will return to normal,then we will put him on the rife light.and finish it off.

    out of the four people we have personally cured (there are hundreds stabilized by the herb mix) only one required a personal screening for rife numbers.the other 3 were cured with the numbers out of the resonant light tech. book that came with my rife light....confirmed by blood tests...2 of these guys went back to drinking a little(maybe more than a little) too much beer.....that was years ago with no effect....believe me on this,if you drink alcohol and have hep c you will soon have elevated liver enzymes.

    see:

    http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1018066





    i now believe any other treatment is wasting time.

    you believe what you want.i will not argue about this.

    play or pass.



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    • Re: another hep c victim on the road to recovery by  Tizona  3 year  2,570
      well then I have two obvious questions.

      Specifically what rife frequencies are you using?

      what 12 herbs are you using?

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      • Re: another hep c victim on the road to recovery by  boatman  3 year  2,624
        call 321-757-7522 talk to celia at the herb corner she will tell you formula.or get "herbs for hepatitis c" by stephen buhner

        there are 12 in equal porportions.

        resonant light tech. in canada uses 23 in their hep c program,most with spreads on either side of a number and uses their herpes program about 35 numbers w/spreads on most.google em' call or email them they will send them to you.

        contact me directly if u have trouble there maybe i can copy them and mail em' to you.


        its alot of typing on my one finger method,i have no way of knowing how serious u are for hours of work.

        get the herbs from them (cheap) or whoever.

        do them til your enzymes are normal.

        excuse my exhaustion but i am weary from leading people thru all this and then they don't follow thru.

        just had a friend die of Breast Cancer who ignored all my answers to her questions.

        my freakin best friends daughter for christ's sake



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    • Re: another hep c victim on the road to recovery by  lagringa1  3 year  2,382
      Dear Boatman,

      I have been on the mixture from the Herb Store for 3 years and the only thing that it has done for me is to give me the much needed energy to get out of bed and go to work.

      I have become a vegetarian and only drink alkaline water, but I have progressed to cirrhosis and now have to rethink the interferon treatment. So the mixture won't save or even stabilize everyone. I wish that it would. But it is worth the $22 a pound to feel better and be able to function.

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      • Re: another hep c victim on the road to recovery by  boatman  3 year  2,308
        thank you for the info.

        i am sorry about your situation.

        you are the first person this has happened to that wasn't doing alcohol or drugs(pharmas included)

        as i remember you are in korea and love cats.

        i wish you had told me about this sooner.everyone gets better in 2 months.hundreds of them.

        i am reseaching your situation right now.

        please tell me anything you can.

        scott

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      • Re: another hep c victim on the road to recovery by  boatman  3 year  2,293
        i just tallked to celia...you are the second person in hundreds that have not totally responded.

        the other person had to really look at their situation.

        they had a jaw bone cavitation(infection that doesn't show on x-rays) on their liver meridian tooth.

        we are missing something here....some toxin....some situation.

        PLEASE respond and tell me everything you can about where you live, your water your mouth, your veggies.


        please respond.

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        • My particular situation by  lagringa1  3 year  2,326
          Dear Boatman,
          I am surprised that you remember me and that you are giving me your time to investigate my problem.

          1. As stated I have been taking Cecelia's Hep C mixture each day. I take a scoop (about 1/4 cup)in water every night before I go to bed. Maybe I should take more???
          2. I have tried MMS, but got sick when I reached 12 drops and couldn't maintain it.
          3. I had 3 silver fillings taken out of my mouth in November, since I have oral lichen planus and I thought that that might help.
          4. I am taking Sunrider live enzyme foods now, since February. Go to Sunrider.com and have a look at: Nuplus, Quinary, Alpha 20, Dandelion, and Assimilaid. I will email you the PDF with the ingredients and benefits. I take all of these 3 times a day before a meal.
          5. I have invested big bucks in the Sunrider products along with a water ionizing machine (Enagic is the company) and drink only alkaline water and rinse my mouth with the strong acid water (which heals wounds and has helped my oral lichen planus somewhat).
          6. I don't drink or do any drugs or pharmaceuticals. For pain relief from an extended gall bladder I might take white willow bark, also a Sunrider product.
          7. The only bad habit I have, which I am trying to shake, is smoking cigarettes. I smoke around 4 a day.
          8. I had a root canal a few years ago which sometimes gets infected. I have a crown on it. I haven't been having any problem with it since I started the Sunrider products.
          9. My cirrhosis is in the beginning stages.
          10. I have an extended gall bladder.
          11. My spleen is slightly enlarged.

          I will try to think of more but that is my situation in a rather elongated nut shell.

          Comments,suggestions, questions?

          Thank you so much for your time. I am back in the States on Arizona medicaid and feel fine, despite the oral lichen planus and hep c. People don't belive that I'm sick. However I am finally going to do the interferon/ribavirin as a last resort, beginning July 1st because it will be free and if I don't and get worse, I will always wonder if it would have worked.

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          • Re: My particular situation by  boatman  3 year  2,299
            a root canal on the wrong tooth could very well be THE reason.

            was this done before or after your liver problem.

            i need to know EXACTLY which tooth.up or down, count back from middle front.

            you would not believe the root canal problems i personally have had.....started getting bronchitis....got more n more episodes.......up to 28 wks sick in one year.......root canal on lung meridian tooth.....jawbone infection under neath all dentists said wasn't there.....electro-homeopath lady in 30 seconds said what happened there-put her finger on that spot on cheek.....had it cleaned out(hard to find person to do it but did)......problem GONE......was going to kill me i tell you.

            20 million $ year footbal player in town here had knee operated on...infection afterword....finally went to somone othr n DR. they said clen out wisdom tooth removal site(elbow and knee meridian)....did it ....BANG infection gone.


            there is dentist in mexico close to san diego border clean this out cheap, i know of, we see.

            there is answer here somewhere.

            if u end up going down interferon road it will help to know your hep c strain( there are 6-8).......success here btween 12%-45% depending on strain.

            THAT IS LAST RESORT!

            scott

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          • Re: My particular situation by  boatman  3 year  2,283
            i would increase it to 1/2 cup a day the 12 herb mix(most a tablespoon enough!)

            i got money says that root canaled tooth is on liver-internal organ meridian!!!!!!! i guarrentee u have cavitation in jawbone, esp. with infection coming there reoccuring.

            There is always an answer!!!!

            that sunrider stuff looks good, i'm sure it has helped tho i think there is something else going on here like that tooth.

            have sent your particulars to celia.we will work on this til we solve it.

            why should you be the only one in HUNDREDS that isn't stabilized back to fine?????

            there is a reason...... root canal i bet!!!!

            what tooth is it, count back from middle.

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          • teeth meridian map by  boatman  3 year  2,315
            http://www.drwolfe.com/energy_medicine/tooth_chart/teeth_chart.html


            but i would get it removed and cleaned out by the RIGHT dental person anyway, even if its not the right tooth.its still probly the reason!!!!

            but if it is or anywhere NEAR the liver meridian tooth, its the smoking gun.

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            • Root canal problem and disease by  lagringa1  3 year  2,507
              If I count the UPPER RIGHT (my right) MIDDLE T00TH as tooth #1 then it is TOOTH #6.
              I looked at the tooth map thatyou sent which was confusing so I checked the following tooth chart:
              http://www.dentalgentlecare.com/tooth_chart.htm

              It would therefore be tooth #3. I don't know if this chart includes wisdom teeth but I do have all of mine in.
              Does this help?
              I tried to reply to your email but it bounced. Could you email me the doc in Mexico who cleans the tooth out? I speak Spanish and my sister lives in LA so it would be a no-brainer trip to go there to have it done. I was going to have it done in November when I had all of the silver taken out. However my gums were too infected from the oral lichen planus. They still are.
              By the way I have read about the root canal damage to your body and am aware that this could be a BIG problem. That is why I mentioned it to you when you told me to tell all.
              Thanks for picking up on that, Boatman!
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              • Dr. benjamin arichega in tijuana by  boatman  3 year  2,446
                google him,call him, he is searchable here on curezone.he was Hulda Clark s dental man.

                if my info is old,and he is gone we'll find someone else.

                your bad tooth is 2 teeth away from PRIMARY liver meridian, BUT there are secondaries and it all gets so complicated as there are all sorts of secondary variables.

                my bad tooth was 1 tooth away from lung primary meridian, but cleaning it out solved my problem and saved my life.

                ALSO your bad gums---you must start brushing your teeth ASAP 3x a day with 1 drop of 100%oil of oregano( or 8 drops of the 12% if thats all u can find. on natural best u can find(tom's or something) tooth paste.it has cured all my friends gum problems to amazement of their dentists!

                investigate oil pulling too here at CZ.if you want to go that far.


                call celia at the herb corner and go over all this w/her

                321-757-7522 i have emailed your other info to her--she might have another wrinkle on this.

                this tooth and infection under it in jawbone is overwhelming your immmune system.gum disease not helping.

                let me know what she says.....

                we must get to the bottom on this....if go to interferon(yuch) and you FAIL you will be on a liver transplant list from the damage...in your shape it will put u in BED for 1 yr. success or not.i have been thru this w/ my best friend before i knew all this.....it is not pretty....he says he will not go thru it again its so bad.

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                • Re: Dr. benjamin arichega in tijuana by  lagringa1  3 year  2,084
                  Dear Boatman,
                  So the root canal might be the thing, huh? Hey, I'll try anything at this point.
                  I had the bad root canal IN MEXICO, funny enough, a few years ago, but after the Hep C showed up (about 6 months after). So I am wondering exactly what the dentist there will do to clean out the tooth? Is this something that I can get done from any gum dentist down there on the borders? The dentist will clean out the root and pull out the tooth, correct?
                  I have genotype 1 so I think that I would be in for a real ride with the interferon which is why I haven't done it to date. I just don't want to spend a year in bed. I watched a friend die from Hep C and it is a bad death. And the treatment is what killed her...she went through it 2 and a half times!
                  I alrady use Tom's toothpaste but haven't oil pulled because my mouth is full of blisters and it hurts to do the pulling. I can try again, though. I remember that I should use coconut or seseme oil, correct?
                  I will get some oil of oregano and call Cecelia tomorrow. Thank you so much for passing along this information to her for me! I will try to track down the dentist too.
                  You're the best! I will keep you in the loop

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                  • Re: Dr. benjamin arichega in tijuana by  boatman  3 year  2,158
                    this mouth deal of yours is definitely hampering the effect of the herbs.

                    thin down oil of oregano with coconut oil til you can stand it.....but it must lite you up some....more the better but don't get yourself in pain bad.

                    a biologic dentist would remove the tooth and clean out the jawbone infection by grinding into the jawbone til he gets RED blood. regular dentists will tell you this is rediculous. the admission of this problem by the ADA would negate most of their procedures.

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                • Re: Dr. benjamin arichega in tijuana by  lagringa1  3 year  2,212
                  Here is the doctor's information for other's who need dental work in Tijuana done:
                  http://livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/dr-clarks-clinic-mexico/

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                  • Re: Dr. benjamin arichega in tijuana by  boatman  3 year  2,424
                    i would consider doing tony's Oleander soup,here on curezone, the immune response is great.and utopia silver.

                    we have regularly returned liver numbers to normal with the herbs only.but yours is tough with this tooth.

                    i would have that claened up very quickly, i am sure this is the stumbling block.

                    click on your inbox at top of the page i have sent you a message.

                    talk to celia about the gum problem, she might have a comment.oil of oregano has solved gum prblems in everyone i know.

                    she will not understand oleander soup however.herbalists don't.tho she has one of the most open minds of anyone i know.....i need to talk to her about it more....tony has figured out an important thing here.

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      • Re: another hep c victim on the road to recovery by  KrazyKat  3 year  2,101
        The same thing happened to me, lagringa. I tried everything alternative and spent buckets of money and ended up doing the combo. Wish I hadn't done all the alternatives as long as I did. My cirrhosis got a lot worse in that time. I tried so hard. I haven't seen anyone posting that they have been cured with anything else. If they were, my guess is they weren't chronic. You'd see people twittering all over the internet if it were true.

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        • Giving it one more shot by  lagringa1  3 year  2,446
          I'm kind of getting the feeling that once someone is cured of something on this site,they just sort of fade away and radiate and are never heard from again. You don't see many posts of people being cured of anything on this site, really. It should be called the Wannabe Cured Zone.

          However, in my case, I am going to spend the time and money on the rife stuff and if that doesn't work then that will be it for me...take the interferon and watch my air fall out and my face blow up like a toad.

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    • limits of herbal hep c treatment by  boatman  32 mon  2,112
      the people that have not responded to the 12 herb combo have one of three things:

      1) alcohol consumption

      2) ibuprofen or acetaminophen(tylenol or motrin,others) use

      3) other legal(pharmaceuticals or not drug use----hard on the liver

      4) hidden infections in the mouth...this is the hardest to determine, but if u don't respond to the 12 herb combo in 6 wks.......almost invariably the reason.

      a good EAV homeopathist can pinpoint this and a biologic dentist can fix this problem

      some hep c patients even have the problem under or near the 3rd tooth from centerline---THE LIVER tooth.....probably the cause of their hep c susceptibility in the first place!

      possible causes: root canals or pulled teeth w/out the ligament pulled---ligament not usually pulled by most dentists.

      some people can tolerate root canaled teeth and the resulting germ conduit.....do not roll those dice....and if you have and are now sick in some ongoing way.....get these resolved or at least checked out.

      one almost killed me.

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