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  • Perestroika Deception of 381 by  ChaztheMeatHead  3 year  1,127     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE  Conspiracy Theories
    • Re: Perestroika Deception2 by  #108005  3 year  1,105     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
    • Re: Perestroika Deception23 by  Hidden Username  3 year  1,021
      Wrong question, that's what it is. Russians suffered the most as result of the revolution done on the money of WallStreet" (see Antony Sutton "WallStreet and the bolshevik revolution"). They never ever achieved communism or even socialism. Canada, for example is far more socialist country than, Russia is today ( btw, watch the Lenin's head appear in the reportages from the olympics). It's installed in close proximity to the speed-skating ring, so it is sure to be on the television screens. (google should already have photographs).

      Russia, since perestrojka, has deteriorated deeply to my big regret and concern. Population became very poor and disoriented as the old stereotypes got destroyed and the new one did not see the natural adoption. People drink far more than in other nations. Man's life expectancy is, at really low, 60 years or so due to drinking and smoking. The birth rate is low and population was declining sharply until recently, where as now it's just levelling off.

      Most of the problems that came to Russia were brought by the reforms pushed through western advisers. The reforms were structured to destroy Russia – not help that country. One of the first thing they did was to allow currency float and hiked up the bank percent to a staggering and unimaginable number. High inflation and high percent on borrowing wiped out the industry in a few month.

      This was not a mistake – that was a plan and it worked. Until recently, until Putin was elected. How Medvedev will do we shall see.

      The USA is now put though a similar trouble. It's being used as a military machine and human resource for that military machine. The goal – same as what was set for Russia as it was being made into a communist country – world domination through world bolshevik revolution. Same – as WallStreet re-built germany of Hitler for: World domination.

      This time 'they' (who they are read in Antony Suttons' books, by the way they are free on the internet) have US in the grabs. Massively in debt: but
      - strong military
      - human resources that are being put out of jobs.

      The only way, and I repeat, the ONLY WAY, that the US can re-pay the debt is by conquering the resources of other countries. (resources that the US has are already in 'their' hands)

      So, basically, you are seeing US put into massive debt so that it can be 'forced to go to war'

      Russia, Germany and now US are used for the same old goal – world domination. It may work partially, we are seeing afganistan and iraq subdued to powers of wallstreet, but I don't think it will ever work with Russia. That is till they have enough nuclear weapons for blow back.

      That is WHY they are focusing on reducing nuclear weapons (see latest Obama / Medvedev effort to further reduce nuclear arsenal)

      It's all really really sad. Because when we ( the people ) are in the hands of one government there will be no country to run to.

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      • Lenin and Mao Idols24 by  bewnyfur  3 year  1,019
        Giant statue of Lenin and Mao the talk of Richmond
        http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Giant+statue+Lenin+talk+Richmond/2384389/story.html

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      • Re: Perestroika Deception25 by  ohfor07  3 year  1,002

        Agreed on Sutton's work. That it was based upon his research of a few tons (out of hundreds of tons) of US State Department daily transcripts makes it extremely difficult to dismiss the way your average reality phobe has been programmed to dismiss the harsh truths of hidden history. An interesting aspect of Sutton is that he maintained a conservative, academic view of his own findings. In other words, he was not one to make liberal leaps to conclusions. There is a series of old video interviews on the web. A relatively young Stanley Monteith was the interviewer. He asked Sutton what his opinion was for the "why?" of it; why did America's Wall Street fund the build up of armies that would eventualy play a large role in killing so many people TO INCLUDE American soldiers? In answering Sutton did not stray far from his position as a professor / academian. He admitted that he could only guess / assume that it was purely a business decision IE> risks V rewards. America's Wall Street wanted to prevent Russia (continental) from developing into financial opponent of Wall Street. When you consider vast amount of natural resources in that gigantic continent, this seems a reasonable assumption, which is to say, a reasonable reward against which to run the risks ... "blowback"... a la guns, tanks and other war machinery funded & built by American's tax dollars ending up as the death knell, not just to opponents of USAs armies,  but also to many actual Americans (soldiers) comprising USA's Army  in WWII.... and in Korea.... and in Viet Nam... and likely in Afghanistan / Iraq.  

        I have not read all of Sutton's works, yet, but so far I've gotten the impression that he was not a person to openly discuss the evil intentions of world businessmen any furthre than "just doing business". But, when you take from Sutton what he revealed to the world, then couple it with what some others have revealed, prehaps a Carr, or Mullins, a more thorough composite view of evil business men appears.

        A passing comment on America's Wall Street; America's Wall Street, by and large, is not controlled by actual Americans. Instead it is controlled by personages who utlimately do not care to maintain any allegiance and loyaltay to any given nation. America's Wall Street is and always has been controlled by personages, some of whom do in fact nest perennially in places in and around continental U.S.A. while others of this elite gang prefer to nest in other places around the globe, such as in and around London, and Paris, and Berlin, and Rome, and Melbourne just to name a few of their favorite hidy holes..... and of course, lets not forget their favorite neutral grounds for hatching equal-opportunity-evil .........Switzerland!   

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        • Re: Perestroika Deception26 by  Hidden Username  3 year  1,061
          I do believe that Sutton had reasons to position his work as "academic research" – that being a great protection that allowed him to continue reviewing historical documents and writing books – digests of those documents to our benefit.

          When we talk about wall street though I feel it's a stretch to call it American because it was not working to the advantage of American people. One can see the recent history for a proof of it. WallStreet is being paid happy amounts while the majority of americans loose jobs. So, I don't believe that there is anything american about wall street, and surely it would not care of dying american soldiers of WW2, Iraq, Afganistan or other countries.

          As I'd like to track back from my assertion that the only way of repaying the debt is to go to war. That's for sure how the wall street would like to have the debt repaid but that's not the only way. As the old saying goes, when creditor is owed a little money it the problem of a debtor, and when the creditor is owed big money it's the problem of the creditor. This time, with the US, I think they really got it wrong. People are waking up to the fact they've simply been abused and hopefully they'll take time to educate themselves on how that became possible and what to do so to fix it for good.

          I think we need to go ways back and review the history since the inquisition and get access to all the kept from the public eye libraries of Vatican and other secretive places, to find out what's written in the books that they collected (some burnt).


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      • Re: Perestroika Deception27 by  ChaztheMeatHead  3 year  1,008
        That was interesting too dobrolub. Yet another book to read though. Found it though. http://www.scribd.com/doc/15973252/Antony-C-Sutton-Wall-Street-and-the-Bolshevik-Revolution-vjsfhotmailfr


        You sound like you could have lived in Russia before or you've really researched it. Cause I've talked to a few Russians and they say the same thing you just did about what's happening in that country. I like how your view on what's happening behind the scenes with the world too.

        Yeah, and you're right about me asking the wrong question! :-) Maybe read the question I reposted and give me your opinion on that one. (It's probably wrong too) Oh well. :-) See ya!

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        • Re: Perestroika Deception28 by  Hidden Username  3 year  935
          Your guess is correct, I am an ethnic Russian. I lived first 24 years of my life and then taking off to Canada to the 'free' world as I believed back then. And it is relatively free in some respects, in others it's far more regulated to the advantage of corporation than Russia was. Russia is still less subdued to corporations and as all I care is well-being the fact that Monsanto's hold on the country is weak gives me hope. I wish Russia was waking up to the real face of the capitalism faster and went back to their real roots – Vedic culture of free people – sons of god.

          Before the "Peter the Great" russian calendar was at 7020th or something year on the old style. So, to understand what's really happening to the world we need to go way! back and get to the books written long–long ago. And there were books all-right as well as the calendars – so the population relatively well educated, much more educated than it gradually become after the "Peter the Great's" reforms.

          Things like Atlantis civilization, the first nuclear war that took 13–14 000 years ago and modern history are very connected and it's a shame that we don't know much about it. For example in Russia there are many references to the Three Moons of the earth. Fata, Lelya and moon. The Fata was destroyed during the nuclear war 13000 years ago and fell to the earth in pieces. Since then we have the word "Fatal"

          Where are the references to this in english books? I'd love to find some. In russian books this seems to be almost 'the topic' these days.


          The nuclear war 13 000 years ago had in fact put us back into the dark ages as much of the work done by civilization was destroyed. The ancient civilization is at the roots of things that archeologists dub "unexplained"

          Reference here : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread296059/pg1

          says life was destroyed by a comet. Nope, that was nuclear war and Fata.

          That's why people were obsessed with creating the super-weapon and that is why every 'nut' in power including Hitler and Stalin had researched the ancient culture, sent expeditions to Tibet as was the case with the Hitler or had connections with occult as is the case with Stalin or other secretive groups ScullandBones included. Knowing that such weapon existed and not having it – that's what kept them awake at night.

          Much of this knowledge is in the books stashed away. Inquisition was just about that: cleaning up the historical field for rewriting the history of the world.

          For an example I would refer to to the first Edition of the British Encyclopedia showing map by Mercator: http://www.zazzle.com/north_pole_map_by_mercator_poster-228371069444212924



          The continent that is shown in place of the north pole is the land of man's origin on earth. More to come if you are interested.


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    • Re: Perestroika Deception38 by  FromOz  3 year  920
      Gorbachev was handed the Nobel Peace Prize, and he promptly disappeared with the $750G to the Black Sea. He left Russia in worst living standards, food shortages than they've ever had before. Same for Mandela. Received cash, left the country in a pile of poo, and he keeps on dancing.

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