Not hard to see that many (not all) christians resonate with the "christian soldier" mentality. They are, after all in a soul mining battle. Some weird shit has occurred in the name of christianity throughout history. Many people have lost their lives due to the insanity of christianity. Salem comes to mind.
From your link I was drawn to this biblical quote from Genesis.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle,
and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing
that creepeth upon the earth." - (Genesis 1:26 KJV).
Some one apologetically explained that the plural reference to "gods" in Genesis was due to the holy trinity aspect of god. I have seen lots of spiritual anthropologists explain that the "gods" in Genesis were actually an alien influence. This makes much more sense to me as to explaining the demand for blood sacrifice etc. It aligns with the loosh model perfectly.
Aliens, certainly a possibility, I wonder how anyone can draw any conclusions using bible quotes though, the whole book is a mish mash of stories, repeated, changed, removed, translated, chopped and hacked, until I'm certain it bears no resemblance to any original text. Bit like a written game of chinese whispers.
I can definitely see a resurgence of dominion theology today, as in the past, it is unlikely to end well.
What I have seen is that they take commonalities from many sources, even cave drawing to support the theories. It sure resonates with me. The commonality of blood sacrifice alone is something to think about. Negative loosh. ;-)
Interesting, I know that the cave paintings of the Australian Aboriginal people have been interpreted this way.
Dominion theology has a strong foothold in America, as well as in the Islamic religious states. Both use the bible and or the quoran to justify colonisation and forced beliefs, by using political means to push their agenda.
When you look beyond the theory , to a deeper meaning of why dominion theology even exists, you come back to outside control by those at the top, and as you say IC, negative loosh.
I find it amazing that many here can see the new age social engineering in that regard but fail to see that theier own cult, a very old and established one, serves the same purpose.
Dominion theology has a strong foothold in America, as well as in the Islamic religious states. Both use the bible and or the quoran to justify colonisation and forced beliefs, by using political means to push their agenda.
Where? How? What particular part of any piece of legislation has the US congress passed recently that reflects this mentality?
Look at political/religious lobby groups. Although they don't make legislation, they put a lot of pressure on those that do.
You mean pressure on those who are in control to stop what they wish to do?
And looking at this from another perspective, what our current administration is attempting to do i.e. "to equalize people as much as possible" and "government arbitration in order to implement a liberal form of morality" is the antithesis of dominion theology or is it in line with the thinking behind infinite potential???
I may seem contentious here but I'm attempting to understand your point of view. I just don't get some people including some people who call themselves Christians.
"You mean pressure on those who are in control to stop what they wish to do?"
Both.
The whole conservative/liberal divide is a construction of those in power to keep people busy so they never see the big picture. The people on both sides of the divide are trying to impose their form of morality on the people. Religious belief systems are just another form of divisionary tactics, used to polarise people.
Divide and conquer is the aim, and its working very well indeed.
Dominion Theololgy allows people to think that they have a god given right to push their own agenda.
The whole conservative/liberal divide is a construction of those in power to keep people busy so they never see the big picture.
At this point, I will not bother to inquire how your religious views affect your political views unless you wish to explain further.
I have seen InnerCalm paraphrase the above before. I disagreed with him but I never bothered to challenge him on it. The differences between conservatism and liberalism (and even more to the left - communism) is profound. They are so profound that I cannot really understand the mind of the liberal.
If you ask me, conservatism is a large threat to all those who are in high positions of power who wish to gain power by slowly taking freedom and liberty away from the American people. Conservatism is for personal responsibility and it doesn't view the vast majority of people as victims. It sees potential in almost everyone. It doesn't see people who are entitled to other people's money and services.
I would think if you wish to establish a new world order, you would want a bunch of liberal citizens. Liberals naturally rely on government to solve their problems or at least they feel they are entitled to benefits coming from government.
Liberalism does not compute in the universe of my thinking but then again, is it supposed to? It seems to me many statists and liberals in power look at people with contempt. It is as though they believe we cannot really help ourselves.
If there really is a conspriacy from the minds of the statists, i'm going to tell you my view right here. The conspiracy could be to teach society to completely rely on the left hemispheres of their brains and to not to teach anyone how to use their right hemispheres and the power behind it.
Maybe I can cut and paste this in the political debate forum and we can continue from there if you wish.
I don't have any religious beliefs, I see all religious belief systems as limited and pointless. They do not teach self responsibility, they teach relience on god/gods and the self appointed intermediaries, pastors/priests/gurus etc. Political belief systems (the left/right division), are no different to the religious ones. I prefer to look at issues rather than follow a party line.
All these belief systems religious and political among others, provide a base for division. This division is used to fuel conflict, which in turn fuels the power of those that are in control, these entities are united in their quest for power and control, there is no division among them. This is the bigger picture.
No thanks to discussing this in the political debate forum, it will just attract those who want to beat their own drum, and do this in ways that I find irritating and childish. I certainly don't wish to engage in a name calling fest with those people, as it destroys any intelligent discussion.
I don't have any religious beliefs, I see all religious belief systems as limited and pointless.
I almost used the word "metaphysical" instead of religious. Yes, I do beat my drums on the political debate forum. I so far remain convinced liberals cannot defeat conservatism in the real world or in arenas of debate. Conservatism is a part of what made the US the greatest country in history. It started with the Constitution.
I just don't understand why more people don't abandon certain belief systems in the light of enlightening statements and evidence. I think pride gets in the way. It is crushing to lose a debate but hey, we all have lost battles and games in the past.
I think you have a point on religion. Religion can be defined as a continuous practice of certain rituals. I don't see your point that it doesn't teach self responsibility. Aren't we responsible for our failures in following what we believe to be virtuous?
What are abstract concepts of morality? Certainly we all have them. Do these concepts not stem from religious or metaphysical points of view?
"I almost used the word "metaphysical" instead of religious."
Yes I would agree with you on that one, as the term metaphysical encompasses all belief systems, not just those of established religion.
"I so far remain convinced liberals cannot defeat conservatism in the real world or in arenas of debate. Conservatism is a part of what made the US the greatest country in history. It started with the Constitution."
I won't comment on this as I am not American and have no alegiance to America. I do know that conservative governments, in my own country, come and go, are victorious or defeated, as much as any other political party. It matters little which party is in power, as they both are controlled by the same entities.
" I don't see your point that it doesn't teach self responsibility. Aren't we responsible for our failures in following what we believe to be virtuous?"
Religious or indeed any belief system that sees personal power coming from outside of the self, eg: (saved by god, forgiven by god, the devil made me do it, etc), abregates responsibility from the self.
Religious or indeed any belief system that sees personal power coming from outside of the self, eg: (saved by god, forgiven by god, the devil made me do it, etc), abregates responsibility from the self.
Saved by god abrogates self-responsibility? I never looked at it that way before but I certainly don't believe I can lead an irresponsible life with no concern of what God may think of my actions. An example would be to break all of the 10 commandments or any one of them. A born again is certainly more concious of actions because they "instantly" have a new and different concious point of view. They may revert to old behaviors and habits but have added a new inner dimension as a part of their whole. I have tried to explain it to people in person but people just don't get it or just don't want to get it unless they experience it.
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