Above all, see my below linked site re: computer monitors, BUT NOTE!! It won't be of benefit to anyone not willing to plow through all the convoluted info & links I collected to prove the extent of societal ignorance/unawareness of the issue.
Some background:
I went through it all, had all my dental Amalgams replaced at a cost of 10 grand, and was scammed plenty along the way by various authorities (high up on the totem pole - you wouldn't believe). Even tried QXCI which impressed me for good reason as I explained elsewhere on Curezone - except that its unlicensed practitioner was a fraud.
It has been utterly disillusioning because after all of it, and plenty of oral chelation (and who knows how many other "decoy" therapies such as Paragone, Chinese herbal regimens, CS, DMSO, liver detox etc.) I have come to realize that what had REALLY been causing me the worst symptoms for decades (and that includes HEAVY abnormal bleeding and fibromyalgia, fibro-fog, you name it)
I REPEAT & EMPHASIZE - MY WORST CULPRIT ALL ALONG WAS....
cumulative decades of viewing computer monitors.
Furthermore, what's most curative, is merely proper diet, specifically black cherry concentrate (excellent), mullein-mallow-combo, gels, eggs, lysine, avoiding citric/ascorbic acid. Garden of Life's Perfect Food & Primal Defense are also good products and not necessarily expensive if you ration it over a longer stretch of time. There's much more to the diet (consisting predominantly of regular normal food) but it's not a simple issue, & I won't go into detail.
Suffice, that my primary culprits were NOT mercury, and NOT candida. RATHER, COMPUTER MONITORS.
(As an aside, I find it utterly ridiculous that so many people who undergo chelation complain of side-effects, yet may not realize that the MEGADOSES of Vitamin C they take (which supposedly is supposed to support their immune system) is really what may be causing them the worst flare-ups since acids fire up the nerves to cause inflammation, stomach pain, genital inflammation, tongue sores, sore-throat/colds, headaches, acne & more. Yet they misguidedly attribute their reactions to the sulphur "decoy", rather than realizing where the blame really belongs. And that includes Kirkman's "hypoallergenic" unflavored, buffered Vitamin-C as it has caused me reactions as well. So has Citracal, which contains citric acid.)
Getting back to the issue at hand:
Computer monitors have PBDE chemicals which out-gas, causing an accumulation of chemicals in the body. Furthermore, the fluorescense is deadly - but even notwithstanding flurescense, merely viewing LIGHT for prolonged periods isn't natural! Furthermore, optometrist Dr. Yolton maintains that the larger the screen, the more one's peripheral vision kicks in, creating problems.
So you see, there isn't merely *one* issue with computer monitors, but probably a cluster of issues.
Speak of "conspiracy theories", if anything is a conspiracy, the computer poisoning issue is the KING of them all, due to the subtle way people are becoming ill from them, often without realizing the connection. After all, why should they? There are so many life stresses that can act as a decoy to the REAL ISSUE - that of Computer Monitor Illnesses.
If anyone reading this is skeptical, why not try this experiment:
I know it's difficult, but try to abstain from computer use as much as possible for, say, a 7-day stretch, then see how you feel. BUT ALSO, during that period, abstain from citric/ascorbic acid, saturated dairy fat such as pizza & milk-chocolate, concentrated starches such as potatoes (especially not potatoes w/butter), and corn starch. The worst is starches combined with saturated fats, or even lite fats combined with concentrated starch. Licorice also contains starch.
P.S. Mind you, I'm not saying that I'm not metal poisoned, because a Doctor's Data test indicated that I'm above the 95th percentile of metal toxicity, with the highest being Arsenic, Mercury & Cadmium. For all I know, mercury may have contributed to my susceptibility to PBDE/fluorescent intolerance. But this doesn't take away from the fact that I have proven to myself THROUGH EXPERIENCE that at the times I keep away from ANY computer monitors (even older/smaller ones), as well as sticking to my selected-food diet, that's when I have the absolute least symptoms. I don't bleed heavily, I don't get Urinary Tract Infections, my fibromyalgia remains under control, and so forth.
Just check out the site that I posted in the original post, and you'll find out alot about mine (and others) experiences with both CRTs & LCDs that nobody is telling you.
Suffice that ALL monitors have the potential for being problematic, BECAUSE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO OFFICIAL REGULATION OF THIS ISSUE, and mostly, because there's such ignorance on the issue by the self-professed "experts" a number of whom have jumped to varying conclusions BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T THOROUGHLY RESEARCHED IT TO THE EXTENT OF SEEING A "BIRDS-EYE" VIEW VS. THEIR OWN NARROW VIEWS.
Thing is, you won't get to learn how "isolated" all experts' theories are unless you concentrate, since there's ALOT of sundry info. on there, including links to real-life people chatting about their CRT/LCD experiences on newsgroups.
Thanks for sharing about the evils of a flat monitor, I spend a lot of time waching at those liquid crystals and I know it's very damaging- now you confirmed it once more.
I just think you went too far blaming everything else that fell in your horizon- vitamin C. You know that this beauty is the most researched among all minerals/vitamins with many many proven benefits. Vitamin C helps your acne, helps your inflamation helps almost everything. Even dr.Atkins, great propagastor of using supplements in his "Vitanutrient solution" said that he has to think of any condition that vitamin C doesn't help (and vitamin C got 9 pages of space, the most of any suppl.). And vitamincfoundation has more than enough info on the subject. Allergic reaction is possible, maybe due to corn traces since 90%+ of ascorbic acid is made from corn, maybe some impurities, who knows, but to blame vitamin C for the problems you mentioned is a too much of a strech. How in a world ascorbic acid causes genital inflamation, stomach pain?
Vitamin C "supposedly" supports immune system? It's no.1 reason I can't get a decent sore throat (longer than 2 days), runny nose or angry cold virus is- vitamin C and lots of it! Megadoses of vitamin C surely gets your immune system going! Big time!
Also understand you are implicating saturated (dairy) fats in palying a role in feeling you worse. Maybe type and mixture in a particular food, but not saturated fats themselves! These beauty fats were given clemency way back and I think it was much written about that. Unsaturated fats get derrailed much faster and become undigestible for bile and lipase. And starch and fats mix perefectly!
Heavy bleading could been caused by many things among abnormal estrogen/progesteron/testosteron levels in the body. Who knows.
Ask any NAET practitioner and kineseologist, and they'll tell you there's all sorts of intolerances, including Acid & Calcium intolerances.
Furthermore, people who tend to get adult acne, can have themselves tested for various foods (including ascorbic acid) via the more reliable QXCI, and see what the QXCI yields.
But not everyone can afford the above, and its practitioners aren't always trustworthy.
So, I address this to anyone who gets reactions to chelation,
and also to anyone who tends to get adult acne and/or chronic colds, sore throats, stomach pains, fibro-pain & migraine:
Instead of taking MY word for it, just test for yourselves.
Try chelating **without** Vitamin C and see what happens.
Then try chelating **with** Vitamin C and see what happens.
OR:
Don't chelate, but rather merely take alot of Vitamin C, and see if you get any reactions.
Next:
Abstain for about a month from extreme acids such as Citric/Ascorbic acid (or any other acids which you suspect may cause problems such as pineapple, kiwi, other sourish fruit). Additionally: Minimize potato chips (which have solanine and are also a concentrated form of starch - which is inflammatory). Additionally: Minimize chocolate, though chocolate cake should be OK, since it contains eggs which counteract inflammation.
Then see what happens.
BUT ALSO:
Avoid saturated dairy fats and concentrated starches (such as corn starch, modified food starch, and NON-WATER-LOGGED potatoes), and pizza, milk chocolate, dairy-ice-cream-which-contains-starch-or-high-fat, licorice.
Especially avoid the combo of saturated [dairy] fats and starches.
Then see what happens.
But keep a faithful log of foods ingested during that period. If you have problems, report back, stating the exact foods you ate, and we'll take it from there.
Believe me, I'm not saying this off the top of my head, but rather from extensive personal experience - unlike many practitioners who haven't a clue, since they haven't been actual EXPERIENCERS.
Even the second best plant food (in my opinion)- brazil nut can be very clogging to some people! I love them, I eat them by a bucket and I thrive on them. But my firnd brazil nuts throw out of balance, including acne adn everything you can think of.
Despite that nutritionally brazil nut is very hard to beat, incl. the best amino acid composition for human being and super generous amounts glutathione.
My point is your recipee fir the test could include almost any food or supplement. But here is no need to blame on one supplement. As far as milk chocolate and pizza clogging up your system almost every at leat a bit health-conscious person knows that.
It doesn't mean your experience isn't valid. It means it is incorrect to generalize aboput ascorbic acid. I ate a lot of ascorbic acid both, from oranges (up to 16 a day) natural source and ascorbic acid (mineral asciorbates and sodium ascorbate) up to 16 grams a day. And I tell you honestly- I thrive on it! The only thing it did for me (and for a few people I know) is to give a kick in the **** to all cold viruses and alike. And no acne! or anything like that! And have no intentions to lie.
In the end, we both could be right! Let's call it a draw.
I speak from experience - Atkins is very unhealthy for people like myself.
When I sautee eggs in butter (or especially if I take inflammatory potatoes together with clogging butter) I'm in BIG trouble.
I once bought the Betty Crocker low-carb chocolate-chip cookie mix.
I followed the recipe INCLUDING butter. My body locked up afterward.
Listen, if YOU would be inside MY body and insider OTHERS' bodies, you wouldn't be so sure of yourself as you are now.
Everything is relative.
It's everyone's choice who to believe, depending on their EXPERIENTIAL PERSPECTIVE, rather than SEMANTICS DISHED OUT BY ALL & SUNDRY.
By the way, re: "C" what I mean is that EXCESSIVE "C" can be either intolerable or tolerable to people depending on their particular makeup, and can furthermore be tested via QXCI.
I once participated in an e-group wherein a guy mentioned that he visited a kinesologist who advised him the maximum dosage of "C" tolerable for his body, since beyond that max, his arm weakened. And that guy was not a weakling, from what I gathered - yet his arm weakened beyond that dosage. Beware of kineseologists though, not all of them are reliable, in fact I'd say the majority are not, even if there's *some* truth to many modalities.
As for dairy fats, to give another example, I *am* able to tolerate moderate servings of Edy's French Silk ice cream which happens to be delicious.
Here's why:
(1) Even though it's dairy fat, still it's LOW fat (rather than saturated)
(2) Even though it's dairy fat, still, it doesn't contain starch in its ingredients
Does this mean I avoid starches? NO, NO & AGAIN NO!
If starches are water-logged, such as liquidy instant-potatoes, they're OK. Whole wheat bread, rye krisp, rice cakes are OK. There's so much more to the story.
It has to do with the particular combo of food. For all I know, even *if* corn starch causes ice cream to become problematic, maybe corn starch in the form of gravy is less problematic.
But then, most people prefer black & white rather than shades of grey...
If only they believed in shades of grey more, then maybe they'd develop the instinct to listen to their bodies rather than what so-called experts tell them. Hey, if such instincts were well-honed, maybe the tsunami victims would have been spared just like those animals. See, animals don't have the power of SPEECH, that's why they can't understand EXPERTS such as Atkins!
But you'll just keep on arguing no matter what I say, right? I usually post either for the purpose of asking advice, or else in order to give people the benefit of my money-wasted experiences TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. I definitely don't enjoy debating with people merely for the sake of debate.
So if there's anyone intelligent reading this, and if they have health problems, they have absolutely nothing to lose by experimenting. All I ask is this: If anyone reading this is helped, please spread the word, so that the benefit can have a ripple effect rather than stagnating.
I had a bladder infection years ago. I was told to take lots of vitamin C and cranberry extract to acidify my bladder. I have never been the same. It scorched my bladder, and caused interstitial cystitis. I think there may be a place for VERY well buffered vitamin C, but with caution.
I think your diet probably made a big difference to you. I eat low carb in the "Protein Power" style, with lean meats, good fats, all the non-starchy veggies I want, only occasional low sugar fruits, and some other low-carb treats. This makes a huge difference to the cfs/fm, blood sugar & candida. It doesn't heal the situation, but I feel radically worse without it.
First of all, Angie, considering your I.C. I *strongly* suggest you take either fist-fulls of Bings when in season, or black cherry yogurt, or approx. a tsp. black cherry concentrate in water every day on an empty stomach, or with a drop of yogurt (but not with starches!) It's the PRIMARY food (additional to ulcer-herpes protocol) which healed my internal bleeding caused by computer monitors, when the MEDICAL JERKS didn't have a clue. It also helps gout victims. The medical AND alternative world are *so* utterly misguided, it's pitiful.
I hope Cyrulius read about your "C" experience, just to show that not everyone can tolerate the same amounts of acids. I bet people don't even realize that drinking lemonade or orange juice etc. can cause inflammation/sores in one's private areas, if they're sensitive.
Acids need to be taken with CAUTION. People have to first & foremost LISTEN TO THEIR BODIES - **NOT** to so-called experts! The "experts" WON'T tell you this! They only speak in black & white, rather than shades of grey.
HOWEVER, Angie, unlike your experience, I emphasize that there are many people such as myself who can be HARMED by Atkins' advice about butter (and other such saturated fats, especially dairy fats).
I'm not disputing that it may help teens to lose weight AND to grow tall.
But once they're past their teens, I think Atkins diets warrant caution no less than acids.
I also strongly believe that the truth will come out eventually. I'm just so WEARY of the worlds' fickleness, like a bunch of programmed zombies of the matrix dancing to the tune of "professionals" like puppets on a string.
That's the reason why I've decided to use such strong wording on CureZone - to enable everyone to realize THE EXTENT OF "DECOYS" NOT JUST AMONG MEDICAL "EXPERTS" BUT ALSO NUTRITIONAL "EXPERTS" AND YES, EVEN SOME OF THE WELL-MEANING ADVISERS ON CURE-ZONE.
NOBODY IS FALLIBLE.
P.S. Again speaking of acids, I personally am more scared of the excessive chlorine in tap water, than I am of micro-organisms in tap water. I think the body is naturally better equipped to fight off the latter than the former. I don't CARE what the "experts" at the water companies say. All I know is that when I tasted unregulated water from a neighbor's well, it tasted the way my local water USED TO TASTE and that neighbor has a strappingly-healthy family. I also don't trust flu shots, nor anything the wolf-in-sheeps-clothing "experts" wish to shove down the throats of the gullible populace.
"If anyone reading this is skeptical, why not try this experiment:
I know it's difficult, but try to abstain from computer use as much as possible for, say, a 7-day stretch, then see how you feel. BUT ALSO, during that period, abstain from citric/ascorbic acid, saturated dairy fat such as pizza & milk-chocolate, concentrated starches such as potatoes (especially not potatoes w/butter), and corn starch. "
Question: What would this experiment prove? If you feel better, you won't know whether it is because you abstained from computer use, or because you abstained from the foods you list.
Your experiement proves nothing about computer poisoning.
A better experiment to prove YOUR point would be to abstain from the computer and change NOTHING ELSE for a week. Then, see if you feel different.... If you did that, and felt better, THEN THAT would point to the computer as the toxin.
But with all due respect, those problematic foods may well affect THOSE SAME TYPES OF PEOPLE who tend to be affected by computer monitors.
So, assume they'd just abstain from computers, but not those foods.
Then they might say:
Ha, I still feel lousy.
Ah, but maybe it's those foods causing them to feel lousy?
And they're not differentiating?
So, can you offer an alternative un-flawed experiment?
A parallel example:
In order to remain alive (or well) RESPECTIVELY:
DO NOT JUST avoid cyanide (or minimize computer monitors)
ALSO avoid arsenic (and minimize problematic food).
Another parallel example:
This is not unlike the Guaifenesin study conducted by Dr. Bennett where Dr. St. Amand stated that the test failed because at the time of the study he did not yet realize that fibromyalgics needed to avoid salicylates for Guaifenesin to be effective.
Similarly, it's not enough just to avoid monitors, you have to also avoid the OTHER factors.
My mother, who never used a computer in her life until she was in her late sixties, and even then used them rarely, maybe an hour a week, and who almost never watches television, has had serious CFS since her thirties. She also developed thyroid problems, IBS, diverticulitis, heart disease and probably some other stuff I don't know about.
And she's hardly ever used a computer.
So I guess computers aren't the ONLY source of illness...
I'd just like to clarify that I am not recommending atkins. For me it's more like protein power, which has lean meats and good fats like avocado, olive oil, etc. Also lots of non-starchy veggies. I find it to be the best plan for me, and most folks with candida, fm/cfs and other diseases do very well on this. I also try to use organic wherever I can.
Thank you for the cherry suggestion, but I don't do well with fruit sugar. It causes me all sorts of problems.
I would also like to say that I had physical challenges before we ever got a computer, and I don't believe the computer made things any worse. I actually feel this computer is a window to the world for me, and I've learned so much that I've applied to my health -it's been amazing. I'm not saying you don't have a valid concern, but I don't think it's the source of my health issues.
I believe in using wisdom, doing your best with the things you can change, not freaking out over all the possible poisons, but trusting God for what we can't change or what we don't know about.
Angie, in response to yours, I'm curious on 2 scores:
(1) If you've ever tried *specifically* black cherry concentrate. Because I, too, am very sensitive to fruit, but I find the latter, unlike other fruit, to be healing, and in fact it's on the recommended-list for people with Crohn's, ulcers, and I.C.
I don't mean to pressue, but I'd appreciate if you could indulge my curiosity.
(2) What's the brand/year/type of computer monitor you use? Is it an LCD/other? Because they're NOT all the same - in fact the ancient 14" HP CRT I'm using now isn't 1/2 as bad as the brand-new LCD I had last year which was lethal.
So maybe you just lucked out and happen to have one of the less-lethal ones. Remember, this field is totally unregulated.
Finally, you may not have such hyper nerves - which may be a factor in why some of us are more affected by *any* monitors & fluorescent lights.
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