its a gaggle of laughs, a forum called "Rife", well sheeeeit, it must be Rife cuz da name sayz so. And any forum with the word "truth" in it, well sheeeitt, it must be da truth too. Howz bout I get me a forum thats called the "best kickass honky tonk music" forum and then post some mp3's in there ?
Truth don't need to be called "truth", it stands on its own. Anything purposefully labeled as "truth" is suspect to me, just like anything called "nutrasweet" is sweet cuz da ain't nuthin sweet to me about no methyl esters of dipeptides that are neuroactive. KInda like national health care not bein nuthin to do with helpin anyone's health any more than the gummint ever helped anyone but themselves. Folks that can't see it, well, they're just somethin or an udder.
I think you've completely misunderstood what the point of my post was. Maybe it is because you haven't read the posts in the thread, you've admittedly only skimmed them. I realize that Ask Curezone isn't a forum for any specific protocol however, it was NOT the differing opinions about MRI's that created the problem. It was the nasty personal attacks and the smearing of other posters character that clearly violated the TOS and Posting Guidelines over and over again and there was only one person doing it.
It seems as if (from your response) you've put my post in a box and entitled it 'a difference of opinion on protocol' and that is NOT what my post is about. Like you said there are many different protocols utilized here but that is not the issue. My point is that whenever anyone disagrees with Hv and dares to put it in print they are attacked and that has NOTING to do with the protocol because he makes it personal. If you would have read the whole thread you would have seen that.
"When it becomes personal, then walk away. Your arguement has certainly already been put forward by that point - so take the 'high road' and end it........."
Sorry, just can't do that even though I do NOT like conflict. If we all sat back and did nothing when we saw something going on that wasn't right our playground would sure enough be an uncomfortable place to be. And when accusations are made against a person that person has every right to defend themselves, if they didn't, the reader might just believe the slanderous accusations that were made. I think the high road is to bring it all out in the open because doing nothing empowers the bully to continue bullying. And finally, if one person is to be held to the TOS and Posting Guidelines then everyone should adhere to them, if not then what good are they?
I'll leave you with this: All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing.
BNG my friend, I too have a lot of respect for Wombat, Uny and H. I have respect for all of them when it comes to the knowledge they have imparted and their obvious desire to help others find healing and good health. With some of them, such as yourself, I even have close friendship. However, the topic of this thread was decorum and not who was or was not right in their knowledge or opinions regarding MRI's.
The gist of most posts here is how disconcerting it has been to see all of the uncalled for insults and, if I may be so bold to observe, what appears to be an obsessive pattern on the part of one individual of not being able to handle posts and individuals that disagree with them. The result has been that time and time again, instead of merely making one or two posts which state an opinion and then perhaps rebut an alternate opinion we see a string of posts that become increasingly insulting to other members.
The debate forums were created for a reason, and even there such insulting remarks should not be allowed to go beyond the pale. Prolonged debate in support forums is inappropriate and circumvents the rules and design of CureZone. Insulting remarks that attack the messenger instead of the message in any forum are clearly not in keeping with the stated guidelines of CureZone.
When such behavior comes from someone who has been given the privilege and responsibility of having a private forum it is, in my opinion, a blackmark not only for that individual but for all of CureZone to see such behavior on support forums - particularly one such as "Ask CureZone", which I believe was accurately observed by another poster to be essentially the "gateway to CureZone".
I have had a tendency in the past to get into more prolonged debates than I should have. Sometimes those debates became less than friendly and took on personal tones (shades of Corinthian and Dangerous Bacon, for those who remember). Invariably I have regretted doing so. If we are confident in our knowledge or opinions, then it should not take scores of posts beyond an initial one or two to make our points and we should let those couple of posts stand on their merits without arguing (or insulting) ad infinitum to keep trying to support our initial premise. And we, especially us private forum owners, should be better individuals than to let ourselves become petty or vindictive or sling mud against other members.
It is a lesson that I have had to learn - or at least tried to learn. I hope that the same can happen for others.
My two cents,
DQ
PS - I agree with you that Grz is a wonderful example to follow. He is one of my heroes.
Actually that post was worth a hell of a lot more than two cents. In fact the price of gold just went up again. ;-)
Healing occurs on many levels and there are many aspects that can be shared on all of these levels. Healing isn't all physical. As we see by many posts, even by people who are supposed to lead by example, emotional healing is often missed and overlooked. Holistic health needs more healers who lead by example across the full spectrum of healing. Especially forum owners who help brand curezone.
curezone started out OK years ago, but over the past couple of years it has sunk very low, so low that I barely ever post on it any more, and the only time I ever visit it is when I have a few seconds to kill at my computer, and have seen all the other sites, including yahoo, and msn... which I rate very very low.
As for wombat and some other owners, they are actually the reason why curezone is worthless. If Dusan wanted to, he could've kept CZ smarter, more open and so on. Instead he let the avalanche of stupidity take over, and as a result history is repeating itself - whether it is greenpeace, UN, or medicine, it is all about m*o*o*ns taking over from smart people who started it all.
No one is immune to it: evil is always lurking around the corner and waiting to take over at the first sign of weakness.
I'll have to disagree with you about Wombat. I hold her in high regard, she helps many people and is above reproach.
I think the reason for the downward slide of CZ is because too many people stand by and watch members slandering other members instead of standing up for what is right.
As long as light is not shed on the darkness things will continue to get worse which is why I started this thread in the first place.
"No one is immune to it: evil is always lurking around the corner and waiting to take over at the first sign of weakness."
Exactly, that is why it needs to be addressed instead of pretending like it didn't happen.
"evil" of the type you mention in your initial post is not that important. It is like noise, or bad connection - easily noticed and even easier to avoid.
It is when evil is presenting itself as "good" and when people are misled by it that it becomes a serious problem.
There is no better example of that then the Iodine supplementation forum btw. A bunch of egotistical maniacs holding themselves in highest regard at the expense of other people's health. I was there, and I've seen it's evil face.
>>>It is when evil is presenting itself as "good" and when people are misled by it that it becomes a serious problem.<<<
I agree with above.
However, this: >>>A bunch of egotistical maniacs<<<
...is DEFINITELY out of line. And it's particularly out of place in this thread, which is about people being able to post on CZ without being personally attacked.
Any person can disagree with a protocol or methodology without personal attacks & name calling. We were all supposed to learn that in grade school :(
"There is no better example of that then the Iodine supplementation forum btw. A bunch of egotistical maniacs holding themselves in highest regard at the expense of other people's health. I was there, and I've seen it's evil face."
Name calling and slandering are against the TOS & PG.
This could be viewed as a perfect example of why I felt it so important to bring this behavior to light. If one member does it and there are NO consequences for breaking the TOS then everyone else feels they have the right to break them too!
The other thing we see with posts like this is that curezone draws many sick people. When people are very ill, sometimes their minds go into weird areas. It would be nice if there were a team of mods who could deal with these kinds of issues.
It is essential to have a safe sharing place if healing is job one for curezone. If curezone is something else such a as a revenue machine propped up on the hits that drama stimulates, then of course that is a very different situation.
It would be nice to know what the main thrust of curezone is about. When issues like this are categorically ignored, one wonders.
We have just seen this thread loop into irony. A thread about personal attacks see yet another personal attack. And behind a number yet. Nothing cowardly about that. ;-)
Do you suppose the enema forum could be applied to the entire site in order to purge parasites of the human kind?
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