I completed the first day of my fast tonight, Tuesday night. I am committed to continuing to develop the mental/emotional breakthrough to enable a long fast. I am finding myself much warmer and more open and trusting with others. I felt real security, safety, and warmth from some others in a group I was in just the other day. This at long last -- something I have waited for in my life for a long time.
Someone messaged me:
"We are way stronger than we give ourselves credit for."
YES!!!
So I have completed Day One as of Tuesday night and I am into Day Two.
So Day Two is completed tomorrow, Wednesday.
I cannot pretend this is easy keeping up my resolve. Support plez!!!! Anyone. :P
Physically nothing at all to report. I was groggy today as the result of the food I ate yesterday -- that's it. An improvement in mood as the nighttime came and the 24-hour mark of the fast approached. A few mild "hunger" pangs. I was reading on line about fasting and I think maybe in Isabelle Moser's site there was mention of these feelings and that you have to realize when these are not hunger. You have to discern between the false (bacterially-created) pangs and true hunger. I would really like someday to fast to completion/experience true hunger. I think this is really possible for everyone. I think we can really achieve that level of health. On this site it really hit me the attitude to take to the false pangs. You just have to say to yourself: "This isn't hunger! This isn't hunger!" For some reason that was really positive and healing and exciting and resonant for me. It helped me right through the false pangs today. it helped me get through them so easily. Maybe in this fast I will reach the point of no more pangs!!!
The only challenge is keeping myself happy through the day and keeping a sense of warmth, connection, and caring in my life.
I have 2 friends that I can talk to tomorrow and I will be going to some AA meetings, where I just pretend everyone is fasting/food-sober (i.e. not eating when eating is not OK with them) when they speak of sobriety. Ha! Am not alcoholic but AA meetings are always a feel-good, spiritual place for me. I am going to them a lot right now in my current work to learn to fast/be "food-sober."
Someone recommended 23 days to me and this is a very appealing and appropriate-feeling goal.
23 days is a big goal but I am aiming to do as long as I can by having a big goal... on the idea that if I aim high and get halfway there that is great and might be more than I would do if I aimed lower ???
I do not expect to do such a long fast but I keep the idea of it in my mind as a lovely possibility. And it could happen; people have had spontaneous healing experiences like this, I've read on various forums accounts of things like this... I am affirming the possibility of it for myself!!!
One of the other things to remember when we are hungry is that the lemonade quells this.
Find from experimenting how much and how often works best for you.
Another thing is that when we feel hungry we are often just thirsty. Alternating lemonade and water is an effective way of cleansing as the lemonade will agitate the toxins and the water will wash them away.
We all have parasites. That's just an unpleasant fact of life. What do you think those parasites will do to us when we stop feeding them? They won't be too happy, that's for sure!
THEY can make us hungry too. The longer you progress on your cleanse the more parasites you will pass out and/or kill off.
They thrive in the encrusted toxemia lining our festered colons.
hi, Lemonista,
thanks -- I really have the same understanding of the actions of the parasites... yes, that when we cut off their food supply (ha HA!!) they react "angrily." I would like to learn better to enjoy the detox symptoms like weakness/tiredness based on the knowledge that I am KILLING THEM! These microbes have ruined my life ... my challenge is that what they usually somehow engender is anxiety. This anxiety gives me thoughts that I am dying etc. I never REALLY feel I am dying but in the past I have always somehow been made ... AGITATED enough to be provoked into breaking the fast.. LIke I have fear of something unknown. Anyway. The detox is really intimidating/unpleasant. The other thing that happens, neurologically, is feelings of just boredom. I think this provokes a lot of people to abandon fasts. I know it has me. I want to acknowledge and work with these problems so they don't get me this time. I have huge doubts right now and feel I just have to think of one day at a time in the fast. 23 days or whatever just seems really really long. Of course I have suffered horribly from my ill mental/physical health for so much longer than that -- like 23 YEARS, literally. What's 23 days? Of course, then I have real fears about going into the unknown like this. But I just have to do it one moment at a time. it will be fine. It's just a series of moments. Also, breaking the fast , that process, will also be just a series of moments. I think it is going to be really important to me to remember that. I worked through some fears of the fast-breaking process last night. i thought: what if I have no hunger at the time I am nonetheless compelled for whatever reason to break the fast (I imagine I will just get scared if I get beyond 10 days... I need to work through that, too). But about the breaking of the fast -- I was feeling so scared that my body would simply never want food again. It is for some reason absolutely terrifying to me when my body resists eating. (why? because the parasites are making me feel that anxiety again. They are afraid for their lives. they are afraid I will obey my body and not eat until I am ready, and thus that they will be starved to death). ... It is all very challenging. I am OK for today, I think. I am OK for tomorrow. That will complete day 3. I want to connect to the proud, happy, motivating feeling that I can get when I think of going beyond 3 days to a real Longer Fast. I am doing something so accomplished and good for myself. I will be able to tell people proudly of what I am doing. It's possible also I will be able to scare some people I would dearly love to frighten. Ha! But the positive, proud aspect of it is really real and I can really make myself feel good by connecting with that.
How's it going for you? hope to hear from you.
I do short fasts from time to time of 1-3 days. I like the idea of giving my digestive system a rest and detoxing. I DO find the hunger pangs make it something less to look forward to - therefore doing it less than I should.
So what I've started doing is taking Hoodia pills when fasting. It really cuts back on the hunger pangs or eliminates them, is nothing more than one small herbal pill. The purists who enjoy the trials and tribulations of conquering hunger pangs disagree (though nobody's yet given me any evidence that this harms the fast in any way).
Bottom line, I can fast more often (since I don't dread it as much), for longer periods, and with nothing but water (and a small herbal capsule once or twice a day). I've done it with and without the Hoodia and have never noticed any fewer fasting benefits doing it this way - and so many positives to the experience overall.
I consider it a great fasting aid and am surprised more people don't discuss it or use it. I guess some consider it cheating even though it doesn't harm anything. But I don't fast to earn a metal - just for health benefits.
hey, mrcuddly,
thanks for the message!
hey, whatever works! I am definitely not a purist. I don't know anything about hoodia. I am a scaredy-cat, so I won't try any sort of pill, herbal or otherwise... it's a question of my anxiety, which is so intense I just have to stay with what is familiar. i find that if I try or take ANYTHING, whether on a fast or not, and I start to feel any sort of reaction --good or bad!--I freak out and can only console myself with food. Since this is my drug of choice (food), the eating just invariably makes me feel worse, so I simply avoid behavior that might trigger comfort eating (a misnomer -- the result is always DIScomfort, most painfully, the neurological effects of anxiety/depression)!
but go forth with my blessing on the hoodia, for what it is worth. It seems to me anything that helps one fast is good! I am glad for you that you have found a way to fast! .. Are you prepping for a fast now, or doing one? How's it going? Are you fasting to learn to stop overeating, like me? Oh such a painful painful habit. It has , no exaggeration, ruined my health and life. I am so glad at last to be starting to learn to fast and to have become willing to learn to make the lifestyle change of respecting my body when it can't handle food. Fasting is the key catalyst/healing activity for this lifestyle change, for me. It re-sensitizes me and makes overeating unbearable. I am forced to learn to cope in another way. i am glad it seems possible I will get my health back, and my life back, and on a different basis -- a more spiritual one. Right NOW I am dealing with heavy detox, today completing day 3 of my current (breakthrough) fast. It's a breakthrough in that I might be able to go a week, longer than ever before, ; I have never seriously felt able to do this before. write again!
Powerray
Hi April
I am in a new fast now.
I have been intermittently just trying to get a longer fast going.
I get started and then I get miserable, intolerably so, and quit.
1 1/2 to 2 weeks ago I achieved like 4.5 days.
This was a personal record.
Then i had scaary food episodes. Just like 3 of them , 3 huge overeating episodes and not , I don't know, not a holocaust but not nice. I was just gettting a little backlash...
I am struggling to keep this current fast I am in day 3 I am halfway decided to just go to the supermarket because I am jsut so emotionally miserable.
I do not know what is going to happen
sorry about all this
fasting is just something I have to figure out a strategic way of learning I guess though i am jsut trying to get myself sort of acclimated to it now...
for detox i use enemas and these give relief but I am often too tired/lethargic to do them
it's crazy to eat before i have fasted long because this jsut returns me right back to my toxic state -- yet I cannot stop doing this
so i dunno what is going to happen tonight. i am totally miserable.
i just have so much to figure out about how to do this -- the trouble seems centered in my fearful thoughts that prevent me from preparing strategiccally for a fast -- by eating say 1 meal a day and lightly... scared to do that and THEN fast... scared of losing too much weight basically. ButI must fast for my health then this is perfectly safe and the only safe thing to do. I just don't know what to do.
You know what you described is pretty much what I've been doing. I try juice fast for a couple days but suddenly binge eat. Juice fasting is NOT easy. I think stress can be a big part of the breaking the fast & eating for me or that may just be a excuse I don't know. I get these SUPER bad sugar cravings which I know are caused by the yeast & bad bacteria in my body. I get extrememly weak/lethargic like you when I start juicing & I have a 2 yr old son & 6 yr old daughter to care for =(
I get like you to being emotionally miserable but again I believe & know its the sugar addiction I have & all these toxins built up in my body.
I really need to try juice fast/feast for at least 30 days & stick to it. I'm hoping it will really help heal my pancreatitis. I'm like you to afraid of loosing to much weight. Today was my 1st day of my juice fast. So hopefully tomorrow will be day 2.
Don't give up if you fail just try again until you suceed.
april please be in touch! too tired to write right now but let us fast together starting real soon like in 1-2 days?? lets talk about all the fasting issues... fearing weight loss especially ! this fear so much in my way! ugh! Happy to hear from you and thank you for your encouragement!! by posting and posting my misery I carried myself through on my 4.5 day fast. look forward to talking!
Powerray
Good to hear back from you. Ok lets talk & then try to fast together. Having a fasting partner would be great support for one another. Let me know when your ready.
hi, i just meant "how are you" or how soon do you want to start. i messaged you earlier. ... i'm doing a water fast. i look forward to hearing from you! Powerray
I'm doing ok could be better...lol
How are you feeling? Do you wanna start the fast on wedensday or thursday? Let me know so I can prepare ok?
I'm veggie juicing because I know my body is starving for minerals & vitamins.
Which brand of Hoodia do you buy? Since supplements are not regulated, brand seems to matter. Thx for the Hoodia advice because my inability to deal with hunger is a major problem for me.
I can see the battle you are facing but thankfully your conscious mind has the intelligence to know what is best and what is logical and what is happening.
As for not feeling hunger ever again? WE WISH!!
Our bodies simply switch into a different source of fuel and change gear, lowering our metabolism to cope accordingly.
It is that lowered metabolism that is attractive to me as it means a more efficient system which gets more energy out of a smaller amount of food.
The interest in a high metabolism is borne purely from greed: being able to eat more and put on less weight. Metabolic waste must be dealt with and so puts more strain on the body than is necessary.
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