Reading messages in this forum, I kinda got an impression that some people who are frequently posting on this forum, actually believe that Nazi Germans and other Nazis in Europe never killed a single Jew.
I assume that when you post a message, you actually believe in the content of the message you post.
Or you may just be having fun postingthings you would never consider a truth? kinda trolling?
When you post a message and that mesage states that there were more Jews after the war then before war, then it means you actually believe those numbers?
Or, what?
Or you maybe are having fun?
Based on "facts" presented in this forum, it appears Nazis not only didn't kill a single Jew, they actually helped them reproduce, so there will be more Jews after the War then before the War?
Yeah, sure ... do you actually believe that those numbers have any credibility or do you post them here so that people can laugh?
Anyone who believes in this picture is either totally ignorant on European history and the history of WWII or has an agenda, or is, just maybe, plain stupid?
I don't know! This was a quetion, not a constatation! you tell me?
Why would you post a message with that content?
What is the purpose?
Are you pro Nazi?
Are you against Jews?
Are you uninformed?
What? What is your agenda?
Nazis were all but angels.
Not only Nazis were killing Jews, they were actually treating the same way huge number of Soviets, Germans, homosexuals, communists, Gypsies (Romans), Greeks, Italians, Romanians, Serbs, Croats, Slovaks, Polish etc.
Nazis had a special treatment for Jews, Gypsies, Soviets, Serbs, homosexuals and communists.
Quick death or slow death.
Nazis killed millions of Soviet POW by starvation.
That was a slow death.
In one single camp, 800,000 POW were kept without food and left to die of starvation!
Peter Calvocoressi, Guy Wint, Total War -
"The total number of prisoners taken by the German armies in the USSR was in the region of 5.5 million. Of these, the astounding number of 3.5 million or more had been lost by the middle of 1944 and the assumption must be that they were either deliberately killed or done to death by criminal negligence. Nearly two million of them died in camps and close on another million disappeared while in military custody either in the USSR or in rear areas; a further quarter of a million disappeared or died in transit between the front and destinations in the rear; another 473,000 died or were killed in military custody in Germany or Poland." They add, "This slaughter of prisoners cannot be accounted for by the peculiar chaos of the war in the east. ... The true cause was the inhuman policy of the Nazis towards the Russians as a people and the acquiescence of army commanders in attitudes and conditions which amounted to a sentence of death on their prisoners."
Christian Streit: Keine Kameraden: Die Wehrmacht und die Sowjetischen Kriegsgefangenen, 1941-1945, Bonn: Dietz (3. Aufl., 1. Aufl. 1978), ISBN 3-8012-5016-4 - "Between 22 June 1941 and the end of the war, roughly 5.7 million members of the Red Army fell into German hands. In January 1945, 930,000 were still in German camps. A million at most had been released, most of whom were so-called "volunteers" (Hilfswillige) for (often compulsory) auxiliary service in the Wehrmacht. Another 500,000, as estimated by the Army High Command, had either fled or been liberated. The remaining 3,300,000 (57.5 percent of the total) had perished."
Nazi persecution of Soviet Prisoners of War United States Holocaust Memorial Museum -
"Existing sources suggest that some 5.7 million Soviet army personnel fell into German hands during World War II. As of January 1945, the German army reported that only about 930,000 Soviet POWs remained in German custody. The German army released about one million Soviet POWs as auxiliaries of the German army and the SS. About half a million Soviet POWs had escaped German custody or had been liberated by the Soviet army as it advanced westward through eastern Europe into Germany. The remaining 3.3 million, or about 57 percent of those taken prisoner, were dead by the end of the war."
Jonathan Nor, Soviet Prisoners of War: Forgotten Nazi Victims of World War II -
"Statistics show that out of 5.7 million Soviet soldiers captured between 1941 and 1945, more than 3.5 million died in captivity."
Christian Streit: Keine Kameraden: Die Wehrmacht und die Sowjetischen Kriegsgefangenen, 1941-1945, Bonn: Dietz (3. Aufl., 1. Aufl. 1978), ISBN 3-8012-5016-4 -
"Between 22 June 1941 and the end of the war, roughly 5.7 million members of the Red Army fell into German hands. In January 1945, 930,000 were still in German camps. A million at most had been released, most of whom were so-called "volunteer" (Hilfswillige) for (often compulsory) auxiliary service in the Wehrmacht. Another 500,000, as estimated by the Army High Command, had either fled or been liberated. The remaining 3,300,000 (57.5 percent of the total) had perished."
Vera Alexander was a Jewish inmate at Auschwitz who looked after 50 sets of Romani twins:
“ I remember one set of twins in particular: Guido and Ina, aged about four. One day, Mengele took them away.
When they returned, they were in a terrible state: they had been sewn together, back to back, like Siamese twins. Their wounds were infected and oozing pus. They screamed day and night. Then their parents– I remember the mother's name was Stella– managed to get some morphine and they killed the children in order to end their suffering.
OK, first of all I will grant you that there are some posters here who may be anti-semite the same as there are anti-semites in the general population. However, I would also propose that much of what is perceived as anti-semitism is really anti-Zionism. I will also grant you that there were some monstrous people among the Nazis, especially among the SS, and that there were murders, torture, depravity and inhumane medical experiments. Some people are just twisted and war can twist people to the extreme (look at our own atrocities in Vietnam, for example, or the atrocities committed on both sides in our Civil War).
Nevertheless, the figures that have been used and which have even been codified into law are grossly exaggerated and common sense alone should tell us that being Nazi did not somehow automatically turn someone into a cruel monster any more than being an American or Brit magically made someone moral and upright. Most of those in both sides who were involved in the war came from regular citizens who were no more demonic or criminal in one country than they were in others, however crual and evil some of the leaders may have been.
As the enemies, Nazis were demonized before, during and after the war - especially after the war. Much of the post-war demonization was done to help justify some of the extreme acts by the allies, such as the horrific bombing of Dresden. Even moreso, however, the demonization of Nazis and the myth of 6 million Jewish deaths was used to generate sympathy, money and influence for the Jews including the establishment and support of a Jewish homeland at the expense of the Palestinians.
Speaking as someone who is not an anti-semite, but who is decidedly anti-Zionist, I do not wish to see the huge 6 million death albatross tied around my neck or my country's neck to justify support of a radical group who would set turn the entire world into an oppressive Zionist state on one side and a Gaza strip on the other side for the "goyim" who remain alive on the other.
"Speaking as someone who is not an anti-semite, but who is decidedly anti-Zionist, I do not wish to see the huge 6 million death albatross tied around my neck or my country's neck to justify support of a radical group who would set turn the entire world into an oppressive Zionist state on one side and a Gaza strip on the other side for the "goyim" who remain alive on the other."
That about sums it up.
Also again it must be repeated that Jews were NOT the only race affected by the holocaust no matter what Jewish Hollywood producers have propagandized.
Just as important is the that Hitler was not acting alone. He had much support from corporations and elite families. Follow the money. ;-)
"Reading messages in this forum, I kinda got an impression that some people who are frequently posting on this forum, actually believe that Nazi Germans and other Nazis in Europe never killed a single Jew." -EricB
Saying that anyone here is claiming that "Nazis never killed a single Jew" is about as absurd as saying that 6 million Jews died in Nazi gas chambers. First sentence reveals that you don't even know the positions of those who post here, so go back and read up before attacking people. Find me one post in this forum that says "Nazis never killed a single Jew". As the historical facts reveal themselves and people start to see what really happened to their ancestors and relatives, you Megaphoneys increasingly use slander and defamation of character to cover up the group that you have attached yourself to. And no that group is not Jews en masse.
I'd be willing to make a wager that those people with these name calling knee jerk responses have not read past the first couple of sentences of the subject matter! These people like many of us have been conditioned since day one that certain lies are infallible truths !This conditioning doesn't allow them to really examine what they are reading!
"Its much easier to believe a lie you have heard a thousand times then believe a truth you never heard before! "
Thank you for posting this, as the child of Jewish survivers, and the relative of many of my family that didn't make it, I am happy to see some reality posted about what happened in Nazi Germany.
Its nice to know not everyone on CZ believes revisionist propaganda.
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