I just read a post below about how protein is supposed to feed candida. I am so sick of this cr@p! Can't have sugar, dairy, gluten, carbs, and now protein? What the hell are we supposed to eat? Dirt? Oh wait, dirt has parasites in it, so we can't eat that either. Honestly, dirt would be more appetizing than some of the food I've had to live off of.
I have been dealing with this cr@p for 14 years now and let me tell you something. NOTHING HAS HELPED! No amount of special diets and anti-fungals or leaky gut repair or parasite killing or any of the other countless things I've tried. And trust me, I have tried everything other than a Rife, which basically, is going to be my last resort, once I can afford one. I have nearly bankrupt my family trying to get well and were it not for them, we would be living on the streets.
I'm tired of swallowing a pharmacy every morning, only to have nothing work. This is not living. This is not enjoying life. Can't enjoy food, can't drink, can rarely go out to dinner, lost my ability to have kids, so we never got to have any, live in pain all the time from the candida, parasite, mercury toxicity, EBV and lyme and now we are supposed to give up protein? Kiss my butt! I am so close to just giving up and not giving a rat's a$$ anymore. And I know you all mean well, but no amount of "atta girl, don't give up, you'll get better," is going to help me right now. Look at my posting history. I have been here a hell of a long time and as much as I feel for everyone here, I'm tired of having to come, hoping someone has stumbled upon some miracle. I have done more research than the average scientist. I would like to be able to sleep an entire night without waking up in the middle of the night in pain. I haven't slept an entire night in 14 years. Do you know how tired I am? Damn tired! Sorry, this is more than a rant. This is just BS and there is no reason we all should have to suffer like this. I just don't believe that we can send people into space, split atoms, recreate the big bang theory, but we can't cure common diseases?! Yeah right!
Wow, quite a post! Poor you, I feel for you, considering I'm also struggling with the damn thing. I've recently decided to get my fate into my own hands and bought a book on Yeast Infection, it's supposed to be holistic so I'm putting my hopes there and I'll let you know how it goes for me (http://yeastinfection.findthetreatment.com), so far so good, seems to make sense... Good luck to you, I'm sure you'll find a cure that works for you, keep looking...
I agree with you.To hell with the diet bc like u said it doesnt work.I think candida is bulls**t.Honestly....there has got to be an underlaying cause that makes yeast grow.I wish someone would just rip my damn intestines out.This is rediculous, im 23 years old and i have to live like this?I say f**k you to candida and all the supplements these a**holes claim to cure it.You know what i think?I think these doctors come on here and see our sad helpless stories and take a bunch of s**t stick in a capsule and say it will cure us.They are making money off of our suffering.But we get so desperate we will buy anything that claims to cure us.Im sorry too,i had ot rant because i can totally agree and feel your frustration.
You are absolutely right. This is a hard living for all us. You know what I do, I enjoy everything I can and drink when I like because restrictions have done nothing for me. I understand you.
Jorge
All these restrictions do is cause us to be malnourished anyway.I mean the low sugar thing is fine...bc really we should only be taking in 8 tsp of sugar daily.(saw this on the doctors tv show)We need carbs...carbs give us energy.Fruits have so many nutrients too,that we need.Think about all of the people in the world.My husband for example is a truck driver.He has a TERRBIBLE diet.He eats tons of carb and sugar.Loves processed foods and constantly eats out of vending machines.And guess what!?Hes NOT SICK!Another example,my aunt has rsd,mersa,lupus,history of stroke,rod in her leg,machine in her back,tumor in her eye,she has been septic 3 times.I could go on forever about all her helath probelms(poor thing!)She has been on hundreds of antibiotics.Guess what?! She eats whatever the hell she wants and she have candida.And does not have digestive problems like i have.So WTF really?!
Just read all the Recommended posts and you'll figure it out. Candida is there because your body needs it. All the pills and pharmaceuticals are just thinking too small, so much so you're better off not knowing about it.
I wish you the best, and also wish you be right to do the same thing myself. I have reviewed all the curezone archives and RRR posts about candida several times, I can tell you there isn't any proof anything like that works. When antibiotics destroy the intestinal tract and the immune system goes down or whatever that makes your immune system fail, it is the hardest task in this world to reverse it. Unfortunately, it is in this way. In Curezone, most of the RRR posts don't mean anything because I have read stupid posts which are RRR rated, and I have read many excellent post that should be RRR without it. This makes me think the person who gives this category doesn't have any idea about the topic.
Jorge
If you nourish your body with the proper diet, meditate and heal your anger and rage spiritually and get rid of all stress, your appendix can refill the proper flora without taking any supplements.
I have no doubt you are doing the things right. I wish you the best and pray for it because I will be following you in this one. The only problem is I have not seen anybody come back saying I did it and I am cured. Nutrition is very important but if the infection is there, there isn't nutrition that can end with it. Remember, when an opportunistic pathogenic intracellular organism overgrowth is because cell-mediated immunity isn't working properly. One time candida penetrates the cells, the battle will be the worst of all because current oral antifungals are fungistatic. Without fungicidal drugs and a proper cell-mediated immunity, how can you eliminate a pathogen the penetrated your cells ??
There are hundreds of success testimonials in the moreless forum. ANd think about this, Moreless doesn't sell anything. He doesn't even get affiliate money for the cheap products he does encourage you to buy.
Also to ashley, my mom had stage 3 Breast Cancer and stage 4 lung cancer. "Cured" by medical standards means you have 5 years to live"
Wasn't Accutane the cure to acne? That stuff will kill you
Wasn't Gardasil the cure to HPV? Look how many women are suffering from it?
You know birth control causes Candida right? You know anti-inflammatory steroids causes candida right?
For every 1 problem pharmaceuticals fix, they cause a bigger one that people just fail to recognize the correllation of until 10-50 years later.
Also there are many people who claim to have cured cancer just by juicing. Look up Max Gerson. The thing is it sounds like he's full of shit and that's what the pharmaceutical companies wnat you to beleive. Everyone is like "Where is the proof"
Well, most of these people cured by these methods don't care about the proof, they don't need it. They've done it and it works, it is not their job to convince you. Why would they want to be around people who are so bitter from their sickness, they take it out on the people genuinely trying to help them and then quote those trying to sell them supplements as evidence.
I was on birth control before...but i dont think thats what caused candida.I actually havent been on it in over a year bc i went off to conceive.Which i did and delievered her in march.Other then that i took ibuprofen maybe 2 pills a month....not very much.So i really dont know how i got this.
JD you are so right, I didn't even read all of your links because I didn't need to. I am sympathetic to all here who are suffering, but feel like they just don't get it, have gotten too much bad advice, and I cannot believe how bad off they are and why anyone would trust doctors and pharmaceuticals or even ND's to cure them....ain't gonna happen. You are just going to go broke. I have a candida tale of woe, I could have been one of you, but I am not because I realized early on that the doctor's meds were shit, and I have while not exactly cured myself, gotten my candida down to a very livable level, and just recently got it to improve even more because I read everything, only do what makes sense to me, if it works, I do tons of it... I am not afraid to push the boundaries, and I never stop looking for good things to do. I went 6 years on a diet where I did not eat a single piece of fruit, anything with any type of sugar, and nothing yeasted or fermented, but that was as restricted as I needed to be, and I was bad off.....and it wasn't deprivation....there was still plenty I could eat. I have been on a raw vegan diet...that made me feel the best, but what can I say, cooked food is addicting (you won't understand that until you do a bit of juice fasting and 100% raw eating) I just cannot believe that none of you can get rid of your parasites, can get your candida levels down...can get your digestion fixed....something is wrong somewhere...as it is possible..and it isn't rocket Science and you don't need to drink someone else's poop to do it. I am currently taking something new that I am not naming as I don't want anyone to think I am hyping it, as I would never, but it is helping me peel back yet another layer....feel better, more like my true self than I've felt in years, and I am not going to be around here much anymore...because even though I would love to help you all get better...I have realized that I cannot do it. You have to do it yourself. Just sit with it all for a while, go deep inside yourself, your mind, your heart and ask yourself what it is that you need to do...and don't try to answer the question yourself...don't get in the way....just sit with it and the answer will come to you.....because YOU do know the answer...but it's not in your stressed out 'monkey mind' (the one that never shuts up)...it's in your inner wise all knowing mind....whatever..it's in there....I hope you find it. Peace and love to you all....
It can be done....JD's pointing you in the right direction, I have been trying to point you in the right direction, but you all seem to have been spun around by this that and the other for so long you are dizzy and cannot see.
While I appreciate and understand what you are saying, I think when you say that we don't get it and we should just go into ourselves to wait of the answers, well it's a bit insulting. I know you don't mean to come across that way, but don't you think we all have tried that? We do get it. We get it more than you know. But what I am saying is, going raw is not the only way to get well and/or live a long healthy life. As I explained before, I felt worse when I did that. I got very weak. I felt lethargic. I nearly passed out a couple of times. And I just wasn't happy physically, emotionally, etc. while doing it. And then you have to look at the millions of people around the world who smoke like chimneys, eat like crap, and so on and never get sick a day in their life.
I had a relative like that. Ate whatever she wanted, drank two fingers of scotch everyday, smoked like a chimney, lived to be in her upper 90's and never sick a day in her life. So my point is, sure, for some, living raw may be great and even help them heal. But for others, it may not help and may hurt. There is no one thing that cures everyone. If that were the case then every single person with cancer would be cured by chemo or this or that. I am thrilled for you if it has helped you, as you are one less person who has to suffer. You don't need to worry about naming the product you are on, as you have already told us about it. We are of course interested in hearing if you continue to make improvements. It's easy for people who have been cured to want to come on here and say their way is the only way. But it's close-minded and hurtful to say that we don't get it and are refusing to get well, simply because we can't or don't want to go raw. I have done 1000's of hours or research on trying to get well, including trying the raw thing and it just wan't the answer for me, as well as others I know. Thanks for understanding.
If you want I can post a website that has the biggest data base about people dealing with candida since 30 years ago. There are hundreds of testimonies that AREN'T good to read. I don't post it here because I know the pain it brings. There are testimonies of people who have spent more than $ 50 000 trying to recover their health without success. People who have done every possible diet and protocol and are still sick. It is easy for me, it is only to paste a link but it is enough with my pain to bring more to the forum's members. When people get chronic candidiasis, there is an immune problem present. The most difficult task for anybody is to reverse an immune suppression.
Jorge.
In addition to what dvjorge is saying, there are other factors at play here, like I mentioned in my original posts. I have lyme disease. No amount of eating vegan will cure my lyme. I don't know if you are familiar with lyme, but it is an insidious disease. There is a live "thing" in my body, not unlike a parasite, but far more deadly. And parasites are deadly enough on their own. My lyme is in the chronic stage, because the d**ba** doctors I saw over the years refused to believe I had lyme, simply because I lived in CA, despite the fact that I was CDC positive and had numerous positive tests. Their ignornance and God-syndrome attitude caused my health to get to the stage it is at today. My doctor feels my candida was a result of my lyme weakening my immune system. I also have Epstein Barr and mercury toxicity. Going vegan and drinking alkalizing drinks is not going to chelate the metal out of my body. I understand what you are saying and I know for basic candida, it may help some. But for people like me, who have a bit more serious things and levels of the diseases at play, this simply is not enough.
I do not believe that the body can always heal itself.If someone has cancer..well guess what your body is not going to cure it on its own.Medicine is here for a reason.I do not like taking medications.And for the record Im 23 and have only been on antibiotics 2 times in my life.Once on amoxiccilin for sinus infect 7 days and flagyl for 4 days at 250mg.And I have candida so obviously mine was not caused by medicine.I have been on a very healthy diet for awhile now and im still sick.So tell me how the hell i ended up with candida.