I have been passing ridiculous amounts of roundworms (Iím assuming that theyíre ascaris. All lab tests and worm IDs came back negative.) Previously for many months Iíd been passing them once a day. In the middle of November I did a 6th round of mebendazole (about 850mg split into 7 doses over 5 days) that Iíd purchased on ebay from Thailand. (It seemed to be just as good as the mebendazole that I got by prescription in the US.) Since the end of November, Iíve been passing worms 3 times a day every single day. Itís been absolutely exhausting to pass this many worms. I havenít had a normal BM for these last 3 months. I do small enemas of a cup of water, and repeat a few times if necessary. The worms are impossible to pass otherwise. I suppose that I could take high doses of laxatives instead. I never did enemas before I had this worm problem. I hope that I wonít be addicted to the enemas once the worm cleansing is over.
As I mentioned in a previous post, I think that Iíve had these worms for over 20 years. I was extremely sick back then. With a lot of hard work I managed to recover enough to return to work part time, even though I was clueless that my body was filled with worms. (It is possible to get somewhat better without eliminating the parasites.) I did not see signs of worms during all that time. I think thatís because when the worms died in me, they became plastered onto the insides of my intestines. I am also passing what I refer to as worm material Ė worms that have been flattened and cemented with sh*t Ė onto the contours of my intestines. Some people may refer to this as some kind of mucoid plaque. But Iím convinced that itís old dead worms. I also think that people who pass intestinal strands of mucus are probably passing pieces of decayed roundworms. The longest most intact worms that Iíve passed have been over 2 feet, but mostly they come out in smaller mucus-like pieces.
I have seen worms in every stage except for alive and mint condition. The ones in the best shape have a texture that is more substantial than mucus. But the vast majority of what I pass look like strands of mucus. Typically there is a small handful of what looks like chopped up pasta, either white or brown, in the bottom of the toilet. BMís often come out with strands of worms wrapped around them or wispy fragments of worms coming out of them. Then there are tons of flattened pieces of worm material (where you can usually still see darker outlines of how the worm was folded up on itself). Also, I pass worms that have deteriorated into a pile of brownish mucus.
I have had my husband and also a close friend examine the stuff that I have been passing. They both agree that I am passing just one kind of parasite in a huge range of stages of decay. Because I see tons of worms in all these graduated stages, it makes it obvious that it is all the same organism.
Many times I have thought that I was passing a fluke or Tapeworm segment, but upon closer examination and some thought as to what Iíd been eating, I realized that it was just an item of food. I passed a fluid filled tadpole type creature that I now think might have been a section of grapefruit.
I started passing worms accidentally about 4-6 weeks after I changed my diet last April. I wanted to eliminate all my food cravings and so I developed a diet with that intention. I now refer to my diet as a Parasite Elimination Diet as it has been amazingly successful for that purpose. I will give the details of my unusual diet in a post below.
Several weeks ago I took a 7th round of mebendazole. (625mg split into 5 doses over 4 days) I take the mebendazole with food and fat that is non-addictive (see diet below), but not as large an amount of fat as ICU recommends. (I really donít want to consume any food that feeds the worms, and they love most kinds of fat.) I generally see an increased amount of worms about a week or more after Iíve completed my dose. It takes awhile for the worms to die, and my body to break them down and eliminate them.
Iíve been planning on taking albendazole (probably in the form of Valbazen) once I feel like my body can handle the die off. I would also take more mebendazole if I felt strong enough to handle increased die off. I have no idea how fast they are reproducing. I havenít passed any really good intact specimens in a long time. Perhaps Iím passing mostly older material now, or perhaps my body has gotten better at breaking the worms down.
I have taken some herbs (wormwood, Black Walnut hull, etc.). Iím normally a person who takes herbs and natural remedies instead of drugs, but most of the parasite herbs feel more toxic and harder on my body than the drugs. I find it hard to sustain with the herbs for a long period of time, but shorter doses have been okay.
My diet by itself eliminates worms, but the occasional dose of mebendazole has greatly increased the amount of die off. Also, what Iím doing has obviously gained momentum over time. I hope that this long detailed post and description of my diet below helps some people. I have been helped by and am grateful for many of the posts here.
Basically, I only eat food that I know is not addictive for me. I came up with this diet because I was attempting to eliminate all food addictions. However, I found out a number of months later that I was filled with worms that were the root cause of all my food cravings.
Non-addictive food tastes good when Iím hungry, but I have no desire to keep eating those foods once I am full. My diet consists of plain vegetables of all kinds (except potatoes), legumes, plain low fat yogurt, eggs, fish and lean meat cooked without sauces, small amounts of seeds (hemp, flax, chia, pumpkin, sunflower, sesame), miso, vinegar, mustard, horseradish, herbs, fish oil, small amounts of avocado, and an occasional piece of cleansing fresh fruit (such as a grapefruit). I eat lots of salads, steamed vegetables, soups, fish. I try to not eat anything fried, though occasionally Iíll have a fried egg.
There is a bizarre component to my diet that I am reluctant to reveal to many people. (I swear that I don't have and have never had an eating disorder.) With any addictive foods that I crave, I no longer consume that food, but instead taste it and spit it out. My initial purpose in doing this was to decondition my food cravings. Someone told me that if you taste food without swallowing it on a number of successive occasions, then your perception of the flavor of the food will change. It will turn from pleasurable to neutral to distasteful. I tried it with one food item and it worked. In the past, whenever I would try to eliminate carbohydrates, sugar, or dairy from my diet, I would have unbearable cravings. Tasting and spitting out the food gave me a workable method to deal with those intense cravings.
I now know that the worms are the ones dictating my cravings. There were so many times when I would feel as though I was starving to death and desperately needed a carb fix. (But I didnít want any of the healthy non-addictive foods on my diet.) I was desperate for cheese, mayonnaise, bread and butter, or anything sweet. Well, it turns out that lots of agitated critters were actually starving to death. I know it sounds completely whacked, but I think that thereís something about tasting and spitting out these addictive foods, that is actually helping to kill these creatures. (Iíve wondered if my body secretes enzymes in anticipation of this rich or junky food, and then those enzymes digest the worms instead???)
I taste and spit out food generally twice a day. I sit at the table and spit food onto a plate. I usually try to wait about an hour after Iíve eaten a meal of healthy non-addictive food. I taste and spit food until I no longer have any more cravings. It is gross. But passing these huge amounts of worms is even grosser. My cravings have lessened a lot in the time that Iíve been doing it. I have continued to do it simply because it works for me in terms of parasite elimination. I have no idea if it would work for anyone else. Itís hard to recommend that any one try it, because it really is gross and aberrant behavior.
However, I do think that I have been clued in on what foods the roundworms like. I think that a non-addictive food diet would be really helpful for eliminating parasites even without the tasting and spitting component. I have been extremely motivated to stick to this diet because I really do not want to feed the worms. Most of the time it is black and white. Do I want to feed the worms or nourish myself?
The type of roundworm that I have LOVES all kinds of junk food, chips, candy, sweets, pastries, bread, pasta, crackers, potatoes, cereals, grains, sweets, milk, cream, butter, nuts, coconut products, cheese, sauces, salad dressings, mayonnaise, other oils, chocolate, honey, maple syrup, fruit juices, etcÖ
In addition, there are foods that I didnít particularly like, that I now think it is the worms that donít like those foods. Foods that I suspect are especially not good for the worms are carrots, turnips, parsnips, radishes, burdock root, beets, bitter or pungent greens, raw onions, and raw garlic. I try to eat as much of those foods as I can. (Itís hard for me to consume raw garlic and onions but I keep trying.)
I think it was on Clarkia ís website that I read that they said for Ascaris to avoid squash and pumpkin. I have not found this to be true. Sweet squash or sweetened pumpkin is not good. But I think that plain pumpkin or plain squash is okay. Also, many people think that coconut oil kills parasites, but I think that the worms that I have really like it.
When I was really sick with the worms 20 years ago I uncontrollably lost weight. But since Iíve been eliminating tons of worms I have been gaining weight. My diet is very low calorie (approximately half the calories that I use to consume), but Iíve been steadily gaining. I really donít want to be gaining weight, but highest priority at this point is to do whatever I have to do to eliminate these worms. Iíve lost so much of my life to them. They have been a huge oppressive force. Plus the medical establishmentís denial of them only adds to that oppression. Even though Iím doing this crazy diet and passing crazy amounts of worms, I feel like it is ultimately leading me to a clearer, saner, healthier, and freer place.
I like your way of thinking, I also liked the list of foods you mention.."carrots, turnips, parsnips, radishes, burdock root, beets, bitter or pungent greens, raw onions, and raw garlic.""
some of the best food you can eat for worms, you might want to add sweet potatoe to the list, they hate this vegy!! also i wouldnt leave out pineapple or pomegranite, both said to kill worms, mostly tapeworms.
One little secret I found out good for killing Ascaris is Sesame oil on empty stomach in the morning, you might want to try this...also honey isnt good BUT honey mixed with raw apple cider vinegar (braggs) is a really good worm vermifuge..
Hi cuzjay, I saw some pictures that you posted and thought that you had roundworms too. I bet that the mucus that you pass is probably decayed roundworms. I hope that you can get rid of that worm in your eye.
It seems like there are lots of remedies that combine something the worms like with something that kills them. I wonder if that is the mechanism by which my diet works. Also it might be why the vinegar and honey works. Also, I've heard some people take garlic with milk for the same reason.
I use raw apple cider vinegar a lot. And my husband is a beekeeper so we have lots of high quality honey. But I think I'm going to keep avoiding the honey for now. I'm ordering some valbazen from valleyvet.com. They have it on sale for a really good price right now.
That's interesting about the sweet potato. I haven't been sure about it. What makes you think that they hate it?
ēCarrots, sweet potatoes, and squash are some foods that are rich in beta carotene, a precursor for vitamin A. Vitamin A is thought to increase resistance to penetration by larvae. Vitamin C and zinc also support the immune system
One night while sick a few weeks ago i ate sweet potatoe for first time in many months, and had pains all over my body, then next few days had little red bumps showing up on my skin thhat were itchy, I think they were dead eggs/larvae for suree..
O i payed $40 for my valabazen.. how much did u end up spending??
for the stool issue, ya seems like i always see like casings(looks like clear pieces of skin) or mucous in my stool, and sometimes its very hard liek a rock but very small stools, almost like rabbit lol
The valbazen usually sells for around $40. They have it on sale for $33 plus free shipping.
If you're passing lots of worms I suggest that you do whatever you can to get and keep your bowels moving better. I had the small hard stool problem until I started doing small frequent enema flushes. Some folks take lots of herbal laxatives instead. I figure you got to do whatever you can to get all that dead worm stuff out.
Amazing! Believe it or not, my experience has been so similar to yours, including the amount of worms coming out as well as not being able to pass them without flushing (enemas)! The varying descriptions you included of the worms at differing stages also match up exactly to what I myself have seen and I too, after 3 months am seeing more 'material' come out than actual worms.
Kudos for finding the right diet to maintain the elimination when you are not on the prescription drugs. Today is my last day on HumaWorm and I am afraid that they will gain the advantage again (according to the product website, I have to wait 90 days before restarting). I am taking Black Seed Oil everyday, which is what alerted me in the first place to having worms (it's a great vermifuge), so I will certainly continue that, but otherwise, haven't found the right foods that eliminate them. I follow an extremely healthy, unrefined, chemical-free, whole foods organic diet, as I have for the majority of my life. However, like you, I believe I've been carrying these worms for a good portion of that time (at least 20 years given the various stages of illness I've been through), so I don't have much faith that my 'clean' diet will suffice. Perhaps there is a Chinese or Ayurvedic formula without the cloves, Black Walnut , wormwood that I can switch to safely in the interim.
Thanks so much for posting in detail about your experience and good luck with your continued cleansing!
She has a lot of good info on dealing with large quantities of roundworms. Also, I think that she used a variety different herbal formulas, some of which I think were Ayurvedic.
Are you in the US? If so and if you wanted to talk on the phone, I'd be open to that. There are so few people that have such a huge quantity of roundworms. Have you had any luck with doctors or alternative health practitioners? I wonder if we've had similar health issues?
Affirming indeed ytoldoak! I was just telling my boyfriend last night how much better I feel knowing that there is someone out there who is going through the same thing. Even when I see all these worms coming out of me (and thus know that I am doing the right thing), I often feel so defeated, not knowing what I'm up against and not having the support of a doctor guiding me along. Thanks for the link to the posting about roundworms. I'll check it out shortly.
There is a ton of information available online about Black Seed (Nigella Sativa). It is well known throughout the Middle East for expelling and killing parasites. I started seeing worms come out immediately after taking 1 teaspoon of the oil per day. I now combine the oil with the seed (ground up) and take tem with some raw honey (it comes out to approx. 1/2 teaspoon of each ingredient). I too was doubtful of the honey but this is the traditional way it has been administered for hundreds of years and it seems to work (probably because parasites love it so much!).
I would enjoy speaking with you on the phone and hearing more about your experience. I'm in Virginia and will email you my contact information.
I haven't had any luck with the medical profession, as they so readily dismiss even the idea of having parasites. I did my first parasite cleanse about 10 years ago, after reading Dr. Clark's book. When I started seeing them come out, I went to my doctor to have a stool test done, which of course came back negative. I then brought him a sample of the worms and he promptly sent it to a lab. It came back as 'unknown'. He then sent more samples to the CDC. The diagnosis was "organ shedding". Since humans are not known to shed their organs and I didn't have any symptoms of 'wasting', my doctor then arranged for a researcher at NIH to examine one of the worms. I actually hand-carried the sample to the NIH researcher and watched him examine it under a microscope. He then looked up at me and said, "Maam, the only possibility is an impossibility. Your organs are shedding."
My doctor, who practiced integrative medicine at the time, felt almost as defeated as I did, and advised me to continue with the parasite cleanse. My mother also ordered some parasite medication from overseas (mebendazole), of which I took one round. Between the herbs and the synthetic drug, my health steadily improved but unfortunately I didn't continue with any sort of maintenance program and clearly became infested once again. It wasn't until a few months ago, when my bowels became blocked that I started again with the black seed (it was actually my boyfriend who in a way suggested/reminded me of it because I was saying that I would try some flax seed oil to get things moving but he heard 'black seed oil' which of course reminded me that it was probably parasites causing the problem).
Since then, I have waged an all out assault on these hitchhikers, and have, like you, passed so many worms and worm-like material. At least several per day. I think that I am also now passing tumors (which seem to be used as cocoons for their homes), as I am starting to see masses of white shredded kleenex-type material come out with the ACV enemas (I saw a picture of this stuff on another curezone post, and the person attributed it to yeast. This is certainly possible but how much yeast could a person have? I also read on a Cancer Forum about someone seeing the same stuff and her doctor said it was a dying tumor.) The journey has been extremely challenging and debilitating, as I often feel weak and have had several episodes of paralyzing cramps which have prevented me from being able to walk or even sit up. Fortunately, they are getting shorter in their duration--only lasting a few minutes now. I do look and feel much healthier though so I know that I'm on the right path.
Thanks again ytoldoak and I look forward to speaking with you soon!
I've passed lots of white shredded kleenex-type material, too. On occasion I've passed something that is wider and sheet like and not shredded. I really think that most of the stuff that I pass is decayed worm material in different forms. I think that the dead worms can build up in layers, and the live worms hold the layers in place like nesting material. Also, worms die at different ages and from different places. Perhaps some of the stuff could be intestinal lining that is shedding. But I'd bet most of it is worms and not your organs!
I'm very familiar with what vaginal yeast looks like and this stuff is very different. Plus, I'm not having a yeast problem at all right now, so I don't think the stuff is yeast.