I haven't seen anything from #133264 as spiteful or over the top as what has come out of the mouths of his antagonist!
This is a debate forum, one should at least expect if you can't respect another point of view !!!!
I tried to have a polite discussion with this guy. I would be interested in any information on men who had late in life circumcisions and were happy with them. I have looked and did not find anything. Other info, for or against circumcision, has its place in a debate. He said I was full of crap and then got crude. That is not debating that is some one being an a**ho**. Being rude or insulting is not debating. Being a loud mouth who has no experience with the matter and posting just makes you an idiot.
I can see how a man who was circumcised at birth might be fine with it. It depends on the circumcision. How much skin is left and whether there were any complications. Apparently if you had fore skin and lost it at twenty you would really be disappointed and depressed. My brother, who had a better circumcision than I did still complained a little. Imagine if a doctor did an unnecessary procedure on you and then said, you can walk maybe even run, but you will have very little feelings in your legs and it is going to hurt a little. They screw up circumcisions like that or worse. I had a festering infection on my pecker for almost a week and it took away most of the joy of sex so I am a little bitter. Infections like that kill babies all the time.
I read the thread , he did tell you you were full of crap but only after you insulted him first! Don't dish it out if you can't take the same!
I think his points are just as valid as yours ! Fact is I have never heard any man or boy who complained about being circumcised but I have seen problems with young boys who were not!
You think I insulted him first? He presumed to judge my emotional and physical state and told me to move on. Ok no problem. I merely challenged his stance with known facts about circumcision and he kept on taking a personal tone and refused to discuss the facts. Then he said I was full of crap. The guy did not want to discuss facts and kept on trying to piss me off. I decided it was pointless to debate.
What you said is exactly what I am interested in. "I have never heard any man or boy who complained about being circumcised but I have seen problems with young boys who were not!" You should post where you found this information for people to view if you want to debate. Otherwise don't say it if you can't back it up.
lol! No my young cousin or my fathers younger brother who suffered from constant infections under his foreskin never published their experiences! This is my point ,you accentuate the negative and the minority, those have never experienced what you have and have no problems whatsoever are the majority and it would be highly unlikely you will find them publishing their experiences!
Your point of view despite your advantage of those minorities who have published does not in anyway discredit his point of view! You my friend are the exception not the rule!
I grant you that there are those cases were men benefited from circumcision. I question what percentage of those cases exist. My Uncle was born in europe, was never circumcised and never had an infection his whole life. Medical associations are unanimous in the agreement that there is no substantial benefit from circumcision. If I guy got circumcised and heard this debate why would he not make a youtube video saying how the operation fixed his problem or improved his sex life? They should be just as vocal as you or anyone else. Why not pole the men in the UK and see if they have any problems. I have heard from many in the UK that infections are almost unheard of. Still a proper pole is in order. From the testimonies and medical studies I have seen I am leaning in the direction of believing there are no significant medical benefits. If genital mutilation occurs it is heinous crime. There is not much more I can say on this thread.
In recent news, researchers from Uganda and the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine have found an interesting correlation between circumcision and STDs. After previously discovering that the rate of HIV infection dramatically decreased for the almost 2,000 Ugandan men – from a random group of 4,000 – who underwent circumcision for the study, the same researchers decided to evaluate their samples in regards to three other STDs: herpes, HPV, and syphilis. What they found was that for those who had been circumcised, the rate of herpes decreased by a quarter, HPV decreased by a third, but the rate of syphilis was the same.
Scientists attribute these findings to the fact that the foreskin is a moist, mucosal surface (much like a woman’s vagina), making it a fertile breeding ground for viral infections. By removing the foreskin there may be less risk of viruses sticking to the penis and replicating in its warm, moist environment. I think it’s interesting to note that syphilis, a bacterial infection, is not affected by the removal of foreskin, which means that an uncircumcised penis, though more prone to viral infections, is no more affected by bacteria than a circumcised penis. I am surprised because I thought bacteria would have the same reaction as viruses.
You should know that study has been refuted by most every Medical society. In fact, the USA has the hightest amount of circumcised men and the highest amount of hiv stds in modern countries. Circumcision may there fore increase the amount of stds.
I think this your problem. You and the others continue to make unsubstantiated claims! I have not seen one link or source from any of you! Refuted??? Where??? When????
methinks he likes the double standard.
notice how he got on my case for not producing links to backup any claims.
Yet, he has no problem doing that himself.
Hypocrite?
Maybe.
Personally, I think this whole circumcision issue has gone to his head...
I'm starting to think you are right! He asks for opinions then just denounces them! First I gave him an anecdotal real life experience response, which wasn't good enough for him, then a real study he just blows off without any substantial source references!
I think he was enjoying the female attention talking about his weener to tell you the truth! lol!
I do love how the females want to dismiss our input as if they are the weenie experts here! lol Maybe they are!
No Medical association recommends circumcision. They have looked at arguments for and against it. No one is trying to victimize you for your position.
STDs and infections are not significantly reduced by circumcision. That is the conclusion of every Medical association.
You can find a few people to support you with their circumcision experience and some studies as well but they are few and it is not enough to persuade most doctors or me or a lot of people who have looked at most of the evidence out there.
I half way expected to find at least one guy on youtube who would say circumcision was great for him but i got nothing as opposed to a hundred guys who flat out hated it.
I find anonymous guys blogging about how circumcision is good which really makes me wonder. Why do the studies and reports for circumcision seem biased and have holes in them when subjected to pier review?
You can be juvenile and insult me or deal with the facts, I don't care.
Well you certainly haven't proven anything at all then have you? Lot of mythology lots of unsubstantial claims!
Like I said you are the exception ,I have no doubt about that!
I'm sorry you suffered from a botch procedure ,these things happen but for the most part what you and these other people have claimed proves nothing. 99.99% of circumcised men do not suffer from any of yours or their ludicrous clams!
I wont be disrespectul with your suffering but I have had most of my life a circumcized penis and I HAD orgams and I HAD libido. Yeah, I was antisocial and now I have anorgasmia but that has much more to do with vaccines, aluminum, chemtrails, autism,hormones, central nervous system etc Every problem I have its explained by my test results.
I personally feel much more comfortable with my "numb" penis. When I was a child I couldnt properly masturbate and it was common to have an intense pain because my sensitive glans would touch the toilet or whatever. The sensations decreased, yes, but wasnt complete or horrible. I mean I really had FIMOSIS, I couldnt put it down, so I hadnt choice...
Well, who knows I have to say its true that I remember the pleasure was a lot greater with a normal penis, but very uncomfortable because I just couldnt put down the foreskin... But the point I wanted to make its that its not true that with circumcision you lose so much sensivity etc you still have good orgasms and arousal as I had until I developed autoinmunity etc
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