I have been doing Iodine Therapy for about 6 weeks now. I began with Iodoral but after 3 weeks switched to Magnascent because the Iodoral was too harsh and was giving me many side effects. Dosage has been 6 drops of 2% Magnascent a day for the last 3 weeks. The Magnascent is much more effective and has produced no side effects. However, over the last 4-5 days lumps began to form just above my ankles and wrists. First above my left ankle, then the right, then both wrists.
The left ankle lump is quite large and solid with a visible and pronounced protrusion in the middle of it. The other lumps are smaller and must be touched to be detected. there is a curious symmetry in their anatomical placement and in the order in which they appeared.
The Iodine has consistently produced detoxifying reactions, though mostly mild in nature, I do consider these lumps to be a part of the detox process - and the most dramatic effect so far. They are clearly some kind of tumor or cyst and are most likely benign.
I plan on continuing with the Magnascent Iodine but I would love to hear any feedback, suggestions, thoughts or any personal experiences you may have had with this kind of detox reaction.
I have had the same thing happen! There is one on each wrist...the right and the left... How do we go about eliminating these??? They are hard and they seem to increase and decrease in size. If this is toxins moving out then will they resolve themselves?
Hypothyroid symptoms? Health issues? The reason that I'm asking is that one of many symptoms of hypothyroid is elevated deposition of mucin in the connective tissue. And, a theory as far as the etiology of ganglion cysts(assuming these are ganglion cysts) is that "Joint stress causes mucin to be produced by the live cells in the soft tissue which coalesce into pools of mucin which then forms a fibrous cystic wall around itself." Conjecture on my part is that not only could joint stress lead to these cysts, but that also the well- established elevated(in hypothyroidism) deposition of mucin in the connective tissue could play a part.
Excellent page on hypothyroid symptoms, follow link for complete text:
"The cleansing of cellular debris and increased activation of enzymes are among the main functions of thyroid hormones. Most of the connective tissue diseases, including rheumatoid arthritis, polymyositis, amyloidosis, and lupus, are associated with the deposition of mucin in the connective tissues. Deposition of mucin in connective tissues is the hallmark of hypothyroidism."
Thyroid hormones are made up of iodine and tyrosine. Perhaps your thyroid hormones are able to do their cellular cleansing chores more efficiently at this time... ?
Broda Barnes basal temperature test for hypothyroidism:
The short answer is no one is really sure. What is known is that they are benign soft tissue growths that usually appear at the wrist, but can occur at virtually any joint. Under a microscope, a ganglion cyst consists of loosely oriented sheets of fibrous tissue with a few live cells to maintain and repair the fibrous tissue layers. They are filled with a gelatinous material that resembles synovial fluid, the fluid that lubricates joints, but is thicker and the components are in different proportions than in synovial fluid. Ganglion cysts are connected to joints by tortuous pedicles, or stalks.
Theories abound regarding how the ganglion cyst developed. Originally, they were thought to be simple herniations, or out-pouchings, of the lining of a joint, but as there is no synovial lining present within the cyst on microscopy, this is unlikely. They have also been postulated to be due to chronic inflammation, or irritation of the joint, but likewise there are none of the typical cellular inflammatory changes in a ganglion cyst, making this theory unlikely as well. Three of the most plausible theories are: 1) The capsular rent theory: A tear forms in the joint capsule, the fibrous coat of a joint sealing it off from outside tissue and keeping synovial fluid in the joint. This may be due to poor functioning of the joint leading to areas of weakness in the capsule. Some of the synovial fluid leaks out, eventually forming a cystic wall of fibrous tissue around itself. 2) The mucioid degeneration theory: Joint stress leads to degeneration of the connective tissue (soft tissue) near a joint causing fluid accumulation and formation of a fibrous cyst around the fluid. 3) The mucin secretion theory: Joint stress causes mucin to be produced by the live cells in the soft tissue which coalesce into pools of mucin which then forms a fibrous cystic wall around itself.
None of these theories completely explain all the elements and behaviors of a ganglion cyst.
So how does a ganglion cyst behave?
As stated above, a ganglion cyst (about 80-90% of them) forms around the wrist. 60-70% form on the back of the wrist, 13-20% form on the palmar side of the wrist. They are small, usually only 0.5-1 inch (1-2 cm) across. They feel firm and rubbery, and are not mobile i.e. do not move under the skin when manipulated, indicating that they are tethered (the tether being the stalk that attaches them to a joint). Sometimes they cause pain, sometimes not. They can cause aching that radiates up the arm with activity or manipulation of the cyst. On the palmar side of the wrist, they can cuase numbness or tingling due to compression of nerves. They may also decrease range of motion of the wrist due simply to their size, and may even decrease grip strength.
Castor oil packs are one of my favorite medicines of all time.They are great for many different kinds of conditions & musculoskeletal pain including: back pain, joint pain, muscle tension (like doing it on the neck & shoulders for a tension headache), ganglion cysts, menstrual cramps, constipation (used topically over the belly) and for many other things.
When not to use castor oil: - do not use over burns, open wounds, mucous membranes, or rashes - discontinue if you should experience any irritation or rash - internal usage can cause severe diarrhea (I don't recommend it!)
What you will need: - castor oil – good quality oil from health food store not the drugstore - - (some drugstore castor oils may have toxic hexanes in them) - flannel (cotton flannel is best) - heat: heating pad or hot water bottle
Directions: - cover affected area with a thick layer of castor oil - cover with flannel - cover with a heating pad - relax for 30-40 minutes - wipe off excess oil with a damp cloth - can be done daily or even multiple times a day
Alternative: If using with an acute injury where heat cannot be applied, cover the skin over the affected area with a thick layer of castor oil and cover with plastic wrap, do not apply heat
Remember – when in doubt (& except for the above cautions) – throw a castor oil pack on it!
Castor oil has been used therapeutically for hundreds of years, both internally and externally. Applied topically, it has many beneficial effects in a wide range of conditions. Almost 90% of its fatty acid content consists of ricinoleic acid. Such a high concentration of this unusual, unsaturated fatty acid is thought to be responsible for castor oil's healing abilities.
The easiest way to use castor oil is to massage it into the body on the problem spot, along the spinal cord, the abdomen, or following the lymph drainage patterns. For superficial problems, topical application without using theheating pad is usually sufficient. It can also be taken internally, but is a strong laxative and is used to treat constipation. Despite being a simple procedure, the castor oil pack can produce good results.
For the strongest effect, use a hot oil pack. Physiological effects of the castor oil pack include stimulating the liver, increasing eliminations, relieving pain, increasing lymphatic circulation, improving gastrointestinal function, increasing relaxation and reducing inflammation.
Three layers of natural, uncolored wool or flannel cotton large enough to cover the area being treated
Plastic wrap large enough to cover the cloth
Hot water bottle or electric blanket
Soak cotton with castor oil. It should be saturated but not dripping
Place the pack on the area being treated, for example lower right abdomen (liver)
Cover the pack with plastic wrap and place a hot water bottle or electric heating pad over the pack
Leave the pack on for 30-60 minutes. Use the castor oil pack 3-7 days per week
Precautions include avoiding meal times, not using the pack during heavy menses, and avoiding contact with fabric that could become stained. The same pack may be used for weeks or months. Refresh with additional oil if necessary.
Conditions which have been responsive to castor oil applications include:
Seeing "sebaceous cyst" on wombat's list of things castor oil is good for, reminded me about using iodine on sebaceous cysts. Specifically, Dr. Jonathan Wright suggested dabbing SSKI (saturated solution of potassium iodide) on a cyst, then following with a coat of DMSO to carry the iodine beneath the skin. No reason not to use the Lugol's you already have. Use Lugol's topically right over these places on your wrists and ankles. As soon as you can, get some DMSO to help the process. It's amazing how much faster skin problems will heal with the combo. That includes pimple breakouts on the face if you detox bromine that way.
I'm using Iodine to improve my immune system because of hypothyroidism. I have systemic candida (having a difficult time with memory), fibroids, polyps, Amalgams which I am trying to get better before I have them taken out, and can't seem to raise my basal temperature. The candida and viruses are getting the best of me so I doubled the dosage recently.
I currently taking 16 drops of 2 percent iodine. I was taking Iodorol, 8 of the 12 mcg tablets but prefer the drops...it is Lugol's.
I'm also trying to alkalize but I also have gallstones, so that is not going so well either...
Yes, those are exactly the cysts that I have my each wrist...one is smaller, the other has gotten larger on the right and seems to be causing intermittent pain.
Regarding elimination problems, I am having problems with my kidneys but did a recent kidney flush and that helped. I'm sure it is from an overly congested liver...
High On Water - Elimination functions are excellent. Kidneys need help, especially adrenals but I'm doing everything I can in that regard. Thanks for your concern and comments.
Iolite - Good call. I think this is correct and they are most likely Ganglion Cysts. The only possible discrepency being that the ankle lumps are a good 1-2 inches above the ankle joint and are located right on top of the shin bone itself. The wrist lumps are a good 3 inches above the wrist joint.
I am already taking Zeolite Clay (ZeoForce by HealthForce Nutritionals)and plenty of Vitamin D. I thought about Castor Oil but my experience with it so far has not yielded much benefit. However I have not tried the Castor Oil Pack procedure yet. I am more inclined to use DMSO along with another substance but not sure exactly what yet.
livelaughlovefaith - It's good to know I'm not the only one!! I have had similar long term battles with Candida and viruses.
Wombat - I do not have Hypothyroidism, but I did show many signs of low Iodine and Bromide Dominance. Those theories are very interesting and I will keep them in mind.
just thinking - I have been considering the Iodine/DMSO approach. I am a little concerned about mixing the elemental iodine in the Lugol's with the DMSO and getting some kind of unpredictable compound but perhaps the SSKI would work well.
I am going to try and get my dosage of 2% Magnascent up to 10 drops per day. Iodine should be an effective therapy for cysts in and of itself. I am also going to try topical DMSO along with another substance, possibly Iodine...
Thank you all for the great comments, it is much appreciated - and please keep them coming! I will continue to post the progress.
I have been doing Iodine Therapy for about 6 weeks now. I began with Iodoral but after 3 weeks switched to Magnascent because the Iodoral was too harsh and was giving me many side effects. Dosage has been 6 drops of 2% Magnascent a day for the last 3 weeks. The Magnascent is much more effective and has produced no side effects.
I have a few questions for you:
1. How much Iodoral were you doing?
2. What was harsh about it and what were the side effects?
3. What is more effective about the magnescent?
4. Are you doing the salt pushes?
5. Are you doing all the companions?
Okay after further research in trying to figure out why these cysts were developing on me, I think I have it. In addition to the cysts I was not sleeping, insomnia had worsened since starting the iodine. I've been reading these boards for months (about six), and in one of the posts Newport said something about Iodine displacing calcium. That said,I was already calcium deficient because I had insomnia and hyperthyroidism which I think is related to a calcium deficiency.
Furthermore, for calcium to be absorbed into the body, you need vitamin D3 and MUCH MORE MAGNESIUM and Vitamin C. In addition, I have been trying to increase calcium absorption because magnesium and calcium are the two most alkaline minerals so increasing absorption of those, increases alkalinity... Based on the cancer tutor site, it says Magnesium 600 mg...so I take that along with half as much calcium.
For the last new days, I have been using Vitamin D3 and twice as much magnesium as calcium, I take these supplements with fresh lemon juice to increase absorption. This has worked, and not only have I noticed that the insomnia is better, the calcifications...that we are calling cysts...are starting to shrink a bit.
1. Up to 50 mg/day
2. Primarily I felt very wired and jittery on the Iodoral along with intense headaches and joint pain.
3. I can take Magnascent and go right to sleep. I often take it in the middle of the night. I still get all the detox symptoms but they are more tolerable and I feel more mellow and relaxed about it. 6 drops per day of 2% means I am only consuming 2.4 mg of Iodine. At that dosage I experience the Iodine benefits along with the detox symptoms that would require a much higher dosage of Iodoral - making it more efficient.
Just be clear, I totally support you doing whatever works for you. That is bottomline regardless of what else I might say.
If your detox symptoms lessen you may consider raising you dose whether with magnescent or with sski or Iodoral. The reason I mention this is the time to balance the other halides may be a very long time.
Brownstein mentions in his book that he got his best results with clients when he started getting to 12.5mg Iodoral and above.
He personally took 50mg of Iodoral for 4 years before his bromide level dropped to a low level and he monitored it regularly.
4 years! Ouch. Getting a copy of his book has been on my to-do list for some time - you just made it a priority.
From an article about Dr. Brownstein:
"Dr. Brownstein said he was using 200-300 mg with his prostate and Breast Cancer patients, and those who have metastases needing the highest dosages. He also uses both Lugol’s and Nascent reserving the Nascent for his more sensitive patients. There is also the tablet form of varying dosages (Iodoral), which is used by more than several of the Iodine doctors I know."
I would describe myself as one of the more sensitive patients. My theory is that my adrenal fatigue makes me particularly sensitive to metabolic stimulants. Whenever I push for higher dosages it ends up burning me out - like I've had too much coffee. That being said, I do think I am capable of tolerating higher doses and will continue walking that razor's edge of increasing the dose without getting overwhelmed with detox symptoms.
Have you ever tried the Magnascent personally? Would be curious to know your experience in comparing it to Iodoral. Magnascent doesn't make it explicit on their website but if you look in the FAQ section they state that you may try a 1/2 ounce or 1 ounce bottle with a 30 day money back guarantee.
In order to help expedite Bromide detox I have stopped consuming all seafoods, all nuts, brominated flour etc.
For Fluoride no tea, gelatin, fluoridated water & toothpastes...
If you're concerned about Calcium then look into vitamin K2. It's the nutrient that most people miss when it comes to Calcium. Vitamins A, D, and K all work together. Vitamin K activates and regulates the other two.
I have some magnescent at home but I have only tried it a couple of times, so I don't have enough experience to comment for you there. I know Trapper loves it and he WAS basically making his own version. He isn't making that anymore I believe, at least for the time being anyway.
I guess for me since I keep testing my bromide and it keeps going up I figure I am playing the numbers game....I have to pump enough Iodine/ Iodide in me over time to balance/force out the other halogens, and I would prefer to hasten that process as much as I can without pushing my liver or kidneys too hard. And I have noticed I do better at higher doses. So i am currently taking 150mg of Iodoral daily, and some sski too.
So see how are doing over the next several weeks or so and maybe you play with upping your dose, or adding in some iodoral or lugol;s or sski........
The great part with Iodine is usually your detox symptoms will diminish in several days if you overdo it......