data can be stolen. wonder if china and russia have it yet?
this kind of behaviour is wrong on many levels, but the most disturbing is that the studies, both in britain and the US, are preparations for war against us! the dynamics are quite different in other countries and cultures.
nope, i am just on a personal mission. internet access will continue to be spotty for a while. i am gonna try to catch up a little these next couple of days. i am in KC for the moment.
how ironic is that american citizens may have to depend on the Russian or Chinese governments to confront the U.S. government and thereby help the american people. It seems the more honest nations these days are the ones get demonized... same for ethnic groups and religious, ala, Islam. If fox news says that Muslims are evil, or that the Chinese are out to destroy the world, you should propably wonder how either might be interfering with the NWO in some way.
i hear that one, it is like living in the kingdom of the blind, and it sucks physically. i've been using ala, and it's helping.
Also lots of prunes. Cheap, and they work.
i guess I've come to terms that i'm stuck in florida, and i've started chelating- I think they are switching tactics here far fewer identifiable chemtrails, but days with a whole lot of airplane activity, then everyone gets sick.
sorry about it though, and i know how it feels.
julie77
if by "more honest" you mean more reality based, then i agree. they are still farms and no less ruthless underneath. when montags son recently returned from china he said, "this farm is still better." true for most but the veil keeps lifting and the gov gets more bold with less and less pretense.
it occurs to me that war really isnt the biggest thing we produce. i think its fantasy, both home and abroad.
A little off the discussion of the thread, perhaps, but I've been hearing this song lately; but then I saw the video. Really good analogy of fantasy VS reality.
I had to learn the hard way that sometimes the enemy of my enemy is just another enemy.
Like so many others on the american left, I really was convinced that mao and great leap forward was a good thing.
Not so, and not so now.
Tienamin square really did happen, and dissent in china is ssquashed by an iron fist.
Working conditions in China are beyond bad for the working folk, look up Foxconn. Rather than keeping slaves in housing under the family mansion as the Romans did, the workers who live in misery to support the us consumer do so half way around the world, and their situation is cemented in by force.
As far as environmental issues, or stuff like chem trails, they do it openly. Check out King Blumdidot's weather control program in Thailand, they don't even cover it up or lie about it.
China regulates it's population growth by limitiing the number of children in a family, and taxing those who don't comply.
You really think they are going to help us?
There is a hexagram in the i-ching that I think about a lot, which says that if you want to form a revolution, you had better be sure that you had something to replace the current system that would be better than what currently exsists, and that you personally have the temperment and the personal commitment to carry through, or you are only making bad matters worse.
i think everyone can agree that things are broken, the qestion is, what do to next?
julie77
Exactly. Curezone isn't a place where people put their money where their mouth is. We're so afraid of anyone knowing who we really are. What kind of revolution is that?
my comments were mostly sarcasm, which is hard to pick up on in text, I know. But, things do change over time. Having lived myself in china over long periods of time, i won't disagree with your comments... but will suggest a few things. communism was clearly an ideology created by zionists to accomplish certain global goes (goals). that stage of the game has largely run itself out. there are no communists in China anymore, and certainly not in Russia. Are their governments perfect? of course not, just different. but militarily, they appear in opposition to the NWO. and while the enemy of my enemy may not be my friend, they may throw down with my enemy, and therefore, are not my enemy. China itself has a real NWO problem as well as international corporations have infiltrated and control large areas of the country, the same problem we have in the U.S. Foxconn is an international monster, and I would love to know who really controls it. the problem with corporations, it can be hard to tell. that said, I do not think that the NWO has as much control inside the chinese or russian governments as in the U.S. and European governments. but, all speculation, and I am sure that the scheming is constant. Russia, for example, recently locked up some the oligarchs who robbed that country blind under Yelstin. they just need to finish the job, hand the rest of them, and stand up the U.S., Europe and Isreal.
I certainly won't disgree with a hidden elite, having lived with the results of the gulf spill for the last year. April 20, also Hitler's birthday.
It is hard to find the equivalent of a foxconn, only the ancient societies which didn't bother to hide absolute brutality.
Foxconn isn't traded in the US, no sec filings. It's based in Taiwan, and it trades on the Taiwanese stock exchange,
Quote follows; http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=2354:TT#
Also, it's problems have directly affected the entire us stock market, both foxconn deaths, the explosions, and the suicides, caused sell-offs in Apple stock, Aapl is such a big component of the Nasdaq that a drop in price affects the index, the Nasdaq has been the driver for us equities since the crash.
The last explosion came at a perfect time to tank a market rally- you may not have noticed but the markets have been tanking for the last few weeks, May 20- foxconn explosion- the S&P was bullish, in a formation indicating a continued upward movement. From the dates, i guess the explosion occured on a weekend or a friday when the market was closed. First trading day following the explosion, a down day. Now the market is volitile, people I respect worry about a crash.
China and the US are so tightly connected economically, and so adversarial, that I worry.
I don't know how to dig out information on the Taiwan stock market, I'll look into it, there must be records somewhere.
all I can say, is that it ALWAYS floats to the surface, sometimes it just takes time.
to find the individuals truly behind Foxconn is probably not possible. Even if traded on an exchange in Asia, the largest shareholders are probably strawmen or trusts, whose principals are hidden. just from looking for a few minutes on the net I see that foxconn itself is just a holding company, a conglomerate. so who knows who really is in control. Its probably a safe bet that behind most corporations you find the same NWO a-holes.
it's traded in the us on otc pink sheets, but that means no sec filings.
It's a brutal ugly enterprise.
I keep wanting some of the apple executives transfered to foxconn as foxconn assembly line workers.
That would mean no more outsourceing us jobs, gee, we'd have to pay more for stuff.
i've never been able to buy an apple product, but i suspect that avioding anything manufactured by foxconn or it's equivalents is pretty hard to do.
I wish someone would make a movie about it, blood diamond did a lot to clean up the gem business, sorry it left out gems from myanmar.
julie77
not easy to find the truth. try to figure out who really owns the largest U.S. banks. even reading SEC filings won't give up a clear answer. but what you can discern in that the five largest banks in the US own a huge percentage of the stock of forture 500 corporations. all one big happy luciferian family.
Here is another one to think about- now regular people own mutual funds in their retirement accounts. Everything is traded electonicaly.
Where are all those stock ownership certificates?
legally, you are issued a certificate of ownership.
Where are they all stored?
It's rather like the bank forclosures where 1 in 15 people only had to go to court and say, morgage, what morgage, I don't own you a dime, let me see your signature.
The banks could not produce proof, end of story. Everything had been lost because so much was bundled, sold, and carelessly documented.
and yes the banks own stock, manipulate the market and profit either way- look at gs.
what do you expect?
What would work better? look at iceland during and after thier currency default, the people who suffered the most were not the bankers.
And we are not iceland, we have lots of resources that others would like to get & we owe money to emerging asian economies, who will not be as forgiving as the europeans.
If we just let the whole thing collapse, we will get invaded.
And then who suffers?
The US has gone though some very bad periods, and recovered, the civil war, and then ww2- my mother who recently passed told me that the twin towers were more firghtening than pearl harbor.
Whenever I think my life is tough, I think about my ancestors, who went through very much more, i'm named for a woman who literally walked accross the great plains at the age of 8. American is where it is because of the sacrifice of many, and it is not without possibility of redemption.
i've been a silversmith for the last 20 years, and my take on precious metals is not what most people's is, you can't eat it, it's not all that easy to sell or trade, and if you want to exhange it for something, it isn't always that easy. The other person has to think they are getting something of value, and you have to keep them from stealing it from you.
A gold standard has it's drawbacks, countries with a lot of gold in the ground kept getting invaded, for instance.
Theft is a problem. It would have been far simpler for the US to stay on the gold standard, and a lot has been lost by abandoning it, but going back to it now also has it's issues.
Cutting corners won't get us into a better future, which is what everone really wants.
julie77
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