i was exposed to mold for months - not cool! ... doc blood test monday will reveal all i'm hoping. picking up some more antifungals and parasite remedies today - never felt more like a TJ sewer in my life
thanks everyone for taking the time
Peace
Miles
PS this stuff on my face is softening (maybe NOT basal cell??? i've been putting cocoanut oil and oregano i right on it... seems to be helping) - thanks again!
I actually bought the book from this website and it has been a lot of help to me. The woman's story is almost exactly like mine and this book has been amazing for me.
The book and the website both offer a lot of helpful tips. She outlines a really good diet to follow if you have been exposed to toxic mold. Pretty much a candida diet with a few modifications.
She goes over a lot of supplements as well and speaks very highly of something called Limu Moui. I actually started this about 3 weeks ago and it has helped me tremendously.
I moved out of my mold environment a little over 2 months ago and I was seeeing very very slow progress. After reading her book and starting the Limu Moui I see great improvements.
Keri
thanks so much for your feedback! i'm so glad to hear that you are feeling better because so much of what is available out there is scary (to insight panic and purchase)! i am beginning to feel better myself. i ordered the modifilan and also picked up some zeolite to pull any mycotoxins out of my body and yes progress has been slow but i think that the stuff inside of my face is literally dying out and coming out of my skin topically... scabby and a little gross but a good sign i think! get it OUT of me. i hate the idea of being a host, what a wake up call to action!
I am not fixed by any means but I am getting there slowly. I have finally come to accpet that it will take a very long time for my body to heal.
Do you know how long you were exposed to mold and what types of mold you were exposed to? You are not still in the environment are you?
I was living in an apartment for 2 and a half years but my symptoms only started the last 9 months of living there. After running from doctor to doctor I finally realized what I was dealing with. We had a mold inspector come out and he found high levels of stachybotrys and aspergillus - No good! We had to toss most of our stuff. Some stuff I couldn't bear to through away and we put it in plastic bins that we keep in the attic of our new place.
My husband was only slighly affected and one of my dogs got thyroid cancer - my vet suspects the mold to be the reason for this. It's so horrible.
I have been getting lots and lots of sunshine lately and that has helped a lot as well. The inital sweating causes a reaction but a couple days afterward I feel a lot better. Gotta get those toxins out anyway you can!
Keri
I was exposed for just over a year and a half or so i think ? hard to say. i had my own place and then moved in with my girlfriend. then moved out (and broke up) due to mold but then STUPIDLY moved back in (for love) before the real count was revealed. MY BAD! incidentally my X's X boyfriend developed thyroid cancer for the 3rd time while he lived there... not surprising. We broke up again because my girlfriend just COULDN'T believe that we had mold even AFTER the tests came back. i got 2 certified exams. she even paid rent while she was living someplace else because the landlord MADE her and is claiming that it was her negligence which contributed to the building's poor environmental quality. i'm the son of an architect so i KNOW what water damage looks like.... i will NEVER step foot in that place again... or go near that woman until she is living some place else.
we had a spore count of 1 for stachybotrys but because it is a HEAVY spore it was indicative of a serious infestation below the house( this was an AIRBORN count). we did have it there though. they had to replace the studs that held the place up and a lot of other wall areas but they haven't come close to doing the job right. there is a unit above the one i lived in that had a TERRIBLE water leak that kept happening over and over and he finally got it to stop leaking, but did NOTHING for the water damage.
the aspergillus count in the kitchen was up at 1200 and change - the bedroom was around 256 or so and the base count was 19 so we had significant counts - but i hear that they get up into the hundred thousands :( death! what were your scores?
my x GF was entirely unaffected, but the puppydog, cat, and i were all producing soft phlegmy green stools and (malabsorption) the cat had huge cyst removed from her ear ... she is living back there again and i shudder to think... it was "fixed" by the landlord but i know how much is wrong with that place. the guy is EVIL! he was BEGGING me to sue him on the phone telling me i wold lose after i FOUND the crud for him! telling me i needed permission to get the test performed ? ? ? F U DADDY!
do you recommend me tossing all of my clothes and beloved books away??? considering the spore count that is??? i guess i should but it would mean trashing YEARS of vintage childrens book searching and many many MANY new books i paid a lot for - perspective right??? that stuff is in storage and i'e been out about a month and a half now - UG
I'm not sure what the exact spore count was. I have the paperwork at home but I am at work right now so I can send it later.
We were living in a loft type of apartment in Queens, NY. The top floor was ground level - living room, kitchen, etc. Our bedroom was technically in the basement of the building. There was actually a door that led to the outside with some stairs coming off of the basement. When we moved in we saw that it had been concreted shut. When we asked the landlord why he said that a little water had come in under that door previously but had been cleaned up. That should have been our first alarm but we were naive and didn't pay any attention to it. About a year and a half after moving there we had a bad rainstorm and a bunch of water came in under that door regardless of it being cemented shut. It got pretty wet down there and we had to throw out a ton of stuff. Kept asking our landlord to get somebody to come out and clean it properly but of course...nobody did.
So I started getting sick about a month later. I had no idea what I had at the time. I went from doctor to doctor (probably close to 30 different doctors) and was in the emergency room 6 times in a 2 week period where OF COURSE they thought I was crazy :) I actually asked a doctor if it could be mold and he said no. Thanks doctor for steering me in the wrong direction when I actually had the answer :)
Needless to say I ended up finding an amazing doctor to help me through this and he suspected mold from the beginning. I was still in denial and he tried some different methods to help me. First thing he did was put me on the candida diet which helped my symptoms tremendously.
Then I feel like everything that happened afterward was divine intervention from God or something (and I'm not that religous of a person).
It was early March and I was literally at the end of rope. I couldn't take it anymore, I was crying every night, convinced I was slowly dying. I was looking online at apartments for some reason - something I hadn't done in a really long time. And I saw an amazing place. It's hard to move when you live in NYC and have 2 large dogs. There was a place online that was perfect for us with a huge backyard for the dogs. I showed my husband and he said something about how - we will be more serious about looking for a place when you get better. So I turned off the computer and walked downstairs into the bedroom to get something and stepped into a ton of water!! I said to myself...God is trying to show me something right now. So we contacted the owners of the other apartment, ended up getting it and had a move in date a few weeks later. As I was packing up a few last boxes in the closet, I pulled a box away from the wall and there was a ton of sticky black mold and the wall was all warped and wet. I couldn't believe it.
So when we told our landlord we were moving...he asked why and we told him that we had found a better place and we had just had too many problems with the apartment - water damage, flooding and whatnot. He was like - Is everything ok in the closet? This was before we had found it so we said yes. We saw our super the next day and he asked if everything was ok. We told him that we just had a lot of water damage and nothing was getting fixed. He also asked about the closet. Before we moved we were looking on the outside of the building to see where the water could be coming from and we found a huge hole in the foundation that lined up perfectly with our closet. So they both knew - Awesome!!
Anyway, we had the mold inspector come out before we left because I wanted confirmation. I think the basement had something like 1800 spores per cubic meter. I believe 600 of those were Stachybotrys and 1200 were Aspergillius (dont' know if I'm spelling those right). Upstairs had a lot too but not as much as the basement.
The doctor told me I'm probably more prone to having the mold affect me because I have previous medical issues. (Metal rods in my back from scoliosis surgery).
So it's been quite a ride. My dog has had to have her whole thyroid removed due to thyroid cancer but strangely the cancer is not showing up in her bloodwork at all - the vet believes it is mold related.
I'm currently following the diet in the book "Surviving Toxic Black Mold Syndrome" with a few modifications. My doctor has me on a rotation of grapefruit seed extract, oregano oil capsules and a probiotic. I take a lot of vitamins - C, D, P-5-P, Multivitamin, digestive enzymes, HCL capsules. I eat a ton of yogurt and actually made it homemade before I was able to tolerate organic from the store. I drink a cup of kefir a day. I take fish oil pills and sprinkle flax meal in just about everything. I eat lots and lots of greens - tons of raw spinach. And I started the Limu Moui about 3 weeks ago. I started taking 2 oz in the morning and 2 oz at night and upped it about a week ago to 3 oz in the morning and 3 oz at night. Oh yeah - and I get lots and lots of sunshine!!
I would recommend tossing anything that could be porous. This was the hardest part for me. I am a girl and I love my clothes :) In the long run I thought it would be better to be safe than sorry. We have spend thousands of dollars in new furniture and clothing. It's a hard thing to do but think about all the money you have put towards your health so far - why take the chance? Some things I could not throw out (from our wedding) so I put those in plastic bins in the attic. This part is completely up to you. You can do some research first if you are concerned but when you move you want to make sure you do not cross contaminate your new environment. Oh yes - and definitely get a HEPA air purifier and a dehumidifier if you do not already have one. You must keep the humidity down so more mold does not grow.
I hate this stuff!!
Sorry I just wrote a novel!
I just want to share my story in the hopes that I can help somebody else....
Keri
WOW! you DID just write a novel, but i love reading. it' amazing to hear about how many people just don't believe in the effect that this stuff can have on a person and their health. it is y exact experience too - but when you mention it to people who don't know about it they look like they are staring at a ghost...an absent look blankets their face for just a moment. my xgf and my x wife just don't get it at all. my x wife kept saying "phantom mold" to me like i was paranoid and ironically my xgf is fascinated with fungus. she can't stop reading about mycelium and how beneficial it is for consuming toxic chemicals and radioactive material, how it's the earth's first and all natural intelligent internet... but she doesn't get that something like this can make you feel INSANE, depressed, and then actually kill you if you wait too long to deal with it. lying in bed knowing that something is taking you down is SO hard. i was dumb enough to think that the "strict laws" here in CA would make our landlord DO something about it in good time, and naive enough to think that the xgf would help me convince him to take steps to remedy the situation. but she lived there for 9 years and was more a buffer for him than an advocate of my health. i couldn't understand how someone who loves me as much as i love her would just keep rolling her eyes at me every time i brought mold up. i was wrong. she would literally embarrass me in front of friends about it: pride. she paid rent the 2 months she was displaced during remediation and STILL isn't back in yet... talk about toxic relationships!!! that place needs to undergo MCH more restructuring than it has - a LOT!
thank you SO much for sharing your story. it sounds like i have it easy compared to what you had/have going on. i think that what i am faced with at present is parasites (yay worms), a leaky gut, and that i know is a time consuming prospect to consider reordering and nurturing back to health. i am not absorbing anything - all soft and all green but i have no phlegm to speak of so far as stools go thanks to a strict diet and a slew of antioxidants and probiotics ( this feels weird sharing it with a specific individual who i don't know - like you want to hear this??? ) - knowing that someone has come through it is a great help, like progress! you give me hope!!! can't thank you enough... i kept checking for your response :) BLESS YOU!!!
the crazy thing is - i feel like this is God intervening in my life too, just like you, but i am not specific to any one religion. Mom is Buddhist my Dad atheist - believes more in tequila and antibiotics than anything else on the planet or off of it. i'm betting that changes before he is gone ;) - but i really feel like this is a course correct moment in my life, it it's about completely trusting my own gut instinct unflinchingly. i'll NEVER doubt myself again in any situation for anyone! my x doubting me made me think of her as an enemy - sad!
i will toss things but if i can save my books i will. i hear that its possible to have some things cleaned. my library represents my entire self formed education after CalArts (where really they only teach kids about sex drugs and art culture). my books represent thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of search time - the clothes (as a man) i can leave. shirts khakis jeans easy peasy! i love target and the Gap!
i feel like a phoenix but my sinus still aches a bit... so does my gut and i'm stiff a little - but i'm really only into my first week and a half of VERY strict dieting - once i trash my clothing and move (this coming week - AGAIN) i bet i feel better and better. at that point i will eliminate the cross contamination window altogether.
thanks ever so much again for sharing your story and offering information and hope - i will grab that limu and the book this week when i am at my new (but still temp) address.
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