More Curezone politics

Now I have been banned from the Adrenal Support forum over these posts, which I do  not even see as a violation of TOS. There are  no attacks and no names mentioned on my part yet I still got banned for these:

 The product of pickling lime that the Moreless protocol suggest is not found in a hardware store next to the concrete. It is found in the food section

These are the same exact products just packaged differently.  There is not a caustic used in cement calcium hydroxide and a different used in food calcium hydroxide.  Calcium hydroxide is calcium hydroxide, and all of it can burn the skin and other tissues if it contacts the tissues in the presence of moisture.  This is a characteristic of ALL hydroxides since all hydroxides are caustic.  This is why there are warnings on the bags or containers warning against skin and eye contact.

and is used for pickling cucumber pickles. It is calcium hydroxide and used in many industres including building materials but because of its low toxicity and the mildness of its basic properties, it is widely used in the food industry.

Again, it is a caustic material, which is why when used to make various foods it is removed or neutralized before the food product is given to the public.  For example, you mentioned pickles. What else is used in making pickles?  That is right, vinegar (acetic acid), which neutralizes the caustic calcium hydroxide.

And as I pointed out in an earlier post hydroxides are also used to make hominy.  It is also used to treat other seeds/grains in a process called nixtamalization.  Again though the hydroxides are removed or neutralized in the final product before giving them to the public due to the dangers of ingesting hydroxides.  If you want to read more on the process here is a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixtamalization

Not likely.  The most common calcium source used in supplements is calcium carbonate because it is the cheapest calcium available, even less costly than calcium hydroxide.  The only reason they would even consider using calcium hydroxide in a baby formula would be to adjust the pH of a solution back to a neutral or near neutral pH if the formula contains acidic ingredients.

 when someone effectively cures themself of MS, the correct response is either 'congratulations' or 'how did you do it', assuming that you are not familiar with the protocol they used.

Being that I don't recall seeing anyone claim a cure of MS in this thread why would I have said either one of those?

anything else just makes you look bad.

Because I did not respond to something in a way you think I should have over something that was never said?

when you start equivocating and speculating about the amount of lemon juice or this or that, you are just digging your own hole deeper and deeper.

No I am not. Not even close.  I am simply bringing up some very basic, solid facts about the chemistry involved and the potential dangers.  Let me take this to the other extreme to give you an example.  What if someone said drinking sulfuric acid would cure everything?  But then they say if you add some calcium hydroxide to neutralize the sulfuric acid it will all of a sudden make it safe to ingest.  Would you try it?  Are you going to 100% certain that you will put enough calcium hydroxide in to the solution as to not eat your tissues with any traces of acid without having the equipment to measure the pH?  In essence, without the proper testing equipment people are playing Russian Roulette with their health since they can easily leave enough hydroxide in the solution to burn their tissues.  No wonder so many people complained about injuries after following the protocol.  Of course as I pointed out those messages were quickly deleted when they came up.  But the PMs I received from people injured by this protocol were not.

And hydroxides will neutralize the stomach acid as well, which again leads to a whole host of problems.  This includes the formation of nitrates/nitrites and methemoglobin from the alkalinity in the stomach that the promoter of this protocol claims is so dangerous:

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1486784#i

These posts were erased while all the posts supporting this protocol, which belong in the Moreless forum in the first place, were left up.  Luckily I made copies first since good information has a tendency to disappear around here.

Does the Webmaster and moderators realize that they are increasing their liability if someone gets hurt from a protocol in which they hid known dangers?  Yes, that is right.  If someone gets hurt and decides to sue the Webmaster and the moderators themselves can be held just as liable since they contributed to the injury by deliberately hiding known dangers that were made public.

And yes, people can get hurt from drinking calcium hydroxide.  That is why there are warning labels on ALL bags of calcium hydroxide to avoid tissue contact!!!

Also as I said before this is why alternative medicines are being held back so much.  It is still the wild west in many ways where anyone can can make any wild claim without any evidence and when there are dangers involved they are swept under the rug.  So people get hurt, lawsuits get filed and groups like the FDA say "see, alternatives are dangerous, which is why we need to regulate them".  As long as Curezone is based on politics and not healing and proper information Curezone is going to remain part of the problem as to why alternative medicines are not openly accepted.

It would be interesting to know who the moderator was that banned me.  I have no doubt that it was a supporter of that protocol, which is why the warning posts were deleted, while the misleading information was left behind.  Again, moderators need to be screened against conflicts of interest so people do not end up getting hurt from suppressed information of protocol dangers.  For example, this woman who has posted twice with no response from the supporters of the protocol:

Overalkaline???
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6/8/2011 12:40:16 AM   ( 63 h ago )
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I seem to have overalkalized my body and need to go back int the opposite direction. I'm thinking now that the problems that I have been having lately has been overalkalinity...

What do I do about this situation???


Faith

Overalkaline???
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6/10/2011 10:10:59 AM   ( 5 h ago )
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I posted this message and there was no response. Could I get someone's assistance please. My stomach seems overalkaline, not enough stomach acids, since I've been alkalizing for a long time. My PH stays at about 7.25 to 7.50. When I notice that I'm not feeling well, I check my PH and it is above 7.50 but my stomach is in knots since trying to use the Lime Water again and my digestion stopped! I know a few others who have had the same problems, but we cannot seem to find easy answers. I would, however, like to understand why I am not too alkaline...

My nails are chipping off and not growing and my hands get puffy.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

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