It appears there is a theory floating around here that taking HIGHER levels of Iodine can make detox effects LOWER, perhaps by forcing the toxins out of the body entirely rather than re-depositing them elsewhere.
I can't tolerate more than 2.5mg of Iodine several days in a row without strong detox effects (flu, dozens of body sores, angry mood, etc). 1/2 of an Iodoral tablet (6.5mgs) leaves me in bad shape 2 - 3 days later, with all of the above for days.
I was on fluoridated medications for 5 years, had very low dietary iodine intake during the entire time and have spent 2.5 decades living in the middle of NYC, which isn't the cleanest cityin the world.
Would like to hear people's opinions on the theory above and if anyone has had success with it...
its true, robert. i know it runs counter-intuitive but it works.
however.....
the people with the worst detox in the world from iosupping are those with a history of fluoridated drugs. you, sir, are not to be envied.
i liken it to pulling a tooth - would you like it to come out slow or fast?
but i can see where that might not always be the case. i dont have the experience you have with fluoride and i know how insidious that stuff can be. you will just have to experiment your way through it. Iodine is out of the body in 24 hours so that should be the longest you have to deal with it if it gets to be too much. also, take heart, the worst detox is the first detox. it does keep getting better.
The medication I took for 5 years was 90% fluoride by content and I was taking 60mg daily for 5 years... So more than 50mg of raw poison daily... with less than 100mcg of Iodine in my diet (I used to eat low salt thinking that was HEALTHY)...
I feel sick to my stomach everytime I run the math on how much poison that is
I'm willing to bite the bullet and try the theory. Based on your experience and what you've seen, how far up from my current 2.5mg of Iodine daily would you recommend I push to test it out? I'll report back on how it works
I'm taking the following supplements daily to help with the fluoride (and bromide) and still have the aforementioned issues...
Selenium 200
3 tsp of celtic salt prophylactically
1 tsp of Potassium Chloride prophylactically
3mg Boron
ATP Co-Factors
High quality complete Multi-vitamin
150mg ALA
Tamarind extract (for fluoride)
Chickweed tea (for fluoride)
3000mg Vitamin C (ester-c brand)
Flax seed oil
Fermented Cod Liver Oil / Vitamin Rich Butter Oil
Chlorella
Dandelion
Milk Thistle
Probiotic
250mg of Magnesium (pushing it higher, bowels permitting)
2000 IU Vitamin D
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3 tsp of celtic salt prophylactically
1 tsp of Potassium Chloride prophylactically
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OK but much better as Adrenal Miracle Mix http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1375812
>> 3mg Boron
Tri-Boron to 9mg per day or add Borax USP grade
>> ATP Co-Factors
Magnesium Malate and Niacinamide will aid ATP, also Argenine if your viral load allows..
>> 150mg ALA
No ALA unless taken every 4 hrs ala Cutler else it will just move Mercury around the body
>> 3000mg Vitamin C (ester-c brand)
Ascorbic Acid ONLY, each EsterC will dump 20mg of C every hour and that is enough to turn all your Iodine into iodide. Far better to drink Miracle Adrenal Mix all day.
>> Chlorella
See my old posts on Chlorella, bad types can increase body metal level
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Dandelion
Milk Thistle
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Large doses of Niacinamide will work better for most
>> Probiotic
Skip unless really expensive, use non Irradiated Turmeric in food with small amount of fresh cracked pepper.
>>250mg of Magnesium (pushing it higher, bowels permitting)
Use ONLY Mag Malate unless you want to feed the reproductive cycle of L-Form bacteria
>>2000 IU Vitamin D
Take to toxic dump site, non converted partial fragment of VitD supplement in blood acts as immuno supressive steroid.
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The ALA/mercury risk you point out is very startling... I read through Cutler's research on it but found the supplementation protocol less than intuitive.How many mg of ALA should I take every 4 hours to detox?
I just had a thyroid ultrasound this morning and it came back with multiple nodules :(
I have the ultrasound report from prior to my start on Iodine and I had no nodules :(((
I'm in total shock from the report and have no idea what's going on. This is the complete opposite of what I was expecting. I've stopped the iodine and don't know what to do
You're seeing the results of what you've been drinking, eating, and breathing your whole life. When I started iodine, I got a goiter. That didn't mean I didn't need the iodine, but it meant that I had multiple systems to clean up. Go wheat free and pay attention to your GI test results to see how to help heal your colon. Even though you had no amalgams, the fluoride drugs and the air in NYC -- I've breathed in that black stuff, and though I love NYC, the air is nasty. Even the low amount of iodine you've been taking is enough to stir up the crud in your body, and all heck breaks lose. Also, you can't put the stopper back in the bottle, much as you might want to at this point. I was alarmed at my start, and there were no easy answers. Read, read, read. Try not to panic :) Little threads will start popping up, and you'll follow them, and a small bit will feel better. You build on that, day after day. This is the new partnership with your body, where it's shouting and you're starting to pay attention.
You may need more specific help with your thyroid than we can give. There are thyroid groups ready to help. Start here --
I followed up on your advice and actually just had a call with Janie the owner of stopthyroidmadness.com. I'm seeing an endo and will see why I've developed hyperthyroidism/multi-nodular goiter - got the latter confirmed by ultrasound today :( - all of this from just the 2mg of Iodine I've only been on for only a few weeks :(
You mentioned you initially developed a goiter as well - can you provide a little history on the path you took? how much iodine were you on and when/if the goiter went away. Any nodules? Thanks
I've had a goiter grow three times. No nodules, just uniform swelling on both sides. The first time was probably 20 years ago after taking 30 mg iodine liquid from kelp for a few weeks. I was seeing a doctor regularly at that time because I was on isoniazid treatment for a tb-test conversion. The assumption was I'd been exposed to tb at one time; I think the treatment was for 9 months. I was just starting to take care of myself. The doctor felt the swelling and it put her on alert. I felt guilty about the iodine and stopped it. The goiter went away.
But over the years I had developed a very bad case of fibrocystic breasts. I'd read from Dr. Jonathan Wright that Lugol's could fix this. I didn't have access to Lugol's, and that's why I'd been trying the iodine from kelp. I kept getting worse and worse, and the doctor would only recommend draining the cysts if the pain got too bad. She sent me for a breast sonography, and the radiologist reading the film was very concerned. He had the face of someone looking at a woman who would be back with breast cancer. He spoke with his tech outside the room I was in, and said I needed either thyroid or iodine.
I never saw my doctor again. I redoubled my efforts at self-treatment. I found Iodoral and Iosol on my own, but had vicious headaches that made me think iodine was toxic for me. Then four years ago I found this forum, and learned about detox. I was scared to try iodine again, wondering about the goiter still, but I was scared not to. I started in low and slow on Iodoral and built up. By this time I was additionally taking iodine to offset cardiovascular disease I was afraid of because of high Lipoprotein(a). I began to push the envelope on how much iodine to take. One year after starting, I briefly hit my upper limit of Iodoral 300 mg plus SSKI 600 mg, sort of like achieving a mountain peak. That's when the goiter came back, during this time of super-high dosing.
It continued growing even as I backed off how much iodine I was taking. My thyroid activity, which had continually been low but slightly rejuvenated taking iodine, had never normalized, and I reluctantly concluded I'd have to take thyroid hormone. After 2 years, about the time I reached 5 grains of generic Armour, the goiter was gone. Sadly, I was taking oregano oil for candida. The oregano oil depleted my ferritin levels, which sabotaged my ability to tolerate Armour, and the goiter came back a third time. This time I knew why, that my TSH had risen, and as soon as my ferritin level allowed me to take 3 grains of Armour, the goiter was gone before having become noticeable to anybody but me. I am, today, goiter free :)
yes, yes, and yes :) Generic Armour, that is. Stop the Thyroid Madness recommends a minimum ferritin of 70-90, but I appear to need 140 to be fully functioning. After achieving 140 last year and feeling fabulous, I took oregano oil as part of my candida fight, and found out too late that it can cause iron to disappear. When I finally suspected it this Feb after my energy tanked once again, my ferritin was back down to 56. GRRRRRRRRR It takes SO long to build up ferritin. Luckily I tolerate cheapy ferrous sulfate very well (though hubby needs iron bisglycinate). I have a ferritin about 110 right now, and am tolerating 3-1/2 grains. Only 30 points to go, and I'm really getting impatient. I'm expecting to level off at about 5 grains of thyroid extract.
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