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article on how copper reduces digestive enzymes
by Laredo7
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oh how the plot thickens!! every single symptom i have is explained by copper overload....amazing. also my BM are totally normal after using artichoke hearts after each meal...i eat just a couple of quarters of them..bm's formed and chocolate colored!! who ever thought one could be so excited looking at thier own poop!!
http://umsms.siteturbine.com/faculty/faculty_files/publications/450/ChenEtAl02ETC.pdf
below is another about heavy metals and enzymes
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=120
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Laredo7
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Hey Pal!
I assumed the digestion effect was related to copper/zinc antagonism. You need zinc to form HCL proprerly, and HCL is needed to digest the food.
Learning more about that was pretty interesting; thanks!
Cheers!
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Hi pally:) Thanx for the positive reinforcement. I just love connecting the dots...it's like solving a mystery....
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Here's another great article in layman's terms discussing HCL and copper
http://www.biowaves.com/Articles/MT/Metallothionein02.php
and one that talks about progesterone raising methallioniene which is a protien that binds heavy metals and makes them not toxic
http://www.sinica.edu.tw/zool/zoolstud/41.1/111.pdf
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Awesome, congrats! I love it when things come together, too. ;)
Also, an interesting thing I discovered a few years ago was that enzyme activity is tied to temperature. My body temp was 2 degrees lower than normal for a long time. The Human body has the ability to get more hot than cold. I.E. you can run a fever of up to 102-104 before needing medical attention, but if you go below 96, you're in trouble.
Question: how are you doing the artichokes? Are you cooking/preparing them yourself, or buying pre-cooked?
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i bought canned artichokes but they only have water and salt in them, no preservatives.
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alibaba, perhaps copper toxicity relates to hypothyroidism more directly than I thought
Low temp being a sign of hypothyroidism, but it also has to do with basal metabolic rate
I wonder if it actually causes a thyroid drop or just mimics hypothyroidism
Of course the adrenal insufficiency over time will lead to hypothyroidism
Iv also heard that copper tox is invariably experienced along with Adrenal Fatigue and perhaps even caused by low cortisol(Adrenal Fatigue)
Laredo, how long have you been supping zinc(and anything else related to copper dumping) and how has the pain of copper dumping changed since you first started
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hi over the edge, the first month was really tough, all my symptoms were amplified everytime i took zinc they i started feeling better gradually but still cntinued dumping copper...the dumps are just MUCH milder now, i'm on my 6th month....i started feeling pretty darn good by month 3
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I suppose it's possible, but I'm not sure about the thyroid link. I tried different therapies for Wilson's Syndrome, including supping w/ T3, and didn't have much positive outcome from it.
The thing that ultimately helped me the most w/ body temp was CoQ10. I used to feel bone cold, to the core, but not anymore. ;)
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How do artichoke hearts help? Is it the increased bile production?
Cynarin, an active chemical constituent in Cynara (the artichoke genus), causes an increased bile flow.
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Apple cider vinegar and taurine were helping you before, if I remember correctly. Those are both digestion aids. And as I mentioned in my other post, artichokes also help with digestion.
I'm learning that Adrenal Fatigue has a big impact on digestion. One mechanism seems to be reduced bile production. I wonder how that happens.
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Hi omo, I belive its the increased bile flow with artchoke hearts. They say italso regenerates liver tissue. Also from my resert the pancreas like all the endocrine glands takes a huge hit with copper. I used to have amazing digestion before all this started
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