I recently got my Expanded GI Panel, Diagnos Tech results.
Here is the link and I hope it works
Results show inflammation and bacterias named
Klebsiella / Enterobacter / Serratia
Alpha Hemolytic Streptococcus
Gamma Hemolytic Streptococcus
Can those bacteria create a significant problem or is the problem somewhere else?
I'm going to try two more labs to see if I still have Giardia and Amoeba Histolytica. I might have to travel to Brazil again to get tested :o(
I'm also going to try to find a doctor that understands this stuff well...
These are listed as pathogenic? Gram negative or gram positive? I would look at some antibiotics like Rifaximin etc. Rifaximin stays in the gut and was developed with travelers diarrhea in mind not sure if is for gram positive or negative though. Septra (Biaxin) could be another candidate. http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/
I think that the most significant finding here is the small intestine and large intestine inflammation. The gut bacteria mentioned are opportunists, not pathogens but they do overgrow when the person has an underlying intestinal problem. You probably do not have an autoimmune gluten (glaidin)problem but it does not rule out a non-autoimmune gluten intolerance or a less common food allergy. Even tho 3 stool samples were tested it does not rule our all parasites as only a few were looked for and some would not be in the stool.
Other than returning to your Dr for more tests you could look at the programs on the Liver Flush Support Forum. This will give you an overview of the types of programs that will improve your digestive health.
Thanks for posting your results. I have not seen a DiagnosTech report before tho many people have found it helpful.
I dont think it is advisable to take any antibiotics or drugs for parasites until you find out what is causing the inflammation. You already have a dysbiosis and treatment could further unbalance your intestinal flora. Seeing a gastroenterologis would be able to assess your condition and explain the report.
The report suggested that you have a slow stool transit time and it would be wise to find a way to speed that up. Small intestine congestion or constipation is more difficult to treat than large intestine constipation. The longer the stool material stays inside your body the more toxins you adsorb and slow transit time makes the risk of cancer greater.
I'm planing on doing another test and seeing a specialist in (hopefully) near future. I won't be taking any more medicine or supplements for the moment.
>The report suggested that you have a slow stool transit time and it
I also have diarrhea (not the explosive kind tho) I think the slow stool transit time was a bit of a coincidence. Normally I go to the bathroom once a day. If I start eating normal, I can go to the bathroom more then once a day and have stronger diarrhea and worse looking stools...
Many people think that having one bm a day is OK but Dr. Hulda Clark wrote that a person with a healthy digestive sytem will have a bm within an hour after eating a meal. Apparently the acid response in the stomach to eating triggers the iliac valve to open releasing the digested food from the small intestine into the bowel. Because I'm on a gluten free diet I need to supplement with fiber and use gf cereals - millet, buckwheat, brown rice, quinona, oat. Some people use metamucil. I also eat vegetable with high fiber but vegetable fiber does not do me much good by itself. To be able to tolerate the fiber and added foods I used the Specific Carbohydrate Diet.
This seems to be a typical finding with most of us. Your bacteria is not that far out of line, no yeat was found, SIGA is low, and there are signs of inflammation. However, you continue to have problems that are far out of line with the magnitude of the abnormalities on your test. You can try a Heidleberg or smart pill test to measure transit time and Ph, but my guess is it will show some abnormalities that are also too little to explain your symptoms.
Clearly, there is something wrong with these tests and/or there is something they are not capable of picking up.
>This seems to be a typical finding with most of us. Your
>bacteria is not that far out of line, no yeat was found,
>SIGA is low, and there are signs of inflammation. However,
>you continue to have problems that are far out of line with
>the magnitude of the abnormalities on your test. You can
>try a Heidleberg or smart pill test to measure transit time
>and Ph, but my guess is it will show some abnormalities
>that are also too little to explain your symptoms.
>Clearly, there is something wrong with these tests and/or
>there is something they are not capable of picking up.
I decided to test with Diagnos tech because I have seen some reports of Amoeba H from this test. I spent hours digging for reports on this Diagnos Tech test online. I found some reports of Amoeba H findings with its saliva test. However, I haven't seen any reports of Giardia! I checked the reports from other labs but Diagnos Tech was the most frequently reported with positives for Amoeba. The other labs I checked for reports from people online where Drs data, Genova Diagnostics, Parasitology Center Inc. Genova Diagnostics came in second place as far as positives for Amoeba. I have seen at least one report of Giardia with Genova.
Unfortunately not many people post or talk about their test results online. I already wasted money on MetaMetrix, Quest Diagnostics and Jetty Katz lab in the last 6 years and I can't recommend those.
I was not expecting much from the Diagnos Tech test but I had to give a chance since I could not find a better option at that time.
No lab I tried in USA has revealed Amoeba or Giardia in my tests. This is frightening and people should be aware of this. Amoeba can be deadly (as mentioned before in the forums).
Its very likely that I still have Amoeba H or Giardia. Apparently its not uncommon for protozoa symptoms to re-appear 2 months after treatment and I'm not talking about re-contamination!
BTW, stool collection are only done two days with the Diagnos tech test. It says 3 days but the second day is skipped and the second stool collection is on the 3rd day!!
I really need to confirm which bug I still have or not have to take medications and do treatment efficiently and not create a worse situation. I'm looking at rectal mucosa test and if that fails I'm going to see if I can travel to Brazil and test at Labion again.
Thanks for the replies everyone!
All the best
Jazzy
Disclaimer: Like most people here, I'm not a doctor or health care professional. My posts are for informational purposes only.
No lab I tried in USA has revealed Amoeba or Giardia in my tests. This is frightening and people should be aware of this. Amoeba can be deadly (as mentioned before in the forums)."
Jazzy, many people do not know, including of course many "wonderful" doctors, that E. Histolytica hardly ever shows up and that it is is the unexplained causes of many people's strange illness caused by some "alien" bug; most doctors do 1 stool test; and others, rarely wise ones will order 3; even more wise ones will order six; but literature exists--which is so easily available to any curious person--that stool tests hardly show E. Histolytica. because, as one famous doctor put it, "stool is just passing by" and often do not reveal E. Histolytica. Which is of cause a tissue invasive bug. Which does not mean it always invade organs, which it does though.
But note one thing in your quest lab test; it says everythng is negative; but E. Histolytica is "NOT DETECTED" ; a very smart thing to say. WHich of course doctors do not pick up on; because most of them are f***ing m*o*o*ns when it comes to parasites. At least this lab is wise to say that eh is "NOT DETECTED".
Now about even blood tests for detecting E. Histolytica, which most doctors trust as the golden method for finding for invasive E. Histolytica. For many doctors a blood test tell a lot about human health! NO, there are again studies showing--which doctors do not read--that even blood tests do not reveal, even in cases of liver invasive amebas! My own doctors is an example. Want an example?: Here it is:
so if you have nothing showing up, always bet on this very verstile bug....; much smarter than most doctors of course.......and their tests...supposed good tests
see.....again below.....; Eh will be there making sure that the own immune system does not recognize it, creating havoc, drilling through the walls of the stomach. but know that there are good doctors/parasitologists who know how to find it properly--using methods already prescribed by literature but hardly now followed by many parastilogists; there are also good ones who know how to treat it; But sadly only a few of them. Here is the example liver invasive amebas not detectable even in blood tests, until of course....
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Infection. 2011 Jul 7. [Epub ahead of print]
Amoebic liver abscess with negative serologic markers for Entamoeba histolytica: mind the gap!
Marn H, Ignatius R, Tannich E, Harms G, Schürmann M, Dieckmann S.
Source
Institute of Tropical Medicine and International Health, Charité-Universitätsmedizin Berlin, Spandauer Damm 130, Haus 10, 14050, Berlin, Germany, heiko.marn@charite.de.
Abstract
A 38-year-old male German traveller returning from Asia presented with fever, night sweats and abdominal complaints. Abdominal ultrasonography revealed several fast-growing abscesses of the liver. Three blood cultures as well as serologic investigations for the detection of antibodies to Entamoeba histolytica, performed on day 3 and 7 after the onset of clinical symptoms, remained negative. Stool microscopy revealed the presence of amoeba cysts compatible with E. histolytica infection. Taking both the amoebic and bacterial etiology of the abscesses into consideration, the patient was treated with metronidazole and ciprofloxacin followed by paromomycin. Antibodies to E. histolytica tested positive shortly after anti-amoebic therapy was initiated. The patient fully recovered, and ultrasound follow-up showed complete resolution of the abscesses within 50 days. This case leads to the conclusion that amoebic liver abscess should be considered despite negative amoeba serology and that ultrasonography is an important diagnostic tool for the early diagnosis of extraintestinal amoebiasis
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The bacterias you showed are normal bacteria. The only thing that seems wrong in your results are the low IgA. That means you have an infection lowering your IgA production. Blastocystis digests the IgA and so does many other protozoa like the Entamoeba.spp.
Don't waste your time and money dude with charlatants. See a real specialist of infectious disease or take medications.
You can take Colostrum which has some IgA to healp your system.
Yahia,and Jazzy, especially E. Histolytica, according to one of the best texts on parasitology, says"
"It has been demonstrated that Cysteine proteinases can degrade both IgA and IgG antibody, which may limit the effectiveness of the host humoral response."
Hence the impossibility of antigen testing turning positive......Very cunning parasite.....
Hence your low IgA; your Brizalian lab was perhaps really correct; you have E. Histolytica! sometimes labs in the 3rd world are better than labs here in the US.
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