I did not state categorically that colonics are bad for people. I said I was concerned that they might be harmful. And I still am. I have a friend who got them and gave up as they were too draining on her system.
There are other ways to clean out the colon. For ex. Blessed Herbs has a great product which does not wipe out the gut flora. There is organic psyllium combined with Bentonite clay. Low enemas can help clean out the colon, but there will still be gut flora from the intestines to help replinish it, in addition to intentionally taken probiotics. Low enemas don't invade the entire intestinal tract.
If colonics have done you no harm, good, I hope that continues to be the case and that you don't discover any related problems down the line. But "one size doesn't fit all."
What data is there to show the extent of damage colonics may be doing to the gut flora, electrolytes etc. and that taking this & that product will adequately replace them? I don't believe any such research has been done. Therefore I continue to feel that one should procede with caution if at all. Mho.
If expressing a different opinion is being bullying, then what is this forum all about? If you try to squash others' honest oponions and expressions of concern for others doing something possibly (notice the word possibly) harmful, then maybe you have to watch out for being bullying yourself dear.
I agree, we should be able to ask questions and give our own opinions.
For myself, a healthy and youthful 45 yr old woman, who just happens to have a bad case of worms, colonics are no problem, relaxing and much easier than enemas. Wish I could get there more often. On the other hand, zappers scare me, and I know you zapp daily for an hour or so you have said.
So, I don't know why people need to be so nasty. I read things that I think are BS here, but choose to ignore it because opposing it servers no purpose, and I am very much aware that we all respond differently to treatments, and there is no cure all for all.
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I read things that I think are BS here, but choose to ignore it because opposing it servers no purpose
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It serves the purpose that newcomers have several ways to rebuild their health, rather than believing the beliefs and dogmas with no proofs or facts that some persons spread on this forum.
I had no intention of saying anything nasty when I mentioned that I think colonics may possibly be harmful. If you don't want to express a dissenting opinion - though you have expressed a dissenting opinion about those who choose to give dissenting opinions - that is certainly your choice.
As for me, if I hear something that I think might be harmful to people then I want to put in my 2 cents. Each person can, of course, make up his or her own mind from all the info available.
Wanting to alert people to a possible danger - as for ex. telling about my friend who felt wiped out by colonics - isn't being nasty but being concerned.
I did colonics before and I was so uncomfortable. Just wanted to get on the toliet and do it myself...maybe I'm so impacted that I contantly got this urge to go with a weird feeling...I had to keep stopping the person because I couldnt take it...
Tell me more about what all you have tried with colonics and what have you found to be the most rewarding.
Also any tips would be nice to hear as you have tried various things.
Post on drug support too!
THanks,
Steps
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"Parasites patients are sticky & clingy & impossible to tolerate." Sorry, that's nonsense as well as insulting. Apparently everyone has parasites and no way are all people like that. It certainly didn't describe me before I got rid of mine. I wasn't clingy, I was disgusted with not being diagnosed correctly and went off with great independence to find the solution to the problem myself - like uncounted numbers of folk on this forum.
What research is that statement based on? Did they do personality tests to determine "clinginess" before & after?
I seriously doubt it.
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It's good to see you breaking dogmas :)
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"Our thinking is shaded by the parasites thinking through us." What research is there to back that up? What research backs up that parasites can think at all?
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You can find some proofs in the book "Parasite Rex" by Carl Zimmer.
But even without proofs, it makes sense... A body with too many parasites will not function with the same efficiency and will not have the same energy as a clean body.
But it is more a physiological problem than a psychological problem.
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Parasite patients often express the psyche of the parasites - sticky, clingy, impossible to tolerate - but a wonderful human being is behind all of that.
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Indeed if you have a head full of toxic metals or if your colon is irritated and full of obstructions, life is good...
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Mimosa pudica powder is an Ayurvedic herb that is 30 times stronger than the best medical drug.
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This is interesting, can you give us more information about this herb and how you use it ?
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Nail biting is a sign of parasites.
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Trying to be eaten by a bear or a lion is a sign of parasites...
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The more you deworm, the longer you live and the healthier you are.
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The more you deworm, the longer you MAY live and the healthier you MAY be. There are others parameters to keep a good health.
Colonics are great for the occasional cleanse. It's better than providing years of toxic waste as a home for the parasites. I suggest that a one-size-fits-all pasted answer to every question doesn't always apply. If you aren't professionally trained, then don't offer your opinions as the absolute. One or two here love to bully new people who have something new to say. Maybe if more people felt free to express their opinion or share knowledge on this forum more of us would be healed.
No one has offered their opinion as an absolute. I don't think anyone here feels that "professional training" is necessary for the expression of their opinion or that those who have "professional training" are to necessarily be considered as infallible.
You don't seem to feel a bit restrained or "bullied" in expressing your opinion. Why do you think others are feeling that way?
"If more people felt free to express their opinion..."
I see lots of people here expressing differing opinions. They don't seem a bit inhibited by anything. The people here seem to me to be folk who think for themselves and don't cower in a corner if someone says something they don't agree with. They say what they think - even if it means someone else may come along afterwards and accuse them of "bullying" others if they express a point of view that person doesn't care for.
By the way, do you do colonics for a living? Are you a professional in that? If so, one could wonder if that's why you have a particular antipathy to anyone saying anything negative about them - right or wrong. If you are not, should you be giving your opinion if (?) you feel that only professionals should be listened to on this topic?
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No one has offered their opinion as an absolute. I don't think anyone here feels that "professional training" is necessary for the expression of their opinion or that those who have "professional training" are to necessarily be considered as infallible.
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I love when you talk that way :)
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You don't seem to feel a bit restrained or "bullied" in expressing your opinion. Why do you think others are feeling that way?
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I agree, there are some persons on this forum who express their beliefs as a universal truth and then they are shocked to be contradicted...
If you don't want to be contradicted, please use the words "In my opinion" "I think that" "I believe" "From my experience" "It may be" Things like that...
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Maybe if more people felt free to express their opinion or share knowledge on this forum more of us would be healed.
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Feel free to speak, no one will hurt you, some of your statements will be appreciated and some of your statements may be contradicted, that's the basis of an exchange of ideas and experiences and that's great for all of us in order to learn and to improve.
Lorica Lady - I wasn't talking to you, I meant to defend your right to speak without people getting nasty.
And yes, if someone is very rude with their words to me for no reason, I will express my opinion regarding the matter. In almost two years, that was the first time I lost my cool, and I felt I reciprocated the sentiment geared at me.
Can you or anyone direct me to more information about this treatment:
Can use rectal application of 1 capsule of BioPure Freeze-dried garlic, 100mg artemisinin, 1 teaspoon phospholipids with pure water in a bulb syringe from the local drugstore. Make the mix liposomal using the ultrasonic method used with the Klinghardt Cocktail. Hold it. This cleans the rectum and then gets absorbed such that many start to see visible evidence of worm elimination. A good first step in parasite elimination.
It was recomended to me to try the Garlic and Wormwood enema which is part of the Klinghardt academy parasite protocal but I can't find any specifics (except this post). Even though this post is fairly comprehensive I still am not sure exactly what I need to get and how to apply it. For example what is the 'ultrasonic method'? Where can I get phospholipids? What is artemisinin?
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