thank you for the advice. i tried several of the links to different sites, but did not find anything that i thought was legitimate. any suggestions on legitimate, good quality machines.
i was hoping that someone may have one in their basement and just wanted to get rid of it.
its a 50/50 chance for a yes. i live for the "YES". it could happen.lol
Used Rife machines are always for sale. Why? Because they don't work!
I used to make and sell Rife machines but stopped due to my conscience bothering me. Other than a few exceptions, such as 464Hz for candida, they don't work.
Rife machine sellers teach how the inventor Royal Rife used his machine successfully against cancer and different microbes. Then they let you assume that their "Rife machine" is the same that Royal Rife used although the original design and frequency list died with Rife since he kept them secret in hopes of finding a buyer for his technology. Also the common "Rife frequency lists" are allowed to be assumed to be from Royal Rife which is not true. In 2009 Don Tunney, manufacturer of the PERL Rife machine, died of cancer due to radiation exposure. If Rife machines cured cancer then of course he would still be enjoying life.
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Rife machine sellers teach how the inventor Royal Rife used his machine successfully against cancer and different microbes. Then they let you assume that their "Rife machine" is the same that Royal Rife used although the original design and frequency list died with Rife since he kept them secret in hopes of finding a buyer for his technology. Also the common "Rife frequency lists" are allowed to be assumed to be from Royal Rife which is not true.
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So true.
When you add :
random frequencies
+
random devices
+
random electrodes or random antennas
you have :
random results. ;)
No one is considering the ouput voltage or the strength of the electromagnetic field as an important parameter. I guess there are more repeaters than critical thinkers...
Why not rather go for a Hilda clark frequency generator and her frequency list. Not one of the rife machines I tested had positive offset, and Dr Clark clearly says that even the smallest negative spike will feed the parasites. So if this is true then a rife machine cannot kill parasites. And besides its easy and cheap to build
So in your experience. Rife machine are generally NOT effective and zappers ARE? I'm not trying to start an argument, I am a relatively inexperienced person just trying to learn more.
I have been close to taking the plunge on a 2700 dollar bcx ultra plasma rife machine for the past couple weeks, just so expensive.
All of us in curezone is still learning, one wise old man once tough me, if you are always the smartest person in the conversation you will never become smarter, if you do want to be smarter you have to spend your time in the presence of someone who is smarter then you are. That is why I spent time on curezone for I believe there is some really smart people here.
When I refer to a rife machine I referred to one which sends out frequency's through handholds, now the moment you go to a plasma tube it uses light frequency's, and in my opinion I am not sure if positive offset could be a problem ( maybe the smart guys can shed some light )
How ever I did find a energy saving globe in south Africa that sends out 700khz, so I decided to go back to " The Cure For All Diseases " and found that is a mite frequency range.
So when we chucked the patients carpets out I gathered some samples and put under microscope. The one set that was exposed to the globe was having a party drinking beer listening to rock & roll.
The other that was simply exposed to normal sunlight inside the room died in 4 days.
So obviously all the energy saving globes with their Amalgam was chucked out. Now my conclusion is this, Hilda Clark killed them with a frequency generator at 707Khz. This was truly positive offset, now a light source sending out the same frequency makes them grow ? Is it because it doesn't have positive offset ? Again hopefully the smart guys will answer that.
I do believe that the plasma rife machine could cure you, but we all know that a proper zapper can, the difference is in the price. For $2700 you could get a decent zapper from parazapper, you can get a decent bob beck blood electrifier and a decent magnetic pulsar a silver generator and have money left to buy some proper herbs.
And if a plasma Rife could compete with all these ? I don't believe so.
Go read the forum's on what happened to rife and his research, he only had something like 10 frequency's, which died with him and no one will ever know. The people that continued Rife's work could never double his results. So sadly Rife's research died with him. Now we are sitting with thousand's of Rife frequency's that no one know where they came from.
I do use some of those frequency's when I cant find it on Hulda Clark 's side. So I am not trowing stones. I am rather sad that such a brilliant man took his research with him, or maybe government is just with holding it, who knows.
It was written by Peter Walker one of the administrators.
Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Rife claimed that his original machines cured cancer. We have no reason at the present time to doubt this claim but it has not been absolutely proven. We don't know exactly how the original machines worked and so the modern machines probably don't work in exactly the same way. Some modern machines have been shown to have been useful in the treatment of some cancer patients but it would be misleading to claim that they represent an absolute cure for cancer.
In general it would be fair to say that Rife type machines have been extremely useful in the control and management of many diseases including many serious ones that haven't responded to conventional treatment but it would be wrong to say that these machines in their present form are a cure for any specific disease.
The Hungarian Company OncoTherm have done several clinical studies in Europe on treating cancer with their Oncotherapy device which uses a Rife frequency modulation. These trials did show a significant improvment in health and a reduction in tumour size.
All serious Rife researchers recommend that you should seek professional medical advice before considering any form of medical treatment with a Rife type machine.
Only a few people seem to have read correctly the first book of Hulda Clark ...
She clearly explained that at first she thought that to emit the range of frequencies of an organism was able to kill the organism.
But later she found that some more evolved organisms (i mean in size and according to her measures the range of frequencies is proportional) were resistant to their frequencies (with the same intensity)
Then she clearly explained that it is a high enough intensity that kills all kinds of organisms. A frequency possibly improves the killing effect by shaking the materials or disturbing the "life beat" (this is my theory)
What is funny is that there are many devices which are sold with beliefs and without facts.
Concerning Rife devices, we don't know anything about them, the man is dead with his inventions, the new devices (not the same tech, not the same frequencies, not the same electrodes or antennas) may produce some die off because of the intensity not necessarily because of the frequencies. I don't know.
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So your saying that frequency's did not kill them but current did ?
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Maybe.
I say that you can kill a human body with a high enough intensity whatever the frequency (there are several deaths with 220V 50Hz-60Hz in France)
I also say that the time of electrisation is also an important parameter to consider.
I think a high enough intensity + a long enough time can disturb the "life beat" (i mean the cycles in the organisms as the heart beat, or the breathing), or can damage the materials of the organism (burn the tissues, alterate the nervous system and the brain functions)
We have seen these damages in human bodies.
Therefore a high enough intensity (but low enough to not damage the human body too much) may probably be used to kill "weaker" organisms.
The adding of a frequency may be used to increase the damage caused by electrons by shaking the organisms or altering the materials (my theory).
That' what you can see when a human body touches a 220V 50 - 60 Hz signal.
That is true. If you read in some of my other posts i don't believe in a to strong zapper. First of all do no harm is my motto. Now there is powerfull zappers out there like the one parazapper build. I accidently build one that gave 5A current. I just touched it once, my heart stopped for 3 seconds. Now when is it to strong or to weak ? Hilda clark spoke of 300micro amps. Bob beck spoke of 100micro amps. Now people use a 3mA Zapper. So what is just enough ?
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I accidently build one that gave 5A current.
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Don't do that, it can kill you !
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I just touched it once, my heart stopped for 3 seconds. Now when is it to strong or to weak ? Hilda clark spoke of 300micro amps. Bob beck spoke of 100micro amps. Now people use a 3mA Zapper. So what is just enough ?
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30mA is the intensity recognised to start to be dangerous for humans. (in France)
The most powerfull zappers i know are the ones of parazapper and the ultimate zapper and they can give 3 to 5mA. (it also depends on the kinds of electrodes you use, how you use them, and what is the wetness and resistance of your skin and body.)
I have done tests up to 23mA (with electrodes and wet coton) during several minutes without any side effects, ok i admit that it starts to do pricks sensations on the skin but nothing damaging.
I won't advise to do sessions at more than 20 mA and that's why i use a fuse to protect my body.
And i don't advise to try to build such a device if you don't understand how electrons behave. Really it can kill you if you don't follow some security measures.
With DC without a frequency, the die off is better than with the others weak zappers i have but not spectacular, i want to try to add a frequency to see what it does. It's wip ;)
Just liisted to a 45 min bob beck lecture from 1995 ( I think) VERY fascinating stuff. I do have parazappers uzi model and I am happy with it. I wonder what the difference in the blood electrifier migt be?
I am also very interested in the magnetic pulser idea. Have you tried a specific type? How might the effectiveness compare to traditional biomagnet therapy?
Everyone here will thoroughly enjoy that lecture so I will provide a link to it later for those that aren't aware.
So in your experience. Rife machine are generally NOT effective and zappers ARE? I'm not trying to start an argument, I am a relatively inexperienced person just trying to learn more.
I have been close to taking the plunge on a 2700 dollar bcx ultra plasma rife machine for the past couple weeks, just so expensive.
I think you would be better off with an F165. Because the F165 uses positive offset square wave by default. So you don't have to hit the exact frequency to get some results. It also can generate a carrier wave for better penetration.
With a plasma hard to tell exactly what strength of signal you are getting to the target area. Rife used a directional Xray tube.
So if you listening to radio, the guy talking on the radio would be speaking different frequency's, but those frequency's is send of at 108Mhz.( in south africa ) So the frequency's that they guy will be speaking will be projected or send out or transmitted at 108Mhz. 108Mhz would be the carrier wave.
So we had some Quantum Physics machine's here that claimed to be able to treat you all around the world. So you will put your hair inside the "well" which will tell the machine the frequency that the patient will receive. Now the machine can send treatments over the air and the patients body will act as a receiver and receive those treatments. That frequency ( set by the hair in the well ) will be the carrier wave, carrying what ever the treatment is over the air so that the patients body will receive it.
I don't trust it though, the guy wanting to sell this machine to me for $ 20 000 had his own health issues, so he would hook himself up to the machine. So I ask why don't you just treat yourself over the air, and he said its not so effective and cellphones and wireless technology and and and. But he has a list of 200 people that get all their treatments over the air daily. They pay 300 bucks each every month so I guess he is making good money.
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