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I'm not going to say much about this except this is something else that could be coming.
Reply FCK TinyMCE
Wishful thinking. All of this "stuff". Not without it's entertainment value IMO.
Tim Turner's motive's maybe questionable when he puts up all of the land of America to get the gold to finace his perhaps "de facto republic"? I question what is really going on with him & the other leaders on the national level. Something doesn't ring true. The republic State of Texas question his motives big time. E
Anyone interested in why The republic State of Texas had a falling out with the National leaders can go here & listen to the 3-22-2012 audio starting at 19 mins as the Gov Wright explains what happened.
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Freedomreigns.com>Have you heard the Drake interview with Wilcock? You are
>the blogís authority, in my opinion, on this subject matter.
>Will you please weigh in and share your thoughts with us.Thank you, I appreciate the compliment. I did listen to the interview, and even burned those MP3s to CDs to pass out to people. Excellent interviewÖ Drake is filling in the final pieces to the puzzle Iíve been working on for over a year. I had originally joined the RuSA (Republic for the united States of America) because of their plan, and from what it sounds like Drake is representing the organization that was originally planning on backing RuSA. These were the mysterious representatives of the military that were going to back us and assist us in bringing the country back to itís roots.
RuSA had progressed nicely, managing to organize quite quickly and established strong groups in all of the 50 states. They had a good plan, one that from all intents and purposes had a strong chance of being successful. That is, until the true motives of the leaders came into view, revealing themselves as probable cabal agents that were ferreting out anyone who was willing to stand up to the government. It was most likely that they were never planning on finishing the paperwork, just to keep these people busy until it was too late. Their plan backfired though, in that their plan for restoration was actually sound. What they didnít count on was people standing up for themselves and doing their own research. A strong movement was growing to kick out the leaders and replace them. While this movement was growing, someone in Pennsylvania found another very similar method and managed to achieve what RuSA had planned on their own, and then they passed this information to others. Within a month or so, a majority of the RuSA groups in each state agreed to disassociate themselves with RuSA and take the same path as Pennsylvania, bypassing RuSA.
I had wondered about that at the time, as both of the methods followed the same basic technique, and both of them seemed like they would work. The question to me was which one was more validÖ Drake answered my questions during that interview, as he was the one that inadvertantly started the second movement (possibly both). This filled in the blanks of the missing information I had been looking for, and fits in with everything else I had found out. From what I can determine, Drakeís organization was the same one that Iíve been hearing hints of for years, but could never pin down. This adds a significant amount of credibility to his organization in my mind.
Overall, I enjoyed the interview but didnít like the part where it ventured off into the woo-woo for a bit. That made it harder for me to pass out the CDs to people that are not yet aware of that aspect (although I do believe it is true). The opposite goes for their previous interviews on the freedom websites, where the theme came across as fanatical patriots. None of these interviews are generic enough to pass out to ďanyoneĒ, they each appeal to a particular fringe group, which makes it hard for me to pass them out to everyone I meet.Posted by John MacHaffie at 6:47 PM
DanApr 1, 2012 04:46 PM
Is Obama going to be able to fly off in Air Force One with his family and Cabinet to escape the arrests?
This is because HE IS PRESIDENT!!!
Maybe you should have the pilots sworn in as Federal Marshals of have some of the Secret Service that are known to go with him be sworn in as Federal Marshals and therefore he CAN NOT go too far, thus charges can be filed against him and his Cabinet for Resisting Arrest as this is an attempted escape!
Will the Indiana Supreme Court be arrested for ruling that Law Enforcement can go into your home WITHOUT a warrant and even fire their gun at you for resisting their entry?
Will the state of Illinois, and the other states with the similar law, have charges filed against the Legislators for passing a law that declares a felony for anyone recording a law enforcement officer in any manner?
Once the announcement is made how soon will actions be taken to Halt ALL IRS actions, such as them issuing Notices and Penalties for us NOT filing a return or paying any amount due?
Will there be ANY refunds for taxes previously paid which were against the law, or is it just we start from scratch , just with NO debts?
DanApr 1, 2012 04:53 PM
What will happen for us to keep our bank accounts, credit cards, and employment checks coming if the Social Security Numbers will be eliminated?
RepliesAnonymousApr 1, 2012 08:00 PM
Bank accounts will continue to have the account number that you have always had. Credit cards balances will be dissolved and you will have to be responsible with your money instead of running up a CC bill. (It won't be hard because taxes will be nothing like they are now) Employment checks will be made out in your name, not your SSN, just like they are today.
In the end, YOU will be responsible for yourself. Don't do anything criminal with all that freedom. SSNs were never about preventing fraud or providing identification, they have proven to be a failure ad nauseum.
MehrmoreApr 1, 2012 05:20 PM
I believe nation states use pre constitutional law. The state would hold the soverignty. The constitution transfers the sovereignty to the people The Republic for the united States is doing nothing more than occupying the vacant seats of the Republic that have always existed since the 1791 constitution but were a andonded in 1861. It really is the only lawful government we have today. It is an interim government. What's a government without the people?
RepliesAnonymousApr 1, 2012 06:06 PM
The Constitution of 1787 supercedes the Articles of Confederation. Any mentioned by Drake's group to use these blows his group out of the water! The states are in union with the united States of America not nation states independent of the uSA.
AnonymousApr 1, 2012 06:43 PM
I draw a distinction between the RAP with the first 3 publicly stated "elders", Kennedy (yeah, not his family name, he said so publicly), Reedy, and Schaults, and the Plan with Turner added weeks after the original announcement. I don't have "inside intel" on who did what and when and who was/is a double agent... I do know from someone who was there that the Turner faction wanted to move in directions that the first three did not and some of those who were meeting at an executive board level quit at that time citing Turner as the reason. We never heard much from Reedy or Schaults after that point. Drake is saying essentially what Kennedy announced, reminding me of the hope and anticipation this brought and that the decades of the Patriot movement were going to bear fruit in our lifetimes, just not on the schedule Kennedy announced. Praying for this all to be real.
AnonymousApr 1, 2012 08:26 PM
Sorry guys. All this RAP is just more nonsense. While you waddle in and out of who did this and who did that and how the country is going to change, Obama and his hinchman are taking away your rights and freedoms daily. You're caught up in a deception designed by the elite to get you tied up in this BS movement while they take this country down the tubes. Troops are being readied, FEMA camps manned, domestic terrorists lists updated, new laws passed daily and you actually think that a handfull of delusional people are going to change this system. What a joke! You'll never get enough of the sheeple to change things. It's too late.
RepliesAnonymousApr 2, 2012 05:22 AM
sadly I must agree
AnonymousApr 1, 2012 09:36 PM
Copy of my email to David Wilcock:
Listening to the second part of interview and honestly Drake hasnt said anything that hasnt been told to us that are in the Republic for the united States(RuSA) by President Tim Turner, Dinar Recaps website and other sites including NESARA Blog. You should interview President Tim Turner and visit the website:
President Turner can provide a far intelligent interview than "Drake."
AnonymousApr 1, 2012 10:14 PM
Now is the time to dust off and reconsider the research of LB Bork. http://anticorruptionsociety.com/national/our-state-national-status/
AR925Apr 2, 2012 12:06 AM
"Is Obama going to be able to fly off in Air Force One with his family and Cabinet to escape the arrests?
This is because HE IS PRESIDENT!!!"
He's only the president of the corporation called the United States of America, Inc.
He does not rule over you or me, or anyone else that is not a member of the corporation.
But to answer your question, NO. Listen closely to what Drake says. They are getting their "people" in position so that the RATS can't run. Sit back and relax. Everything will be ok. :) Happy Days are coming!!
AnonymousApr 2, 2012 01:23 AM
GO LISTEN: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/04/01/freedom-reigns?utm_source=BTRemail&utm_medium=ShowReminder
DanApr 2, 2012 03:20 AM
Maybe the cops that are given the job to make the arrests are DIRTY Cops and will have the Back Door Open for those to just walk OUT!!!
Maybe the Sheriffs who have the Highest jurisdiction should oversee this!
Constitutional Sheriff's Posse - List of Sheriffs
AnonymousApr 2, 2012 04:24 AM
Kennedy wrote the Restore America Plan,a wordy man with a following established thru his"Take No Prisoners" show on Republic Broadcasting and Reedy worked with the County Notary movement and Schaults,retired military with connections all resonated with me as the real deal. My husband helped wake Kennedy up with conversations about licensing in all its forms. I believe all 3 men to be honorable and searching for the truth. Turner held a large following thru his seminars, came on board last and managed to steal the show. I know of 3 men personally that are in jail right now for following Turner's process. I know of another that spent 15 days for comtempt for asking a village justice a question and then 87 days for not accepting their offer to contract to show up in court. He was released on the 40th day of fasting,all connected with the fact that we signed as the grand jurors on the Restore America Plan. This is an idea,liberty,who's time has come and no army can stand against an idea who's time has come.
Reply FCK TinyMCE
For anyone interested this is part II March 29, 2012
■Governor Wright discussed the issues between Texas and National and gave a little history review
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