I'm trying to learn the best way to help my grand baby. He'll be 2 in August and was just diagnosed with diabetes. I've read on here that a fluke in the pancreas can be the cause of this. Right before taking him to the ER, my herb lady (who by the way checked his sugar level and totally freaked at the number it read) did a reflex test and told us he had parasites. But once the sugar level was read it changed over to all about what to do for that. She told us that it was so high we should take him to the ER. Sure enough they med flighted him to Children's Mercy. Now he is monitored every 2 or 3 hours and constantly watched so he doesn't eat when he's not suppose to and absolutely has to eat the right amount of carbs and such. The thought of him living his whole life like this tears at your heart. Although he's been a little trooper that's for sure. So I want to try to cure his condition and not just control it with insulin. I also know that while trying to cure him he is going to have to also stay on the insulin.
Is there a safe way to go about this? I don't want to do more harm to him. That being said, I also know that there is a natural cure and a reason he has diabetes. I also should mention that he was born lactose intolerant. I don't know if that has anything direct or indirect to do with his diabetes. Just thought I should include this information.
Any information on toddler diabetes will help. I thank you all in advance for your suggestions!
some of the most important parasites are in the bowel wall, not in the stool.
I did PCR testing with metramex also, they missed very very important deadly parasite that they told were negative on these...
Exact reason for this is unclear. Possibly and very likely the parasite load in stool is so low that even PCR misses it. Have in mind some of these parasites live in the bowl wall, this is also the most dangerous parasites as they attack the tissue and can give symptoms all around the body. Several of the best books tell they are often undetectable on these type of tests. We know they live in the bowel wall, this is why they give such horrible symptoms, they attack the body.
Several of the best books says some of these parasites, especially after acute phase, when entering chronic phase these are no longer found in stool but in bowel wall. It is well known from literature stool tests will miss out on these. Still lots and lots of doctors and labs claim they can rule them out based on lab tests that very easy will miss out on them.
An alternative possible explanation (but it seems one for a long time already have the explanation, they live in the bowel wall) is due to the fact that for several of these parasites there are many many sub-types. Very likely also PCR is developed based on some subtypes and will not pick up other subtypes. But anyway there is likely very very very little of them (I am thinking of the very seripous bug E. Histolytica) in the samples Metrametix test especially in chronically sick people. Histolytica lives in the bowel wall and will very often missed on PCR and Stool antigen tests also. We do not know 100% reason for this, but we know this. There could be even several reasons they miss out in many cases. Of course no test method is 100%....but these type of tests seems to often miss bugs like Histolytica. And yes literature seems to have know this for very very long time. They live in the bowel wall! One need to do mucus scrapings from bowel wall, and very trained personal need to do this.
If I had trusted these PCR tests I would have been doomed. Luckily I met a world leading parasitologist that actually did what all the best books says one need to do to rule these out. Mucus scrapings of bowel wall is a must!
I am happy I did PCR with metramex just before going to possibly the world leading expert on diagnostics of a series of parasites.....PCR test missed it...The doctor found it with the very gold standard way of testing....old well known diagnostic method described in the best books, ignored by doctors and labs.
explentaion has been there all the time, in several even old books it is well knan and described that some of these parasites lives only in bowel wall....only in early stage before they digg into bowel wall they are found on such tests....in chronic stage when person really are getting ill they are often missed on such tests.This has been well known from the best books for at least 30 years.
but never be 100% certain...possibly also many of these PCR tests and even antigen tests could be made to detect genetics material (or antigens) based of certain sub-types....but yes some of these parasites have many many known subtypes....but yes I think the best books already have good explanation, they live in bowel wall...to find them one need to look there, not where they not are. You can have the most sensitive test in the world if you use it on sample where there is nothing to be found it will not find it...this even if the parasite can be near by in the bowel wall.
I do not say these labs not can find any parasites, many of these labs can find several of them, I say some gastro paasites they will not find, they should just be used as initial screening, not to say they have ruled out parasites. And if one carefully read the best books it seems like this has been well known for very very long time...but ignored by almost ever medical doctor. Luckily there are still a few exceptional doctors around. They have no secret ticks, they did not necessary come up with any new fancy new method, if doctors just bother reading the books AND following the books...reading is not enough if not turned into practice!
There is a parasite kit for kids that you can get at health food stores (online if not) called ParaGone for kids. It comes in a two part kit, capsules and tincture. There is also Clarkia which is a tincture of 3 herbs (green walnut hulls, cloves and wormwood), which may be easier to administer to a small child. The dose for Clarkia is one drop per 10 pounds of body weight, once or twice a day. Google for Clarkia or use the link at bottom of page.
My daughter suddenly developed hypoglycemia in 2nd grade. It turned out to be parasites. She went on the Paragone for Kids and has been fine ever since. I cannot remember if it was one kit or two that she went thru. For your grandson, it may take a month or more before you see an improvement in glucose readings.
The Paragone for Kids has more herbs that may work a little more thoroughly. You might want to try to get the capsules in him too. Humaworm (Ask Humaworm on Curezone) sells a dewormer for children. That also contains more herbs than the basic 3 dewormer herbs (green walnut hulls, clove and wormwoood). You might want to call them and see what Dr. Bailey recommends.
The advice given is excellent advise, you can be sure to do it. Try to keep him of milk and all diary for 3 weeks, I saw a link between gluten intolerance, diabetes and diary before.
Do not test with metamatxi, as Lineup suggests, and they will find nothing; a waste of your money. Paragone is absolute nonsense, and waste of your money. Find a parasitologist that test your grand child's mucus samples, and that is the best way to find what she has. No, stool tests will not show what she has, because most dangerous paarasites in the tissues.mucus......
I did 50 stool samples, including Metamatrix, they all missed the dealdy parasite I had. So trust no one but someone who does on the site testing of your child's mucus.tissuale sample.
I'm in agreement with Shrimpy here. I listened to everyone on these forums and did a bunch of stool samples. Bottom line: No stool sample was able to identify the parasite I had.
I saw a parasitologist and within 24 hours had my answer.
My advice to you for the sake of your grandson: Go see a real specialist who knows what they're doing.
I want to thank every body for their suggestions. I want to be careful what actions I take. He's so young and this is something you don't want to take lightly. I'm going to try and find a doctor to test for the fluke that is known for attacking the pancreas. It's going to be very hard in the area I live, I'm guessing anyways. I live in the Ozarks of Missouri. Since I have little to no faith in medical doctors makes this an even harder task. I'm a little skeptical on the wormwood. Not that it doesn't work, only on how safe it is for a baby. As far as the back walnut goes, he's been taking it off and on, even before the diabetes hit. This fluke it seems is hard to detect and remove. If you know of any Drs in my area, I'd appreciate any links to find out more about them.
Briboy and I and Tropicalboy know what we are talking about, as opposed to somepeople on this forum who have been here for years and are still sick trying to treat some imagined bogus parasite they think they find in stool samples. STOOL samples will not show your parasites; you will have to find a real doctor who does a muscu scraping and test your tissues samples in the bowel. That is where the parasites are; all of us went to the very best and saved our lives, and we were told that bogus Blastocystis was the cause of our disease.
Please stop listening to people on this forum, who do not know anything about parasites, and they are still sick because they do not know what they are talking about. Take no advice from anyone who is still sick. Do not waste your money with Metamatrix or any other hrroble labs where some idiot at a distant place test your stool and cannot find the real parasites in your tiisues.
Go find a rea parasitilogist who tests your mucus.tissues. I do not know how else to tell you. I got my life back like briboy because we went to the very best.
I am astounded by the number of people who on these forums arequick to dole out advice to people about which labs they should test with (like Meta Matrxis) and which cleansing they should try and what kind of zapper they should try, which kind of diet, etc..., when in fact none of those things have gotten rid of the parasites, and they are still sick, and still do not know exactly what they have....; Please please do not take any such advice; because literally some of it may kill you even. SOme people here advocate even MMS! Poison!
Go see a qualified parasitologist who knows--through clinical experience--yes the operative word here is CLINICAL---how to test properly through mucus scraping of the sigmoid part of the bowel.... that is if you think you you have a a parasite and parasitological symptoms, which can quite easily be mistaken for "CANDIDA", and Bogus C. DIFF" and be even wronly attrubutted to mental states and depressions.....
I regained my life, because I like a few others here finally went to a superb doctor who does this, and my life changed. And all along, because the bogus doctors, and even some dumb parasitologies who put all their worth into stool testing, almost ruined my life telling that I only had this bogus parasite called Blastocystis. I tool Australian CDD both triple Therapies and they all failed; and Jackie Dileny who runs the badbug website has no clue about parasites and gives wrong information about parasites think that D. Fragilis and Blasto are pathogenic. She has no clue. THe Doctor at the AUSTralian CDD BORODY is a crook, and he is making tons of money doing poo infusions and making people sick. HE even doea a bigus infusion for Blastocystis! And after one mone of Negative testing, delcares the patient CURED! He charges 15, 000 for poo translplansts. This should be clearly illegal, because they never know what they transferring patients. Borody has no clue about proper testing. He thinks that people who do not get better with his treatments have "disbiosis"; Borody is a crook, and making people ill.... literally. and he is also a typical Gastro and has no clinical knowledge of parasites... One woman who went there did a poo transplants and became deadly ill, and Borody missed her E. Histolytica all along. PLEASE DO NOT TRUST BORODY OR EVEN JACKIE DILENY. They do not know. Jackie is not in a position give any advice to any body because she herself is deadly ill, and is on disability.
FOr the love of God, please please know that Blastocystis or D. fragilis does not cause disease, and I am a living example of it. As my good doctor, who performs a test that no one else does, told me correctly, it is the untrained lab technician at a distant lab who often mistake some other thing for so called Blasto, and that is the only thing they found for me. Yes, I did fifty---yes 50!--stool tests with so many labs, even by those who specialists in parasites.... like Jetti Katz in NY city, and they all missed my deadly E. Histolytica that had made so so severely ill, wit so many symptoms like sever back pain, joint pain, pain under the rib cage, rashes, hives, insomnia, brain fog, and you name it, and I had it; my liver and pancrease were inflamed, and had dark dark urine, and depresssed completely, unable to get off the couch, severe left shoulder pain..... EVEn the doctor JOHN E. ASHER at Jetti Katz is so badly mistaken to think that stool tests show parasites. HE DID NOT EVEN RECOGNIZE MY SYMORTOMS. WHEN I I told him about back pain and joint pain, he asked me to exrays... AVOID JOHN E. Asher also. John Asher does not do his own research or read at all lates research. He does not even know even the proper meds. I almost died because of these guys. Until the good doctor I found later found the real parasite, and treated it with the proper meds and the PROPER dosage.
I regained my life... and I am forever grateful..... him for this. I cannot repay the debt. I thought I lost everything I had... And the forum people helped nothing at all.
So find a doctor who KNOWS what they are doing. Not some junki who does stool tests..... and trust no one on this forum or any other wbesite who gives you completely bogus advice about trying this and trying that. Or who thinks that Blasto causes disease, because they do not know what they have. Because they have never been a real doctor who does the real thing. Trust your body and listen to your symptoms, and you know when you were well, how things were for you and how horrible things are for you now that you are sick.
Unfortunately some people cannot be helped, because they told themselves a story about how what they have now is an effect of enviornment or some other thing, and now they think they do not have anything because the stool tests are negative.. Yes, there are some people running around on this forum who think the evnvorment now is making them sick! BEcause their stool tests are negative, they think they are cleared, but.....
People who advocate stool tests, including doctors are criminals against science, because anybody who knows scinece knows that such testing often is flawed.... and proper testsing is through the mucus testing of the sigmoid.....
AVOID GASTOR IDIOTS at all COSTS, and if they tell you you have only just C. Diff, yell at them, and sue them; or if someone tells you that now you are sick because you have some Mast cell disease or some other thing, they are mistaken; or that the meds you took damaged you, and that is why you are still sick. Such doctors people are criminals.... who only treat symptoms.... and they are not interested in healing you.
GO FIND A DOCTOR WHO DOES MUCUS SCRAPING. DID I SAY THIS ENOUGH ALREADY? YOU REGAIN YOUR LIFE. TRUST ME.
Yes you said it enough. I thought by my last post that I made it clear that I'm not willing to take any chances with my Grandson's life. I know that diabetes has got to be caused by something your body is either fighting against or is lacking, such as a mineral, vitamin, or something to that effect. I am trying to find a doctor or health professional in my area. It's not easy to find someone to trust as you so clearly pointed out. That being said, there are a few people that have given good advice on here. You shouldn't "Throw the baby out with the bath water" so to speak. You're always responsible for your own well being.Well let me rephrase that, God is responsible for your well being you have to be aware enough to follow his lead. I'm a firm believer in His guidance. I'll know in my heart when the answer I'm looking for will show. He gives you "gut feelings" for a reason. I also am very well aware that stool samples only finds a few out of literally 1000's of parasites that invade a person's body.
Thanks for trying to express the need for not believing all that you hear or are told on here or any other forum for that matter. Rest assured that my baby's health will be carefully examined and nothing that I will do will hurt him. I just want to find the cure before the insulin shots and the treatment for the controlling of the disease does any harm before I find a CURE for him.
"I am trying to find a doctor or health professional in my area"
Unfortunately and surprisingly and shockingly there is likely only a handful or less than a handful of really competent parasite diagnosticians in the whole western world.
Yes local good doctor can rule out some simple parasites to find....but if they do not find anything it dose not at all mean they can rule out parasites. For this one must go to one of the world leading experts (not self proclaimed expert, or just because they work at world famous hospitals) but to doctors that are exceptional interested in what they do.
I have read most of the big books in infection medicine and I only met one that clearly followed what the best books told one needed to do in procedures to rule out dangerous parasites that over years will ruin health . After that I finally got right diagnose, right medicine and my health back.. It was all in the best books, but shockingly very few even infection specialists do what the book tell them to do to perform good diagnostics. There are no secrets, old well known methods and well known horrible parasites (that truly can ruin health if not diagnosed and given right medicine)....it is just even most infection specialists do not follow these books.....the best doctors even wrote some of the best books themselves...but yes all the best books says the same....but yes may be a handful of doctor follow them. I know this sounds unbelievable and shockingly...I had to find out the hard way myself...
The best of the medical Science is great. Great books, great medicines.....and very very very few doctors following what is known....but yes the few ones doing can diagnose what long series of other doctors misdiagnose and can cure... and they don't even have any secretes, just hard working doctors with lots of experience that loves what they do....
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If it was that easy...
Do you think we are discussing and trying alternative treatments on these forums for the pleasure ?"
Again read post carefully. What are saying that if you go to even a parasitologist who rely on just stool test, then you are in a lifetime of misery, becaus stool tests often and very very often do not show parasites. I did 50-yes FIFTY--stoll tests with so many labs, and they missed my deadly E. Histolytica.
DO you not understand this. FIND A DOCTOR WHO DOES MUCUS SCRAPING< which is the proper ways to find parasites, even TRICHURAI AND GIARDia.
DO YOU know that even Giardia is so diffciult to find?
I think you have made yourself very very clear almost to an annoying point, sir. So please do not use this particular discussion to be rude. It pulls away from the subject. I want to learn what others have to say. About your "natural cures" do not work. What the heck? Of course nature has cures. Nature's cures are God given cures. He NEVER gets it wrong. Only the human aspect results in mistakes. It is OUR JOB to do the homework, prove to Him that we really are trying hard and the answer will ALWAYS come !!! I have yet in the 30 years of using the Holistic (notice that this starts with the word"holi"or "holy" in other words) have I not been able to cure something that God has shown the way. So, if your on here to help, I apologize. If your on here for an angry sounding board then find another thread to do it on, please.
I agree with you on many things, but more info would be appreciated. I've never heard of mucus scraping. You can't blame these people. They know they have something wrong with them. Many of them know they have parasites. But, with limited funds and most doctors lacking in education they have to battle with anything they can find. Till then they have to rely upon herbs to keep the populations down. It took me years to finally find a doctor that would send me prazi after finally realizing that I had flukes. A good doctor could have saved me alot of time and suffering. But, how is one to know who is good and who is bad, especially when first learning they could be infested.
Where are these doctors that do mucus scrapings? I found one in New York. I can't afford to just up and go to New York for a doctor's appointment. Haven't found anything else on the net yet except for Koi fish. More information would be appreciated.....
"No stool sample was able to identify the parasite I had."
Yes brian has experienced what many has experienced....stool samples is only initial screening to rule out a few that can be found in stool. Stool samples alone cannot be used to rule out gastro parasites....one of the most dangerous parasites lives in the bowel wall....it will typically be missed on the tests almost every single doctor use, even famous infection specialists uses to rule out parasites...
1. Most labs and doctors even do sloppy stool samples. Best books and papers and doctors says minimum 6 samples, fresh samples taken on each day, looked at almost imidately within like 20 minutes....The best books also give very precise details how to perform this, but I am not going in detail on this here.
2. The stool samples are only for screening of some gastro parasites...yes if one find parasites here and get treatment and get well, then great. But yes the best books are well aware of the fact that some intestinal parasites very very very often will be missed here. The reason is some of these parasites lives in the bowel wall, well known from the books... if stool tests are negative one should go further with mucus scrapings of bowel...
Most doctors do not even do point 1 as they should do it....and almost no doctor go next step with mucus scrapings of stool samples are negative. The consequences of this can be that people goes around with deadly parasites in their bowel wall and a long series of crap doctors tell they just are allergic, have irritable bowel syndrome, just need to relax, and all type of crap...
Stool tests, no matter how accurate, PCR even can easily miss out parasites living in the bowel wall...
Several people on the forum have same experience here, they all did lots of testing finding nothing....luckily a few doctors read the books, do what the books tell them to do....and yes even write some of the best books, and yes most important are able to give correct diangois for patient and a cure from the horrors of even deadly bugs, deadly if one just live with them and listen to a long long series of medical doctors that need to go home study!
you should find a competent doctor (very very very hard to find as most do not read or follow the best books they read) doing screening for gastro parasites and yes mucus scrapings to rule out gastro parasites. Gastro parasites can cause problems all around the body. And yes food intolerance is often one of the signes....there can naturally be other reasons also, but one need to make sure one has ruled out parasites. It is all about going to a competent doctor, again very very hard to find, but yes there exist a few.
Have in mind most infection disease specialists will miss out one of the most important parasites that MUST be ruled out Entamoeba Histolytica, for this you need mucus scrapings. Do not listen to doctors telling it can be ruled out on stool samples (even PCR test), antigen test, or standard colonscopy.
Find a competent doctor with many years experience in parasites and Tropical medicine that also do mucus scrapings, if not doing mucus scrapings the doctor can not rule out what must be ruled out.
Do not accept any doctor not finding the true cause giving crappy symptom diagnose and symptom medicine. Some symptom medicines can be very harmful and weaken immune system when one need maximum immune system to fight parasite until right diagnosis given and right medicine to eradicate them. Right diagnosis is extremely important, most doctors are unfortunately incompetent when it comes to parasite diagnostics, even very many infection disease specialists.
I understand where your coming from. I do not trust the medical drs. I know it's going to be a real challenge to find and then travel to and afford a trust worthy "specialist".
But like I said, I'm searching for a person that cares and knows their stuff. I just want to find them before the side effects of the insulin starts doing any damage. That may already be too late. Who knows how many doses for a baby it takes before it screws up his other organs. I shouldn't think negative thoughts, I'm sorry.
In the mean time I've got the best helper a soul can have on my side. That's why I know the out come in the end will be success !!!
He'll show me the way. Your concern for us is very touching. Thank you.
Know Tropicalbody is absolutely right. But I would add that one of the best doctors I met, after spending close to 20,000 dollars on so many idiots, said that Giardia is also notoriously hard to find and very hard to treat, and need Quinacrine.
I am a 49 year old woman living in Colorado. i have been very sick for the past 2 1/2 years. i have been struggling with some type of protozoa. i have gone to so many doctors and done so many test and have done herbals and zappers. all my tests have always come back normal. my most recent test showed my liver is not working good. i have no more energy. i just want to sleep all day. i have seen many homeopathic practitioners, they all say i have parasites. they have narrowed it down to Leishmaniasis. i was in Bahamas a few years ago and i was bitten by sand fleas. i think that's were i got my infection.
since then my two kids have also gotten sick. my 17 year old daughter has no energy and her stomach is so bloated. also my 12 year son is very sick.
please i am so worried for my children. i am willing to go anywhere. i am desperate to find a good doctor.
thank you
I am a 49 year old woman living in Colorado. i have been very sick for the past 2 1/2 years. i have been struggling with some type of protozoa. i have gone to so many doctors and done so many test and have done herbals and zappers. all my tests have always come back normal. my most recent test showed my liver is not working good. i have no more energy. i just want to sleep all day. i have seen many homeopathic practitioners, they all say i have parasites. they have narrowed it down to Leishmaniasis. i was in Bahamas a few years ago and i was bitten by sand fleas. i think that's were i got my infection.
since then my two kids have also gotten sick. my 17 year old daughter has no energy and her stomach is so bloated. also my 12 year son is very sick."
Did you get the private message i sent; did you go and see Dr. Cahill? I hope he found it....
There are virtually no syndromes and/or diseases that are not reversible. If you are interested in taking control of your grandson's health [and I sincerely hope you are], the following will give you all the information you need:
Any of the discourses by Luigi Cornaro (available free online);
Any of the books by Horace Fletcher (available free online);
Any of the writings of Arnold Ehret.
Just like virtually everything else in life, it is all ultimately up to YOU.
You have all my best wishes for a successful journey and resolution,
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