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  • People who rant - over and over again. by  #133758  13 mon  1,115  Parasites: Protozoa / Parasites: / IBS
    We're all trying to get better. Somethings work for some people and not for others. When something has worked for ourselves sometimes we report back with spectacular results too soon, and other times we feel that since it worked for us, it must work for everyone.

    The thing that really doesn't help, at all, is people who rant and rant about KNOWING they have the correct solution and KNOW that all others are idiots.

    This serves no purpose.

    So now my little rant, which I will not keep repeating because I know people are smart enough to figure it out themselves. Unfortunately, I have to name a name, and you him as an examples because I feel that some damage is being done and needs to stop.

    Shrimpy123 has come on these boards looking for the same solution we all hope for and that is great. He had success with Dr. Kevin Cahill. Some have had success with Dr. Cahill AND some have not. I know this because I have been on these boards for years, seen the name MANY times and messaged back and forth with people on both sides.

    Others have had success with Dr. Thomas Brody of the CDD, AND some have not. I too have written/spoken with people from both sides.

    Obviously you can see the similarity here, that these doctors like anything, can really help some people, or can not.

    It doesn't matter if Dr. Kevin Cahill doesn't believe in Blastocystis being a cause, as it takes loads of research (none of which Shrimp123 can force is BAD research) and the research shows that Blasto DOES cause problems....BUT not for everyone.

    Shrimpy123 your advice to see Dr. Cahill is not bad. I'm -really- not attacking you or that doctor at all but NOT EVERYONE has E. Histolytica, just because he found it in you. AND just because he helped you and he has his opinion, does not mean you can simply call studies of Blasto irrelevant.
    This is useless bullsh*t.

    Everyone is trying to get better. Just getting the message out there that a doctor helped you and how he helped you is enough.

    As for me, Dr. Cahill is now another option and I am happy to hear about him AND his scraping technique (never had that done yet). But I won't just give up on the CDD (Dr. Brody) as many people have also been helped.

    In the end, an argument serves no purpose, I only wish to make the point that it's all about what works and there is no one single solution.


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    • Re: People who rant - over and over again. by  shrimpy123  13 mon  1,079
      "It doesn't matter if Dr. Kevin Cahill doesn't believe in Blastocystis being a cause, as it takes loads of research (none of which Shrimp123 can force is BAD research) and the research shows that Blasto DOES cause problems....BUT not for everyone."

      Since you mention me, and since you have not understood a word of what I said, I want to tell you how wrong you are; you are completely in the dark, about Blastocystis. It is not just me who went to Cahill who had been given the wrong diagnosis of Blastocystis and then later found not just E. Histolytica but something other like Trichuria or even Giarrdia, missed by so many labs. Do you have any respect for those people who were victimized by labs? and other crooked doctors? They were dying, thinking it was Blastocystis. How do you EXPLAIN THIS? YOUR BOGUS claim that Blastocystis cause disease in some and not in other will not EXPLAIN anything. Hundreds have come to Dr. Kevin Cahill with this nonsense Blastocystis story, and then he find something else. Not always E. Histolytica.

      Several people now on this forum who were diagnosed with Blastocystis and then they were al found to have something else by Dr. Cahill.

      It is not just Dr. Cahill who CONFIRMED Blastocystis is not pathogenic. It is also another world class doctor, Dr. Martin WOlfe. who has hundred of patients coming to him with this bogus disease....; WOuld like to dismiss him too. Because you read some silly report about it on the internet? NOt trust these two doctors who have CURED hundred who initially came to them this bogus diagnosis.


      You really do not what you are talking about except just tautologically repeat that in some people Blastocystis is pathogenic. ABSOLUTE NONSENSE. TWO WORLD CLASS doctors, who know about parasites, who have years of CLINICAL experience, yes, CLINICAL, have affirmed this to me and hindreds of others that Blasocystis does not vcause disease. You have seen them and tried their meds? Blastocystis is what most idiotic labs first report, because they do not know how to identify triue pathogens. DO you know even why? DO you even CARE? WHEN HINDREDNS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THIS ERRONEOUS DIAGNOSIS, and think they received a death sentence, and then try nonsense trying to get rid of it, while suffering.... all the while.

      YOu have no understanding of parasites. YOU are the one who is ranting pal.

      You obviously have not understood anything I have written. I am not an expert on parasites. But those two doctors who gave me my life back are. NO BODY NEED TO TRUST ME OR YOU. TRUST THESE DOCTORS WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

      Yes, if you have Blastocystis and you think it causes disease in you, because you got the WORST subtype, then you must be some unlucky guy! This is what I was led to believe bogus websites and other m*o*o*n doctors like Borody. SOme theory: Blastocystis just decided to attack one guy and not others.....

      DO YOUR Reasreach first, and go and see the real clinical experts who know what they are doing, before making bogus claims about Blastocystis and mislead people.

      You have the audacity to even mention Borody? He is a gastro idiot, who knows nothing about parasites. DO you EVEN KNOW THAT? And he is making so many people so sick and making so much money off of people, by doing poo transplants, when they do not get better. Giving them a bogus diagnosis of "disbiosis"; DO you know that even?

      One last thing: Most doctors who make claims about the pathogenicyt of Blastocystis do not know how to find parasites. Because they all trust some silly "DISTANT" lab, thinking that stool tests will show parasites. I am sure this is what you also believe right?






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      • Re: People who rant - over and over again. by  shrimpy123  13 mon  981
        Did you even read this:

        http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1934261#i


        http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1406589#i



        Yes, even traveller123, was not so unlukcy, ha, according to your theory, because he did not get the worst subtype?

        So I am not the only one on the forum who had found eventually that Blastocystis does not cause disease.

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        • Traveller123 was ranting too? about bogus Blastocystis? by  shrimpy123  13 mon  1,011
          http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1406589#i



          yes, even the doctor who CURED him, correctly told him that Blasto does not cause disease. Again, he must be one of the lucky guys because it miraculously did not cause disease in him! (just kidding, if you did not note that.) In fact, thanks to him, I initially began to suspect this story about blastocystis because of his story.....

          He too tried the Borody meds, and they did not work for him; because the pathogen he had was something else.

          You say you never heard of mucus scraping. Well, that says something about a person who like to purvey these claims about Blastocysis.
          Like so many others, I almost died, trying to treat this. And visibly I am angry at the doctors and the bigus reports written by incompetent m*o*o*n researches who published reports saying that Blasto is pathogenic. HAd I trusted those reports, I would died a miserable death. I am only trying to tell the victims of such bogus information that they have a way out.... of hell.. if they find the correct help.

          It is amazing for years not a single person on the forum ever mentioned Dr. Cahill's method.... mucus scraping, as been the best and the most effective for diagnosing parasites, and how stool tests are so completely unreliable and why? WHy did people not know this? WHile someone in NY was practicing this method....; an honorable doctor... with vast Clinical experience, authoring so many CLINICAL texts for other m*o*o*n doctors...

          Most people on the forum were al asking people to try this lab and that lab, in vein...; Had they read some of the best books on the parasitilogy, they would easily found out this information..... because it was mentioned. But this "dirty" has been abadoned by doctors. And ask Borody who has not had a day of training parasitology, know about it!

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          • Re: Traveller123 was ranting too? about bogus Blastocystis? by  #133758  13 mon  938
            You're angry? No kidding. This only proves my point.

            But to be balanced, what about the ones that Dr. Cahill didn't help?

            So you're telling me over 120 published reports of Blasto being pathogenic are false because...let me get this straight....ALL their methods are wrong?

            As I said before, I have nothing against Dr. Cahill, or even yourself. AND I do believe the Dr. Cahill is providing help.

            Though you are making it hard to see how 'cured' you are with all this obsessive ranting (AND NO, I'm not saying you are not cured), it's all fire and brimstone. You write with a level of fanaticism that isn't needed.

            You think people really listen to you when you say they don't do their research (as most of us have lived with this for years), or call everyone with a different opinion a fool (or whatever name seems to fit), seriously, if this has indeed helped you, calm the f**k down.

            EVERYONE in here has been through some sort of hell, don't make your case seem like it's somehow the worst.

            Explain why you love this doctor, support him, spred the news - but do it with some sort of intelligence not condescending force.

            And no, I'm not going to waste anymore time responding if the responses are just 'freak outs'. Otherwise, I'll gladly carry on this conversation.

            Hope you continue to feel better.





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            • Re: Traveller123 was ranting too? about bogus Blastocystis? by  shrimpy123  13 mon  1,057
              So you're telling me over 120 published reports of Blasto being pathogenic are false because...let me get this straight....ALL their methods are wrong?"

              I would agree to converse with her person who is polite? And use profanities! I am angry or you?

              What on earth do you know about Blastocystis? Yes, I am saying that reports are flawed because they published by doctors who know nothing about parasites, and who cannot find the true pathogens. This is proven by so many of us? Anybody could publish a paper, in any journal, and then claim Blasto is pathogenic, because they do not find anything else! Do you not get this point. I just sent a woman on the forum who was diagnosed with Blastocystis, wrongly. Then Cahill found in her Trichuria and Giardia. Do you have a response to that?
              And why all the labs she tested missed those two pathogens. This only fit the picture. I did more than 50 stool tests, and they all missed E. Histolytica. This is th case with briubody, tropicaboy, Jazzy and so many others on the forum.

              If you wish go on believing what you read in reports done by incompetant doctors at your own peril. Stop using profanities and asking me to calm me down. You need to calm down; I have something to rant about. YOu do not.
              YOu obviously had not even heard about something called mucus scraping?

              Some of us found this hard way. Because we did our research. You do not have do any research. But do not come out here and say that we are ranting about nothing pal. I have nothing to say to you. Because your appealing to the authority of some papers published by imcompetant doctors who know nothing about proper testing only leave you in the domain of non-science that passes for scienece. When you get CURED and find out what you havce, the you can speak with authority about what you had.

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    • Re: People who rant - over and over again. by  TropicalBoy  13 mon  925
      A series of Infection specialists in London also says Blastocystis is non pathogen, well in people with normal immune system, even part of normal flora can be very dangerous in people with hardly any immune system.

      People that was diagnosed with Blastocystis and then got well by treatment for it was likely just lucky that the medicine knocked out another undiagnosed pathogen parasite... this also told by several experts on Tropical medicine.

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      • Re: People who rant - over and over again. by  TropicalBoy  13 mon  987
        The big books recommend not treating blastocystis, yes they report some papers claiming pathogen, other papers claim not so....the big books only accept well documented science...it is not well documented balstocystis is pathogen....(except in people with compressed immune system)

        Almost for sure the balstocystis idea will be proved dead wrong!!!

        Now yes many papers suggest it possibly could be pathogen, because they found no pathogens, but we know they did not test properly for pathogens, so this is why a series of Tropical disease experts says it is almost for sure non-pathogen....

        that some people treated for blasto get well is no evidence for blasto being pathogen... If you give every sick person some antibiotics then by luck some will have a pathogen cured by that antibiotic, even if something totally different...

        many people here have been first diagnosed with blastocystis, and tried many treatments for it, including the ones suggested by CDD, they relapsed (quickly) and never got well in first place (but yes often better for short while, this is understandable, as some of the meds have effect agains many type of parasites, but not necessary cure as not optimal meds for real cause), ....it would be very very remarkable how this parasite was pathogen and resistant even to triple therapies specially designed for it....much more likely and good research and logic points in the direction it is non pathogen and a boughs idea some doctors came up with because they never did their homework properly....

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