Hey everyone, it's Daniel again. I just finished creating my documentary for peeling lips to help spread the word out there about this condition, to hopefully shed some light and give others hope that this is cureable.
Please take a moment to watch it and share it with others on your facebook and twitter...we need to get this out there, and if you find that you are embarrassed to actually show people you have it, showing people that others have it might be the first step you need to take, which is why I have provide a well-made video that sums up a lot of what we're going through as well as providing information on how to start helping yourself.
I am not comnpletely cured yet, but each week my lips are improving exponentially. I am on week 11 now, and my lips feel better than they have felt in years!
Please check out the video and share it with the world so we can get this known. Also let me know if you guys liked it or not...I really want to help everyone because this has been so horrible for me to deal with the last 4 years....
youtube vid is sweet! keep up the good work man! you said you had this condition for 4 years how long were your lips really chapped and you were using lip balms like crazy before the huge break out?
i use chap stics like crazy for about 6 months and my break out happened about 1 year ago so for me my lips have been screwed up for 1 and half years! finally took the plunge to leave them the hell alone! on week 3 right behind although like i told you before i do shower once or twice a week and brush my teeth twice a week!
Yes my lips have peeled for about four years, only the last year and a half though were they at their worst.
I have been using lip balms my entire life. Only gradually through Middle School and High School did I feel the need to have it on me constantly. I wouldn't say I had a "huge breakout" it was more of a gradual thing for me. A very small part of my top lip was affected a couple years ago, and it grew more and more after each month.
I'm so happy you've decided to heal yourself the natural way! Let me know how fast they are healing with showering and getting them wet, I'm interested to know!
I am with you 100% that the natural way is the way to go, however it is extremely difficult for anyone to have to go thought this "all natural stage" and as much as i want to be cured, given everything that is going on in my life now it is simply unbearable for me to go though this. I was wondering what your say is on using nail scissors to trim the already peeling skin off of the lips? I have minimized the use of lip ointment to twice a day (morning and before bed) so ive pretty much gotten rid of chap stick but i always carry around a small nail scissors and trim off the parts that have begun to peel throughout the day, do u think this could be in some way negaive?
At least I feel I am doing something by not using chap stick every 10 minutes anymore. Also, i gently wash my lips with soap once a day to remove the slight part of the buildup that is mainly just white stuff, and I make sure to leave the layer of skin underneath still attached to my lips (it will peel off within a few days). This makes it much easier to not feel the need to apply chaspstick throughout the day, not really sure why, they still feel dry but i have learned to fight the desire to moisten dry lips.
What do u think?
The video was amazing, and it is much more effective then reading words. I hope you will continue to upload more videos with any progress or just to update everyone. I will be awaiting your next upload and based on how you improve will determine how myself and many others will motivate ourselves to try the all natural treatment someday.
Thank you so much for your compliment on my video, I really appreciate it...hopefully it eventually will be the video that provides the motivation to start the natural healing process once people see I am cured, and have the proof that everyone has been searching for.
I can totally understand how difficult healing your lips is going to be...it's been the hardest and most embarrassing thing I've ever had to go through in my entire life, so I can completely understand why it might be impossible for you. What I would suggest is setting up a game plan where you lay out a timeline of things you're doing now that you must finish, finish those, and start healing once you are finished.
As far as what you are doing now, most of it sounds awesome! Your lips will continue to heal themselves either way, it'll just take much longer. Doing it twice a day will be fine for now...however PLEASE do not use soap on your lips!!!! That is the worst thing you can do for them, soap kills the good and bad bacteria and is unnatural to the body and causes pH imbalances. I rarely ever use soap on any of my body except my underarms to get the deoterant off. Which is only every few days. It sounds weird I know, but your skin will feel so much better and no you will not stink.
As far as the nail scissors, I think that should be fine for now, just keep in mind the body does need that extra top layer on there so it doesn't send the new cells into the top layer once you remove it. However trimming it off until you're ready shouldn't be a problem, just try your best to not pull or rip on the skin to take it off. I know it's hard not too.
So yeah, stop using soap on your lips and I can bet you almost anything the dryness feeling should go away. Oh, and what brand of ointment are you using? When I was using chapstick right before I started healing myself I tried to stick towards 100% natural products, like burts bees mango...try to get something that doesn't require you to rub hard for it to come off, the mango kind seemed to be the best for that. Also if you can try rubbing it on your fingers before you actually put it on your lips and get a good glob on your fingers so it doesn't rub your lips as much...that's what I found worked best for me before.
I'm so glad you liked the video :) I worked hard to make it look as professional as I could from in my room, and you have nothing to worry about I will upload at least one video each week, usually on friday, and pictures throughout. :)
Keep me posted on your progress with what you're doing.
Hi I have watched your video and as I have ever said I wish you the best and I appreciate all the work you have done up to now, very precise, complete, well provided.
I like the way a bit sectarian when you mean, in the video, that there is finally a solution, with the subtile song behind, we almost belived that God, who haven't do anything for us until now, come to deliver us a message!
Anyway, I agree completely the natural way and the leaving lips alone. What I am very sure about is when I was using chapstick and chemicals, my lips condition was deteriorating more and more and as soon as I stopped, it was even worse.
I remember, a little time before I saw these ugly lips covered by flakes that I played with my lips but not at the point of having horrible lips and I think my condition started because of the Winter during which I started to apply chapstick and since that moment, I realized that flakes were coming to appear, without knowing why, but, since that period, I know that I did never be able to split up with chemicals at the risk of having horrible lips, I was drop in a vicious circle.
I think that leaving the lips alone is the only way to get cured, with of course a good way of life, even if we can't have a normal life, socially speaking precisely, but a good diet and hygiene, you know.
Also, I think the most important point is just the lips detoxication of all those poisons we put in, and that they get back their natural hydratation, that is all.
The point is that I don't think that leaving the lips alone without getting them wet is useful, the dead skin is just dead skin which is stuck on the lips and for the most ugly part of these flakes I think it is useless.
By comparison, I get three cuts slightly deep on my fingers and I don't avoid them to getting wet or something and they are naturally fixing.
Of course our lips are a semi-mucous and what we have to avoid is getting them in contact with chemicals, like shampoos, and soaps, etc. but I think water is not harmful at all and enable the useless dead skin to come off without hurting the rest!
Anyway you will keep going in your way and I support you more than ever.
On my side, I hope I will heal rapidly. I can't live with it. I am 20 and I have wasted my past two years. If it keep going, I would probably visit God to have a discussion.
I appreciate everything you wrote, however the main thing I wanted to comment on was about getting them wet.
Everyone seems to ask me why I don't want to get them wet...and I've been hesistant to answer that question because I am still expirementing with the answer. However I've pretty much figured it out, and am ready to give it an answer.
Since I'm mainly the only one who has done it for this long and wrote about the expirence throughout the whole time, and I've talked about it in my vlogs that I've made, what happens when you don't get them wet is actually something spectacular...
The lips are a mucous membrane, however to be completely honest the skin gets almost all of it's moisture from the water we drink, it doesn't need to get wet in order to be 100% functional. In fact it's quite the opposite, as our skin has a waterproof barrier on it that prevents water from getting inside. You'll notice the barrier is rubbed off on parts like your hands, fingers, and feet where there is a lot of friction. When you soak those parts of your body they wrinkle up which is soaking up the water, however the rest of your skin does not wrinkle up, which indicates that skin is not soaking up water. You can test this in the bath and do a little research and you'll find this to be accurate.
Therefore, the lips do not need to get wet in order to heal, and getting them wet honestly impedes the healing process as in my first approach in 2011. Now, to the thing that I've been hesistant to talk a lot about is this liquid that forms under the "dead" skin. The lips are a mucous membrane so it knows how to produce its own lubrication that is needed, when they are healing it actually produces more, and my lips under the dead layer will fill up with that liquid it's a yellowish-clear liquid and sometimes has a slight burning sensation as it is being produced on top of the lips. If you leave this liquid sit there for as long as possible you will see how well your lips are being rebuilt. I had this expirence just last week when it was about 1.5 to 2 weeks that it sat there on one side and my lips felt amazing...however a lot of times there are holes that it escapes from and air gets in causing the liquid to dry.
When I was getting my lips wet every single day my lips would feel very dry everytime I got out of the shower...and they never produced this liquid that they are producing now...and I did it for two months last time.
It is my firm belief that this liquid is the building blocks for the natural barrier on the top of the lips, and is needed to complete the healing process.
I know this is long, but I wanted to stress why I feel not getting them wet is important...as long as you are dinking plenty of water (which I am drinking a lot of water each day) then your body will give your lips the water that they need, external water is not needed...and in normal lips they don't soak it up anyways.
These are my thoughts and based on my research and expirence, I can almost guaruntee you your lips will heal considerably faster if you don't get them wet.
I've left them alone, showered with a bag over my head, and have been drinking through a straw. This morning I awoke having the crusts fallen off, and my lips now look normal, even with the grooves back. This is the first time my lips have been in this condition since before they were damaged, which was around 6 months ago.
A potential heal for the 'leave them alone' method.
That's really exciting! Let me know how long it takes before the skin turns hard again, each week the time frame should get a bit longer. If you've only had EC for 6 months you are very "luckY" so your healing time should be considerably less than most people's who have been dealing with this for years.
Let me know if they are healed or not, and, if not, how the skin is looking after a week or so. Oh an as for showering with a bag over your head, I guess that's one way to do it, I just avoid letting the water touch my face and it is working really well as well.
Admire you for doing this and I can see improvement. Only advice I would give you is to get some nail scissors instead of clippers as you will find it easier to trim the loose skin. Also I would trim more regularly than once a week it wont affect the healing underneath, leaving so much crust provides a great environment for bad bacteria and funghi to breed so I would avoid leaving it that long.
Thank you for your message! I'll look into nail scissors, as sometimes the nail clippers pull on the skin, so that sounds like a good idea!
However on your other comment, if you start this you will see that it is all about "leaving them alone" I have never once had any bacteria grow in a scab on my knee or arm or anything, no matter how long...also I've been doing this for almost three months now and have had zero problems. Hoenstly, the KEY to fixing your lips is to take the skin off as little as possible, I wouldn't touch them at all if I wasn't embarrassed, and my lips would likely be healing faster than they are if I didn't take anything off.
It's vital to leave the top layer of skin on as long as possible as it is the barrier and protector to the new skin growing underneath, once you remove that top layer it causes the skin underneath to act as the top layer and thus stops the healing process completely for that layer. It will take considerably longer if you take the skin off, and maybe never will heal as if would be the same thing we are doing now in a sense.
Bacteria isn't a bad thing anyways, your body has an immune system and bacteria is good as it gives it something to do...it needs bacteria (good and bad kinds) in order to stay healthy and be able to fight off harder infections. The body knows what it's doing, so interferring as little as possible will be the best and quickest solution to healing your lips...this is based on my expirence doing this...and it's working very well.
Thanks again for your support, I greatly appreciate it, it means a lot to me! :)
1 how do you sneeze? as were trying to keep them completely dry i find when i sneeze the lips stretch and tear a tiny bit. do you find the same thing its very painful!
2 when somebody makes you laugh and you smile a tiny bit does you lips move alot and maybe tear a little bit were it is loose?
3 you should try for a cycle not to clipper them what so ever would be interesting to see.
i leave mine completely alone let the skin grow wild! its very ugly and hard but i feel the longer the scabs stay on the better what do you think? i agree with your theory the top layer is trying to act as a barrier while the skin underneath try's to repair its self back to normal anyways im off have a good one!
so 1...when I feel a sneeze coming on I try very hard to control my mounth and keep it closed, and sneeze though only my nose. Keep your teeth tighly closed and make sure your lips are together and kind of "go with the flow" so to speak so it comes out smoothly through your nose.
2...yes lauging is the most hardest thing to control and when I laugh I have to forcefully keep my lips together and much as possible...it's very hard and yes it can cause the skin to tear, but it's just something you'll have to deal with, I always make sure to let my family know not to make me laugh and remind them if they start to joke around...so it doesn't happen to often anymore
3...The only time I use the clippers on them now is when the layer of skin has completely separated from the layer underneath and it is no longer acting as a barrier and the skin underneath is already hard...so it actually isn't doing anything but haning on. If air can get through then it isn't doing it's job so it's safe to remove it. If that makes any sense.
So yes, leave them on as long as possible, but once you see that they are no longer doing anything to help the skin underneath then you can feel safe in removing it, however make certian the skin underneath is already hard and that you don't pull on the skin when removing it.
Hope that helps a little bit! I'm going to start a FAQ section on my site, as I get a lot of the same questions that I feel I haven't really answered on my site, so keep the questions coming! :)
Daniel,
Do you hide in your house or let people see your scabby lips in public? This is the problem with leaving your lips alone, but it is worth taking the time off if it works. What do you think of others whose lips healed with the Montreal Homegrown diet? I think they still got water on their lips. I appreciate your video. Please keep us posted.
hey mike
so you have completely keeped your lips dry for 6 months?
do you brush your teeth and do you drink through a straw?
also you should upload some pics so we can see your progress would be good to notice change. as i am also keeping lips dry and leaving them alone! im on day 21 now so my crusting is out of control very hard but if it works it will be worth the pain. also did it take 6 months to see improvenment? or did you see any improvenment earlier? and how long did you have ec for? thankss
Actually I still go to work every day and my second job once a month until my lips are healed. And I still go out in public and go to restaraunts, the movies, etc...just not as much as before...but I do stay home a lot, and try my best to avoid public situations. But it's getting easier after a couple months.
And I actually don't know anything about the Montreal Homegrown Diet, so I have no comments for that...
I plan on putting a FAQ on my page explaining the no water on lips, it's burried somehwere here in the comments as someone asked about it a couple days ago if you want to search for it about why I think it's important to keep them dry.
Jojoba oil on the lips at night works great. I use a product called RESTORZ handmade soap its all natural and it really helps my acne and psoriatic skin.
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