Just something to think about whether to determine if more of your candida is in the colon or small intestine. When you eat a candida feeder food pay attention to when you get your bad symptoms from the candida feeder. For example,If the majority of your bad candida like symptoms come 10-14 hrs after eating a meal than you more than likely have more candida in your colon. If the majority of your symptoms come 3-4 hours after you eat than you might be dealing with more candida in your upper small intestine.
If almost all of your candida like symptoms occur long after you eat...(How ever long it takes for candida feeders to reach your colon)... Then enemas might be more benefit than oral supplements. As Jorge said its hard to say how much of oral candida supps really reach the colon.
Regardless of where the candida is, once your body becomes tolerant to the candida, it will give you symptoms via the toxins in your bloodstream. The reason for doing the nystatin enemas and other kinds of enemas that clean out the colon, is to give your immune system a break from some of the toxins that are being delivered, so that it is better equipped to deal with them in the future. It also gives your body and organs a rest, and also clears out some colonies...ofcourse.
Its amazing how candida's toxins in the colon can make you feel. I thought candida's toxins could not effect someone that much in the colon until I experienced it.
James,
I am almost convinced the overgrowth is in the colon.
The body has mechanisms to keep the small bowel almost sterile.
I bombarded my small bowel with an enormous amount of powerful Rx antifungals plus naturals, and my symptoms didn't go away.
However, since doing the enemas, they began to subside and disappear. One great thing about the enemas is you can see the monster coming out. You can inspect the toilet and see it.
Remi96 was almost 10 years in this forum looking for answers. She targeted the colon with the enemas and recovered. She did only water enemas that make a lot of sense since candida colonies are on the mucus that cover the intestinal walls. Candida colonies don't have the way to attach to anything but to stick to the mucus layer.
One time you have emptied the colon doing several enema rounds with water, you have an empty pipe, so the water runs freely.
That part of the enemas is the most important. Michelle (Remi96) always pointed how she saw a huge amount of colonies when the water came clear. ( last two rounds )
I think mucus get softened by the water. The water flow going out take with it the colonies. It is like a tsunami for candida inside the colon.
It takes time, I have been doing it for around 4 or 5 months very frequently (every other day or diary) I do it at night, spending almost 1 hour.
Fungal colonies and toxins are going out and I am feeling better and better progressively. I am totally symptom free and still can see colonies coming out. The same thing was described by Remi96. Now, you can image the amount we can have inside. I have taken more than 45 pictures.
About the bacterial flora, I have no concern since what I feel is get better and better. It means that what was inside of my colon was what had me sick.
It must be out. I feel normal again in the same way I was before this nightmare. I blamed myself of no hearing Remi96 before. The same think probably will happen with many who don't want to hear now. They probably be mention it in the future.
That is my experience.
I will say this. There are candida colonies in the small intestine. Because leaky gut is a symptom of the small intestine...and many of us do suffer from leaky gut as well. With severe leaky gut we find it impossible to assimilate and absorb nutrients. So you cannot say that the candida is solely in the colon. It is in the colon where the toxic load is felt heavily....and given the fact that there is a vein there that connects to the liver...it can give you liver type symptoms too...and causes the liver to filtrate a lot of toxins. So the enemas are good at taking the load off the immune system...and it makes it easier to clear the colonies in the upper small intestine. Oral route is therefore also very important...as are supplements that heal the small intestinal lining...such as glutamine, ALOE VERA (very important), DGL, slippery elm....and so on. It is when I started to take these supplements three times daily...along with some heavy dose probiotics at night...that I started to feel a massive purge of candida colonies....and saw them in my stool when I did coffee enemas. I never did antifungal enemas...but can imagine what would come out if I did. I might try some just to purge of what little is left.
I know for me the majority of my symptoms come from the colon, but i still get a decent amount of symptoms in the small intestine. I think some candida likes to hang out just past the duodenum after the food has been nuetralized. I seem to get some symptoms 3-4 hrs after I eat. I would probably do some kind of probiotic enemas after doing continous rounds of anti-fungal enemas. Maybe fecal transfers would colonize the best?
Would this work for someone currently fighting mercury posioning?. I would imagine that the enemas would work in the short term for cleaning out candida colonies in the colon, but with heavy metal supression taking place within the body how could you ultimately get rid of these colonies?. Considering that mercury/heavy metals continue the immune surpression continually,the candida will just come right back. I've currently got a pretty bad candida overgrowth, so would these enemas work for people like us who have metal toxicity or not?.
Our good flora outnumbers our cells 10 to 1...so they estimate that anyways. So with that in mind it is our good flora which inhibits the candida and keeps it from coming back. Mercury/heavy metals is toxic to all cells including candida. Getting rid of mercury/heavy metals might increase the efficiency of our immune system/improve our overall health but it is not going to replace/rebalance the good flora that was lost through antibiotics/toxins etc... The hardest part of this battle is trying to get candida down to the minimum so that the flora has a chance to repopulate and regain its territory back. The damn candida can multiply so fast its a pain in the a##. The battle becomes extremely difficult when the candida has wiped out nearly all the flora in the GI tract. Then the problem is-- by the time you've killed off a good amount it seems to repopulate that amount right back and in the meantime you get terrible die-off syptoms. So your almost better off trying to "inhibit" it/slow its metabolism down for a while until it gets more under control. Trying to restore and "rebalance" the flora that has been lost can be quite the battle...just ask people that have been battling SIBO for years upon years.
Yes, absolutely. Enemas are the universal treatment. I can not assure everybody case is a colonic fungal overgrowth, but if so, enemas is what remove the fungal colonies.
I thought like you time ago.
The small bowel is an almost sterile place. HCL, pancreatic enzymes, bile, sodium bicarbonate released by the pancreas control the microbial growth there. Another thing that doesn't allow is the intestinal transit, the SB is a high traffic area. People experience SIBO have intestinal motility problems.
I had what you may consider a severe leaky gut. I don't want to mention what I have taken to correct it. Image yourself. Go to the archives an began to review my posts to realize what I have done.
The colon is the place where short chain fatty acids are produced. Those are the fuel of the intestinal lining cells.
If there isn't correct production of short chain fatty acids, your small bowel lining atrophies causing leaky gut.
Most of the symptoms you think are caused by leaky gut are antibody reaction to candida toxins. Candida metabolizes carbohydrates and toxins so its metabolic wastes also contain molecules of it that later act as an antigen.
Let quit the theory, I haven't taken a single probiotic, nothing to heal the gut, and I am totally normal. Eliminating the gross of the fungal colonies that were living in my colon, the rest has returned to normal. Who knows the complete explanation ?? What matter is to recover, let god to put the things in the right place.
I disagree with that part of the article. I won't take Kefir during the first months.
Kefir has casein, lactose, and yeast. 3 top allergens for candida sufferers.
Who did say Kefir kill candida ??
I would like to see a serious study.
Kefir culture is a society of bacteria and yeast living together. How is possible Kefir kill candida ??? Are the yeast strains present in kefir what kill candida ?? Dude. Bacteria present in Kefir don't kill candida. If that were true, all the yeast strain living in Kefir culture will be death.
Have you thought about that before ??
The web is full of myths. Kefir isn't an antifungal.
You're right, the web is full of myths.
You know where I got that myth from? The web article you just told us to read. Did you even read it yourself?
The more you post, the more you wreck your credibility pal.
If you don't want to spread the "myth" that kefir kills candida, stop telling people to read that article.
thanks
AND don't talk call me dude. Now you're starting to sound like a teenager.
And, you show me a scientific study showing that Kefir doesn't kill candida. You're not that scientific, you even said so yourself. Show me the scientific study disputing that Kefir kills candida. SHOW ME.
If you're that concerned about people spreading stuff that you don't believe in, just read the articles fully before you tell other people to read them. you spread this myth yourself Jorge. I'm talking about the gut fermentation article you posted. How can people believe what you say, when you don't even read your own articles thouroughly. It seems you cherry pick what you want to believe and leave the rest out. Can we really believe what you say now?
Stop talking to people like they're idiots and that you're a world authority. Because the more you go on, the more I realise you base your authority on talking with conviction and not on Science or sound reasoning.
And talk about science, I have access to almost all scientific journals, and I can show you a recent study that has just found over 100 species of fungi, unknown to man in the gut. We don't even know if this candida. Show me a study that proves this is candida that is causing our problem. SHOW ME. THere are plenty of things that we can respond to with: "Show me the scientific study ..."
I wonder what else we're killing with these enemas besides the culprit of our illness. Or is it even a culprit? Is it a bacteria that is inhibiting some other bacteria from inhibiting growth of "candida". Or is it a bacteria that is promoting the growth of "candida". Science hasn't told us yet. Just because it responds to anti-fungals, doesn't mean that a fungus is the root cause.
Nobody says that we know all.
I am trying to help because I know the amount of suffering and misery this syndrome bring. I know that article since 3 years ago and don't have to read it every day, neither every time I have posted it. I brought it because I remember to have read in it how the small bowel should be sterile and how she says " resolve the problem in the colon and the rest will normalize "
I can not read every article I post since many of them are saved in my computer for long time. I also don't pick all from every article but get pieces for the missing puzzle.
I don't care if you do the enemas or not, that's your personal problem. What I am telling and confirm is I tried many things to recover ( read the archive ) and I couldn't do it. Like me, many curezone poster have tried all and are still sick.
I don't know if your health problem is an INTESTINAL FUNGAL OVERGROWTH, I am sure my is.
So far, I haven't found any other way to be symptom free that this one. If some of this information has value for you, pick it up, if not, let it goes.
I don't care what hell you do with your life. Don't read my post to be questioning me.
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