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  • detoxing by  tcmh  10 mon  702  Iodine Supplementati
    I posted several weeks ago about not being able to sleep and got a response about filling 11- 8 oz water bottles with one drop of Iodine each week and drink a certain amount of the mixture each day.

    I'm confused about filling 11 water bottles, why can't I just fill one 8 oz water bottle with one drop every week? How do I avoid the detox symptoms?

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    • Re: detoxing by  trapper/kcmo  10 mon  613
      100mg a day, thats how you beat the detox.

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      • Re: detoxing by  Frederic2k  10 mon  747

        I'm now on 100mg and the detox is really, really heavy. There is so much bromid being dumped that I get frightening emotional issues like depression, anxiety, psychotic behaviour. Should I stay at this dosage ? I'm scared of hurting/destroying my thyroid.

        Thanks atrovant for destroying my endocrine system.

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        • Re: detoxing by  trapper/kcmo  10 mon  567
          if it gets to be too much you could pulse the dose.

          are you sure you are taking 100mg total iodine? if you have SSKI it would nt hurt to do many times more than that, but at least double it.

          salt should help this and vitamin C. sodium ascorbate is my choice.

          hydration is important. salt pushes for the kidneys to prevent buildup.

          hang in there, it gets better soon.

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          • Re: detoxing by  Frederic2k  10 mon  591

            Yes, I'm sure that I take 100 mg Iodine from lugols solution.
            I do Salt pushes and take extra vitamin c but this helps only for an hour, then my irritability and all is coming back. And I think it is really the bromide which is doing this. My pee is dark-green-yellow no matter how much water I drink.

            First I suspected some heavy metals stirred up by iodine but DMSA has no effect on my sympstoms.
            Perhaps Im so loaded with bromide because of atrovent usage in the past.

            I just being a little scared that I damage my thyroid with excess iodine.

             

             

             

             

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            • Re: detoxing by  trapper/kcmo  10 mon  564
              your thyroid should be fine. be sure youre getting selenium and boron.

              sounds like you have a lot of bromine, for sure. you can still take more iodine. up to 300mg is not too much with lugols. placing some magnets on your bottle may help as well.

              please keep us posted as to your progress.

              be well.

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              • Re: detoxing by  Frederic2k  10 mon  635

                trapper:

                I'm currently taking: 
                100 mg Iodine
                6 mg Boron
                400 mcg Selenium 
                1000 mg Magnesium as Magnesium Malate
                2-3 gr Vitamin C

                For Adrenals:
                Adrenal glandular 400mg
                50 mg Zinc (every 3 days)
                Vitamin B-complex
                Vitamin A&E

                For heavy metals (60 rounds of Cutler protocol done before):
                DMSA occasionally when I think something is stirred up because I also take some MSM and NAC for Copper detox. I think I have here at least some problems because I don't tolerate any copper in supplements, I was a copper personality in the past, but still some copper problems today (copper dumping)

                Sadly in germany there are no iodine-doctors and so I have no oppurtunity to do a 24 hour urine iodine loading test to evaluate the bromid levels. The doctors I tried wanted to give me psychotropic drugs because they think I have a mental problem when they hear that I take such amount of iodine. But in fact iodine, heavy metal chelation and nutritional balancing are the only things which really helped me, not so the psycho drugs, bromid containing asthma inhalators and amalgam fillings they gave me in the past. School medicine poisened me a lot...

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

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        • Re: detoxing by  Black Bear  10 mon  539
          The first time I took Iodine I had the same exact symptoms, it's bromide, I only took 50 mg's though. I didn't know about the importance of selenium or salt loading when I did it. It took me about a week and a half to recover without doing anything except one salt load on the last day when I learned the importance of it.

          I cleared up so much Bromide from the first time I took Iodine that I didn't have anything but good reactions the 2nd time I took 50 Mg's (1 month later). 1 week after my 2nd dose, I started 100 mg's, and now I'm taking 100mg's twice a day.

          I'd suggest following Trapper's advice. He is damn smart when it comes to Iodine. I think the slow and steady way works, and it is a good way to see how polluted with halogens you are in the beginning. It is also like putting your foot into a pool for half an hour because you're not looking forward to the cold shock.
          By taking a high amount like 50 or 100 mg's at the beginning, you're basically jumping in and getting the hardest part over with all at once instead of tipping your toe in getting a little bit cold and fearing for the worst everyday.

          It sounds counterproductive, but high doses definitely work.

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          • Re: detoxing by  Frederic2k  10 mon  546

            Thank you for your encouraging words.
            I'm really sure now that my main issue is heavy bromide poisoning. When I first took iodine it was only 12,5 mg but the detox reaction was so heavy that I got serve depression, ataxia (walking like a drunken person), heavy anxiety and so on. But I guess it is no wonder that there is so much bromide in my system because I was on Atrovent for 10 years and consumed it 4-5 times daily. Uummmhh...

             

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    • Re: detoxing by  grizz  10 mon  650
      tcmh,

      You can fill as many or as few bottles as you want. The point is to titrate VERY slowly over a several month period.

      This procedure minimizes detox each day and each week so as not to be noticed, such that your liver & kidneys are not overloaded with more toxins that can be handled.

      Some people do well with trapper's 100mg all at once. However I think that some people are so loaded with toxins that they can get REALLY sick with the resulting toxic overload.

      We have had NO PROBLEMS reported from our go slow procedures, even from people who are EXTREMELY loaded with toxins.

      Try Trappers 100mg procedure, and if you have too many problems, you can use our procedure.
      - - - Week 1 drink 1 oz (~30ml) daily (about 380mcg iodone)
      - - - Week 2 drink 2 oz (~60ml) daily (about 775mcg iodine)
      - - - Week 3 drink 4 oz (~120ml) daily ( about 1.5mg iodine)
      - - - Week 4 drink 6 oz (~180ml) daily ( about 2.3mg iodine)
      - - - Week 5 drink 8 oz (~220ml) daily ( about 3.1 mg Iodine or about 1 drop per day),
      - - - Week 6 drink 2 drops per day in a glass of water
      - - - Week 7 drink 3 drops per day in a glass of water
      - - - Week 8 drink 4 drops per day (about 12.5mg = to 1 iodoral)
      * Next, Titrate up with iodoral 12.5mg iodine tablets available at Amazon.Com
      - - - add 1/2 tablet each month to eventually reach 50mg daily-refer to Dr. Brownstein’s Book
      - - - 50mg Daily is the dosage target recommended by Dr. Brownstein to overcome toxins
      * If any detox symptoms appear do the salt flush and pulse dose. (all listed below)

      Complete details here:
      http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references


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      • Re: detoxing by  trapper/kcmo  10 mon  586
        what is needed is cleansing, flushing and fasting. the more of these things people do, the better the start of Iodine goes for them. trying to do this chemically with iodine in this manner actually cheats the person out of the other benefits of cleansing, flushing and fasting. iodine cant do everything.

        i have yet to see higher doses fail to make a person feel better. the higher the dose, the shorter lived the detox is.

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        • Re: detoxing by  grizz  10 mon  616
          Trapper,

          Is your complete program documented anywhere? including the cleansing, flushing and fasting & how long to do these before starting 100mg iodine.

          How long & what kind of cleansing, the precise flushing program & how to fast?

          I would LOVE to scrap the go-slow approach because it takes so long even though the results are good.

          Many thanks,
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    • Re: detoxing by  Ginagirl  10 mon  537
      "I'm confused about filling 11 water bottles, why can't I just fill one 8 oz water bottle with one drop every week? How do I avoid the detox symptoms?"

      - seems like you are complicating things. You can fill one bottle or a glass or whatever you like and find convenient.
      I put my Iodine in my morning smoothie, or in my coffee etc.

      The detox symptoms is not always possible to go around, but are lessened with vit C, magnesium, saltloading.


      Taking one drop every week is not enough IMO; even my cats get more iodine than this !! much more :-)

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