"For me a "minimum" MC is 21 days. If I'm gonna put that much effort into it I'm gonna get some "real" healing out of it even if it's just for preventative measure."
**** i feel the same way... i think right now i'm ready to go 21 days!!! that means MCing throughout my visit to toronto, canada :p:p !!!
"At day 22 right now for me it's a walk in the park including a 2 day camping trip and paddling white water. The biggest thing I miss is the social aspect because so much is based around food and/or having a few drinks."
*** i SO know what u mean.... :-(
"Part of the big enjoyment for me when I camp is fixing elaborate meals by the fire but I just shut it off this weekend and I was just fine."
***hm...!!! it would be nice to go camping with you!!! :D my hobby used to be EATING until i got sick......!!!! :p my non-sick weight is 100 pounds, so i was never too big, so i could indulge in eating without fear of gaining weight or anything... :p !! sigh.. i miss those days...:-( but i guess i will never indluge in chocolate etc. like the way i used to, even after i get well.... !! MORE FRUIT AND LESS CHOCOLATE :o !!!
"A huge portion of a successful MC is your mental attitude. You can not allow yourself to whine or entertain any negative thoughts and attitudes which is something that goes on this forum way too often which helps no one and much less the one doing the whining."
***hehe.. but sometimes "collective whining" can give us strength though... after you commisserate together, u don't feel alone any more, and realize that things aren't as bad as they seemed when you were alone.... :)
"Prolly the best thing you can do for your health in between cleanses is to start juicing veggies daily. Not only will you get some readily assimilable mega nutrition but you can tailor your juices to address any particular ailment. "
****which juicer do you use? i'm thinking champion...
"Wheat grass juice is an amazing food and I encourage you to do a little research on it's benefits. Adding veggie juices and wheat grass juice to your daily diet will keep your system detoxing gradually and help you strengthen your digestive system and your whole system in general."
*** i was taking Dr. Schulze superfood mix with my banana shake every morning before i started MC.... what's your opinion on superfood mixes (spirulina, chlorella, etc.) they were giving me some strength.... :)
I own a Champion that I bought used at least 15+ years ago. Those things are indestructible. I had to replace some part a coupla years ago and they asked for the serial # so they could get me the part. Well come to find out that my juicer was built around 1959!!. I went ahead and replaced the whole front assembly for $60 so I'm ready for another 45 years of service :=) Actually I really would like to get the Green Machine because of it's slower grinding which doesn't introduce oxygen and start the oxidation process. They also claim that it has some other magnetic voodoo in the grinder that helps preserve the juice so you can premake your juices and they save refrigerated for a coupla days. With the Champion you pretty much hafta drink juices right away. It would be nice to be able to make a batch of juice to last the whole day in one sitting.
When I'm towing the line I use a powder by Nature's Plus called Source of Life that is made from foods and and also contains all the green super-foods. The nutritional content of this stuff is pretty amazing providing you with mega doses of most essential vits and other essential goodies. I make a shake with apple juice and add 2 tbsp of Flax Oil for my EFAs and that's usually how I start my day. I tell ya if for whatever reason I don't get a meal that day this stuff will carry me the rest of the day. I have also used a super greens food powder called Greens plus. BTW healthy fats or EFAs is one of the most often overlooked things in any diet and especially any vegetarian diet so in either case I highly recomend that you look into adding Flax Oil or another blend like Udo's choice to your daily routine. Lots of good info on EFA info at Barleans.com or udoschoice.com
As far as the wheat grass I tell ya I was spoiled by having a juice bar half a block from my house and after you do that stuff fresh squeezed everyday you can't even think of doing it any other way. The rush you get from the fresh stuff is almost instantaneous. Part of my backsliding has been that I moved and I miss my daily 2 oz dose. Part of the reason I would like to get the Green Machine is that unlike the Champion it also does Wheat grass. I would have already gotten the GM but the darn thing is around $400.
wow the green machine sounds really great!!! :D too bad about the price tag :( !!!!
when i make my superfood drink in the morning i tend to alternate between flax oil, coconut oil and olive oil, depending on how i feel that morning :p !! coconut oil smells the best but i think olive oil tastes the best....:o) !! i'm one of those people who actually ENJOY drinking the OO and GRAPEfruit juice mixture for the liver flushes :p:p hihi.... (i told you i was a pig and i like to eat practically anything).....
anyway thanks for all the info... actually when i first got your message i thought you were yelling at me and i was all hurt and stuff :p (it was during my second day when i was at my sickest so i was all sensitive and such:p) but then i realized that you were just trying to help :D so i decided to ask questions instead... heheh... and i'm glad i did :> !! i hope i make it to 40 days eventually, but at the moment i'm shooting for 21... after that i will take it a day at a time... it will be my 8th day tomorrow :D !! (and i'm travelling to toronto tomorrow, so it will be a very 'special" vacation :)
I have tried the coconut oil and did use it a couple of times for cooking and I do like the way it tastes but I'm reltively sure that while it provides some healthy fats it does not provide the omega 3 & 6 which are the main components of the essential fatty acids.
I like the flax seed oil enough that I could just take it straight if I had to and the olive oil, I can take that on anything and like you I'm perfectly OK with it in the LF with the GF juice.
Sorry that you thought I was yelling but when you've been around this forum as long as I have and are a lousy painfuylly slow typist you cut out the howdy do's and get right to the point. I always aim to inform and give comprehensive details to anything I post. Have fun in Torornto!
wow one wouldn't know that youa re a slow typist... i touch type.. that's why i go on and on and on.... well, u get the idea :p:p hehe...
i plan to be CLOSELY CONNECTED throughout my toronto visit (my friend there has a fast connection, so it will make it easy) ... this one is going to be a memorable and unique LEMONADE VACATION for me.... :D !!!
thanks again 1277... looking forward to our next chat...:)
they gave it to me as a young teen for acne. all it did was make me puke if i didn't have a overfilled stomach before taking it. needless to say i through it out.
also i was just curious what you thought about doing a parasite cleanse? you are under wieght, have trouble gaining weight, over salivate... these are signs. k *end hijack*
with me, after i took two days' worth of doxycyline, the third day i woke up and I COULD NOT EAT, FOOD TURNED to sand in my mouth cos i had no saliva, then got stuck in my throat, my whole world turned upside down, and i've been sick ever since (it's been 9 months) :(( !!!
with one weird symptom after another turning up :(((
i've been slowly inching my way towards health doing one cleansing after another...
thanks for you suggestion about parasite cleansing...actually i've already done MH'S dewormer for 30 days, and plan to do a coq-10 bomb stuff i've hearda bout, after i'm done with MC... i also have done parasite enema (using Clarkia ) which helped a lot as well... via liver flushing i also got rid of some WEIRD LOOKING SPACE ALIEN TYPE shit... which i think were parasites... YIKES!!!
AND I HAD LIKE 5 LARGE ONES (LARGER THAN A QUARTER) AND A COUPLA SMALLER ONES :O !!!
THAT WAS DURING MY SECOND LIVER FLUSH.... i was so freaked out i couldn't even bear to look at them any longer than necessary, and flushed right away!!! :-( even though i should've taken a picture of something... i had goose pimples all over :o !!!!
that's it, i am DEFINATELY gonna do a Liver Flush after this MC. i want to zap first tho... have you done anything out of the ordinary, like traveled to africa, or asia or somewhere? are you a sushi eater? any pets? i have a cat, have eaten veggie rolls @ sushi places (before i knew) & have gone back & forth from mexico all my life. should be interesting (to say the least!) to see what kind of lil creatures i have... blegh
in the past 10 years i've been to asia, australia and canada and europe, but i dont' think my travels had much to do with my parasites -- :\ i've been to mexico once but only to remove my Amalgam fillings this year... and that was just like a 2 day visit to tijuana :p
BUT,i am or should i say i used to be AN AVID SUSHI EATER :((((((( WAHHHHHHH!!!!!!
SUFFICES TO SAY THAT i haven't had a sushi for like 6 months now.... :( (it's also bad for mercury toxicicity, which is what i got, thanks to my amalgam fillings, which also made my liver particularly weak!!! and weakness overall makes happy playground for parasites :(( !!!!!!!!
i also got out like a TON of leaf looking things... like little dark green leaves? i mean, since i NEVER ate anything that looks like them, i'm thinking they must've been like flukes or something.... i used to get them when i do Clarkia enema, but the last two times i did it, i got nothing, so i'm thinking i'm relatively clean now (FINGERS CROSSED!!)
anyway i'm SOOOOO glad all those things are OUT of me..... :o !!!!
day 7 starting here on my MC.... feeling good!!
also i haven't lost any weight which is GREAT!!!! COS I REALLY dont' want to lose any more weight :) !!! when i did oj fast for 3 days i had lost like 3 pounds, so this is so much better....
I PLAN to do my 7th flush after this MC... which i think i will take past the 10 day goal i had set -- !! i can't wait to get more gunk out....
hey tracidead, sorry for the last message ! apparently modifying the MC diet in ANY WAY is a bad idea... who knew? i got the info straight from the curezone pages itself so i thought it was like something accepted and condoned. but apparently not. they should update the site in that case.... :-( i hope you are still going well...
Hang in there. When I did my first MC I thought I was truly going to die. My head pound so hard. It was intolerable but I prayed all night long and had others praying for me. It was to the point where I told my children if I died cleaning myself I was going to die prematurely anyway because there have had to be some major toxins in my body.
Just hang in there, you may get some joint pain, vomitting, nausea all this is toxins releasing themselves.
Don't quit! The first three days are the toughest, at least for me they wer. once you get over that hurdle, you really will not feel as hungry anymore. I always want to quit on the first or second days of cleanses, but it is worth it to stick it out. Hang in there...you're doing great. You'll thank yourself later! :)
Yes, now I'm on day three, and it was a piece of cake, pardon the expression. Hope tomorrow goes just as well as today!:) Thanks for the encouragement!