It is interesting to read these problems that some readers seem to have with Candida . Threelac has been banded by some as a cure all . In some ways it may well be . You have to understand a number of basic points about ones body to be able to see why that may be so . You also have to realise that your body is quite finely tuned and that eating the way we do today does pose problems for our digestive tracts. Modern medicines, although excellent in many ways cannot foresee some of damage that they do to our Intestinal Bacterial cultures. The result of antibiotics, long term poor food or just a straightforward stomach bug can damage the beneficial bacterial colonies in our intestines. This is what we call Dysbiosis or a state of imbalance of intestinal bacterial flora.
A healthy human intestine has some 300+ specie of bacteria. These are predominantly beneficial in a healthy person and responsible for a range of essential duties. The intestines are also home to a small number of harmful bacteria, usually kept in check by the abundance of beneficial bacteria. The balance is the important element. While the friendly ones predominate all is healthy, but imbalance allows the pathogenic (harmful) organisms to grow out of control.
Beneficial bacteria actively manufacture nutrients and chemicals( Vit B12 and K) that are an essential part of our metabolism and play a role in a whole range of the body’s needs, including immune function and hormone regulation. Minerals Magnesium, Calcium, Zinc and Iron are only absorbed with the help of bacteria. When bacteria are damaged, not only do we suffer from the deficiencies of these nutrients and chemical reactions but the pathogenic bacteria are able to infect and create toxins which the body ( liver and intestines )cannot detoxify. The beneficial bacteria are essential for detoxification. These toxins damage body tissues and some are known carcinogens. Other bacteria have been directly implicated in immune disorders that lead to disease.
But I have digressed into the complexity of the problem, so back to the issue.
Once you have accepted that this be true you need to undestand that the principle of re-colonising the intestines with beneficial bacteria is important. This will redress the balance and knock out any harmful pathogens. You also need to understand a little about Candida , and its life. Simply put it is a fungus, living agressively in situations where the immune system has been compromised ( remembering that the intestines are fundamental to the immune function). Candida is a parasite , one that is more prevalent today than ever ( not to be alarmist - but just to be considered seriously). Its method of colonisation is not to kill its host but to colonise where it can. So the first place is the gut. But it does outgrow its surrounding and then becomes invasive, growing finger like projections. This allows it to puncture the gut wall ( and all the problems that entails ). ...But the typical Candida symtoms are not a result of the puncture but of the waste products and the breakdown of these waste products. This is what gives the symptoms of Candida ( and that is while it is living normally- un tackled) so after you accept that concept you arrive at the product that helps fight a fungal infection. Antifungals whether drug derived or probiotic will kill Candida . Accept that concept and then you get to the need to deal with the waste products of that dead material. The liver function ( that of detoxifying chemicals ) has been overloaded for a long time ( Candida symptoms appear only as a result of the liver being overloaded - it can probably manage for many years in the background without you even feeling the effects of having Candida). So now its overloaded. It has a new wave of toxins form the effects of you killing off the Candida . It cannot manage it at the same speed as you are continuing to kill off the Candida . This is what makes so many feel so unwell. This is where the problems of " Threelac is a scam" originate . One of the writers is precise in his advice , "modulate your dose , even stop for a couple of days" to let the liver play catch up. Naturally , no one person will have an equal liver function / Candida kill off ratio , so it is very difficult to say how much "antifungal" one should take and how long the process of eradication will be . But that means we all have to become responsible for ourselves. That is not soemthing we are good at anymore . We can easily find someone to take the rap for something not being exactly as it says on the tin!.
Digressing again . So if you accept the principle of the Liver function, and the need to modulate your own dose accordingly you should hsve the principle for getting yourself better .
It is vastly more complex than that . It does include diet changes .It requires an understabding of the gut bacterial flora, and what they need to feed on ( fibre) and it may well be that you need to find the source of the original "dysbiosis". There is ample chat on this forum for parasite problems . That does need to be considered as a reason for the return of Candida. The other main reason for the return is that although you may have beaten the Candida fungus , the balance of bacteria has not been adressed. The re-colonising of beneficial bacteria is important - and then offering them the right foodstuffs ( in your diet - not as a supplement !). This allows your body to do eaht it has been "designed" to do. Once you allow it to absorb all those essential minerals vitamins and balance its pH ( acidity) then you have the secrets of a healthy life .
It does sound simple in the end - perhaps preventing a dysbiosis in the first place would be preferable , but we ask for so much today by way of quick this that and the other , that we are not listening to what our bodies actually need. - that sounds a little facile - apologies.
In sum . Those that take too much Threelac do have problems . This is widely written about . It is the waste material of Candida ( but very often mis-represented as the healing crisis).
I have worked with Candida and Threelac as www.candidafree.co.uk. If anyone reading this would like to take up the argument please do - for all to see - but please don't put people off from trying something that has improved the life of hundreds of thousands of people- .
In reading through your posts, I discovered why ThreeLac did not work for you. You wrote: "After a year or so on everything out there, like ThreeLac, oregano oil, olive leaf oil, fish oil, ALA, MSM, Pau D'Arco, garlic, Colloidal Silver .....,".
FYI, oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, concentrated garlic supplements and especially colloidal silver ALL KILL THREELAC! So does grapefruit seed extract and any other antibacterial product, even though they also claim antifungal properties.
You most certainly did waste your time, health and money on ThreeLac because you were killing the live bacteria in the product. If you want to know how to take it properly, check out http://www.CandidaFree.net for instructions.
You sound like you have an ax to grind. Threelac for my wife was a literal Godsend. And she had also tried everything else under the sun. I am thankful every time I see the box on the counter. Why would you be so vehement about this? Even if something doesn't work for people they don't go all over the forums sounding off like you do.
If you read the literature regarding all these products, it tells you that you cannot take them all together, in fact tells you NOT to. Why? Because #1 they will overload your body when taken in too high quantities or in conjunction with each other. Secondly, some of the supplements mentioned in the above article actually counteract each other, preventing any of them from working properly. For instance, antifungal remedies can often render probiotics useless. It was specifically mentioned not to take antifungal supplements with Threelac or it would kill the beneficial bacteria within it. It is even suggested that overloading with an array of different counteractive methods actually inhibits the bodies normal defenses and immunity against these specific conditions. I would guess this decrease in normal function, overloading with supplements, and counteractions between supplements are what caused the above mentioned situation to occur.
Supplements should not be taken without study and knowledge into the actual function of the product on the body, and supplement (and drug!) interactions must be carefully avoided - or a person could not get well, or even get worse. It is way too common in this country that, because something is "herbal" or "over the counter," people think it is safe and easy and won't interact with anything else. This is entirely untrue. Always educate yourself (completely, and away from advertising sites,) or consult with someone who is educated on the matter.
I can't see many of the things you listed causing kidney problems and hypothyroid. It had to be something you were eating in conjunction. And the reason you were probably feeling worse and worse was because your body wasn't eliminating the toxic load from the candida die-off. In order for your body to do this correctly your liver and gallbladder need to be functioning properly which you can assist by taking milk thistle and dandelion. Also, you need to take a fiber supplement like psyllium husk, or aloe vera to speed transit time and help keep good bacteria flourishing. There are many factors here as to why you ended up feeling "worse and worse". Another thing, is that Colloidal Silver (although touted as healthy) is actually poisonous to the body (do your own research on this and you'll agree). Maybe that's why you ended up with kidney problems. As for hypothyroid problems, that's most likely related to diet. Were you consuming a lot of soy or containing products? This could be a contributing factor.
I have been prescribing Three Lac to patients for a long time. It is my understanding that this product should be used for only 3 weeks and not indefinitely. Depending upon how bad the candida is...dictates 2-3 packets per day of three-lac. I have the patient do the spit test to show them that they have candida. After 3 weeks the spit test shows negative and the candida is gone. One must take the proper minerals so that the craving for Sugar is gone and the candida does not return. This is a 3 week program...and not a permanent situation.