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  • EXPERIENCE: possible solutions to flush problems - (my personal opinions...   R by  Mary  11 year  19,731  Liver Flush FAQ
    My ideas and opinions on how to make this work for me!

    Keep in mind I may be wrong, I am no expert.

    Problems and possible solutions to them, feel free to add your solutions. Your
    ideas could be better than mine and probably are. I think we all have the same
    concerns, so we should share our solutions and/or ideas.

    I also think people should also be more descriptive when naming their thread.
    Gallbladder cleanse as a topic does not tell much.

    The Epsom Salt thing is yucky mom!:
    I don't plan to do this if at all possible. If something tastes that yucky, I don't
    think God intends for use to put it into our mouth. Also, I was told by an herbalist,
    Epsom salt is hard on the Kidneys Personally, I have never tried drinking the stuff,
    but I will take everyone's word for it on how horrible that it tastes.
    Recipes that include apple juice don't seem to include the Epsom salt.

    In my view, the reason for the Epsom salt is to open up the bile ducts so that large
    stones can get out.

    My solution to this: use liver cleansing herbs to shrink stones so that the will be
    easier to pass. I mentioned these on another thread - dated 13:46 Apr 16. Title
    of thread: Herbs to help the cleanse to be more successful...


    Olive oil tastes yucky and makes me gag:
    possible solutions:
    1. Put olive oil in blender with the lemon juice, blend then drink real quick
    before they separate again. This improves the taste
    2. Try a different kind of oil next time. But always use cold pressed organic oil.
    No sense in toxifing yourself again after going to all the trouble to do a cleanse.
    I plan to try either sesame oil (That seems to be a light tasting oil), or maybe
    beef fat. (the stuff that floats on the top on beef broth). Try anything
    that does not make you gag and let us know if it worked.
    3. If anyone knows of a light organic cold pressed olive oil and where to purchase this,
    let us all know. I think extra virgin oil is so very thick and strong tasting.

    Lemon juice burns is hard on my stomach and is so sour:
    Possible solutions:
    1. Try Grapefruit juice
    2. Lemon juice is supposed to work better so try a combination of the citrus's
    together. (lemon and grapefruit, orange, lime and/or possibly pineapple)
    Why wouldn't pineapple work, it is acidic? Just ideas here folks. I have never
    tried it.

    I can't use apple juice because I have candida:
    possible solutions:
    1. skip it then
    2. use malic acid pills
    3. read gallbladder cleanse and candida

    Colonics/ enema/ colon flush - I don't wanna! :
    The purpose for these are to clean out the intestines so the Gallstones can get out.

    possible solution:
    skip it!
    I don't think this is necessary or natural. Personal opinion here.

    I plan to clean out my colon by eating stuff that I know will clean me out.
    God put lots of stuff on this earth that are great for that.

    ideas:
    corn
    applesauce/ apple juice
    prune juice

    I plan to use Broccoli, since I am allergic to anything else that I can think of.

    Burning Butt:
    Bile stung my butt on my first flush and gave my hemorrhoids.

    Possible solution: Unpetroleum jelly on the area to protect it.

    What to eat before flush and why:
    Avoid Fat- because when you don't eat fat the bile does not move thus creating
    pressure. When you drink the oil the bile should rush out due to extra pressure.

    so avoid meat/ dairy/ nuts/ seeds/ avocados/ garbanzo beans (all fat).

    Eat light:
    You don't want the intestines to be full of food when gallstones are
    trying to get out.

    I would also avoid grains. They are very filling and them might contain oils??
    I would stick to fruit and veggies and veggie soup/broth.

    Sleep on this side or that:
    I really don't think it matters. You are not trying to get the oil into your gallbladder
    but to get the bile out of you gallbladder. You can swallow standing on your head so I
    don't think the gallbladder needs the help of gravity. And besides, who wakes up in the
    same position they fell asleep in.

    Afraid of messing up! "

    Just a thought:

    I read someplace, can't remember where, that the first gallbladder flushes
    where probably just purely accidental.

    The book said that probably after a long winter when food was scarce, people ate whatever
    they could find (probably fruit or veggies), then after a week or more of minimal eating and
    no animal food, someone caught a wild boar and since they were very hungry, they ate quite
    a bit of this fatty pork and wa la! Bile rushed out pushing out stones along with it, which is why
    cleanses work better in the spring. This is nature's time table. Probably their stones did not get to
    the sizes ours do, due to a better diet and yearly forced spring fasts/flushes.


    Mary



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    • Re: possible solutions to flush problems - (my personal opinions only) by  Mike  11 year  7,491
      My ideas and opinions on how to make this work for me!
      >
      > Keep in mind I may be wrong, I am no expert.
      >
      > Problems and possible solutions to them, feel free to add your solutions. Your
      > ideas could be better than mine and probably are. I think we all have the same
      > concerns, so we should share our solutions and/or ideas.
      >
      > I also think people should also be more descriptive when naming their thread.
      > Gallbladder cleanse as a topic does not tell much.
      >
      > The Epsom Salt thing is yucky mom!:
      > I don't plan to do this if at all possible. If something tastes that yucky, I don't
      > think God intends for use to put it into our mouth. Also, I was told by an herbalist,
      > Epsom salt is hard on the Kidneys Personally, I have never tried drinking the stuff,
      > but I will take everyone's word for it on how horrible that it tastes.
      > Recipes that include apple juice don't seem to include the Epsom salt.
      >
      > In my view, the reason for the Epsom salt is to open up the bile ducts so that large
      > stones can get out.
      >
      > My solution to this: use liver cleansing herbs to shrink stones so that the will be
      > easier to pass. I mentioned these on another thread - dated 13:46 Apr 16. Title
      > of thread: Herbs to help the cleanse to be more successful...
      >
      >
      > Olive oil tastes yucky and makes me gag:
      > possible solutions:
      > 1. Put olive oil in blender with the lemon juice, blend then drink real quick
      > before they separate again. This improves the taste
      > 2. Try a different kind of oil next time. But always use cold pressed organic oil.
      > No sense in toxifing yourself again after going to all the trouble to do a cleanse.
      > I plan to try either sesame oil (That seems to be a light tasting oil), or maybe
      > beef fat. (the stuff that floats on the top on beef broth). Try anything
      > that does not make you gag and let us know if it worked.
      > 3. If anyone knows of a light organic cold pressed olive oil and where to purchase this,
      > let us all know. I think extra virgin oil is so very thick and strong tasting.
      >
      > Lemon juice burns is hard on my stomach and is so sour:
      > Possible solutions:
      > 1. Try Grapefruit juice
      > 2. Lemon juice is supposed to work better so try a combination of the citrus's
      > together. (lemon and grapefruit, orange, lime and/or possibly pineapple)
      > Why wouldn't pineapple work, it is acidic? Just ideas here folks. I have never
      > tried it.
      >
      > I can't use apple juice because I have candida:
      > possible solutions:
      > 1. skip it then
      > 2. use malic acid pills
      > 3. read gallbladder cleanse and candida
      >
      > Colonics/ enema/ colon flush - I don't wanna! :
      > The purpose for these are to clean out the intestines so the Gallstones can get out.
      >
      > possible solution:
      > skip it!
      > I don't think this is necessary or natural. Personal opinion here.
      >
      > I plan to clean out my colon by eating stuff that I know will clean me out.
      > God put lots of stuff on this earth that are great for that.
      >
      > ideas:
      > corn
      > applesauce/ apple juice
      > prune juice
      >
      > I plan to use Broccoli, since I am allergic to anything else that I can think of.
      >
      > Burning Butt:
      > Bile stung my butt on my first flush and gave my hemorrhoids.
      >
      > Possible solution: Unpetroleum jelly on the area to protect it.
      >
      > What to eat before flush and why:
      > Avoid Fat- because when you don't eat fat the bile does not move thus creating
      > pressure. When you drink the oil the bile should rush out due to extra pressure.
      >
      > so avoid meat/ dairy/ nuts/ seeds/ avocados/ garbanzo beans (all fat).
      >
      > Eat light:
      > You don't want the intestines to be full of food when gallstones are
      > trying to get out.
      >
      > I would also avoid grains. They are very filling and them might contain oils??
      > I would stick to fruit and veggies and veggie soup/broth.
      >
      > Sleep on this side or that:
      > I really don't think it matters. You are not trying to get the oil into your gallbladder
      > but to get the bile out of you gallbladder. You can swallow standing on your head so I
      > don't think the gallbladder needs the help of gravity. And besides, who wakes up in the
      > same position they fell asleep in.
      >
      > Afraid of messing up! "
      >
      > Just a thought:
      >
      > I read someplace, can't remember where, that the first gallbladder flushes
      > where probably just purely accidental.
      >
      > The book said that probably after a long winter when food was scarce, people ate whatever
      > they could find (probably fruit or veggies), then after a week or more of minimal eating and
      > no animal food, someone caught a wild boar and since they were very hungry, they ate quite
      > a bit of this fatty pork and wa la! Bile rushed out pushing out stones along with it, which is why
      > cleanses work better in the spring. This is nature's time table. Probably their stones did not get to
      > the sizes ours do, due to a better diet and yearly forced spring fasts/flushes.
      >
      >
      > Mary
      >
      > I have found that sucking on a NICE cough drop immediately after taking the epson salt helps greatly to eliminate the nausiating effect. Most of the naseau is caused by the smell and a cough drop
      covers the smell. Also a little vicks vaporub in the nose helps.
      >
      >

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      • changed my opinion, just so you know by  Mary  10 year  7,101
        I have changed my opinion on colonics.

        I have started them, because I have MCS and can not tolerate any suppliments or herb and got severely under weight using colon cleansing herbs and kidney flush herbs. I felt that my only choice now is water.

        I don't feel they are natural but, neither is a prolaped colon, a balooned colon, impacted fecal matter, and MCS all of with I have. I believe my problems stem from constipation since I was a child, caused by lack of exercise, iced tea (caffine is dehydrating) with lots of sugar, lots of asprin (caffine like substance)for leg pain from infancy, not drinking enough water, poor diet (SAD diet), and antibiotics.

        I am so often wrong I am a bit leary of posting again.

        Mary

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    • Re: another suggestion by  chrissy11  9 year  6,987
      I like Mary's suggestions, and I have one other to add. For someone who wishes to use Epsom Salt but can't bear the taste, I find adding just enough powdered lemon or orange drink (like Tang or something) to give it some color, the liquid won't be sweet but the citrus taste completely masks the epsom salt. I have been able to drink this like a beverage without wretching at all. I suppose a little lemon or orange juice would work too, though I haven't tried that.

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      • Re: another suggestion by  kirill91  5 mon  694
        Hi I've just registered to this site but have been doing the Andreas Moritz liver and gallbladder flush, I am 21 years old and a dietetics student. I just wanted to share my experiences with the flush and where u can go wrong I hope this helps people!BTW I am doing my 10th flush tmoro and my last flush has yielded some calcified stones!

        So here are my notes:

        I have experimented with the Andreas Moritz flush and this is what I found, firstly at one stage I thought when taking the first 2 doses of Epsom Salts in the evening that it might be a good idea to drink plenty of water so as more water gets drawn into the colon to completely clear GI tract but this should not be done because it puts an even greater strain on the walls of the inetestine and when u take the olive oil mixture very few stones will come out, the following morning u will mainly find thousands of tiny cholesterol crystal stones.

        Also I have found it best to fast as from ur last meal the previous evening, although allowing an apple and apple juice in the morning, this means that when u take the Epsom salts u do not go to the bathroom at all before drinking the olive oil mixture which I think is best because when I have had to go to the toilet just before the oo mixture is was far less successful and that is because your intestinal system is in major excretion mode and not willingly ready to digest food, and also it keeps the Epsom salts in ur system and keeps your bile ducts relaxed.

        When I did the cleanse following Andreas Moritz's style it felt like some stones got blocked in my common bile duct the weeks following, I'm just saying that this happened for me personally, I admired Andreas very much! I hope this can help anyone having trouble, if u have any questions just let me know I just want to help and make the process easier for other people x

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