The only significant difference (beside temperature) between conditions outside and inside of human intestines is... guess what?
OXYGEN!
This is what we know about cholesterol stones - stones that 90% of us pass while flushing liver:
- stones never melt inside human intestines (people have been passing stones 24 hours or sometimes even 72 hours after drinking olive oil)
- stones get exposed to bacteria, virus and yeast while passing through human intestines
- stones are not water soluble
- stones always dissolve in alcohol because cholesterol is alcohol soluble
- stones almost always melt when exposed to air (within 24h)
- stones can be preserved by freezing
- stones can be preserved in formaldehide (at room temperature)
- if we leave stones floating on top of water (at room temperature) - stones would almost always melt
- if you wash your stones with cold and clean water, and then you expose them to the direct sunlight (not too hot sun - winter sun) stones dry and remain hard - resistant to air and room temperature
- oxygen can affect the way bacteria behave
We know that OXYGEN affects stones, but we don't know if it is just a chemical reaction or if it is a bio-chemical reaction (a reaction resulting from bilogical activity like presence of some bacteria or yeast).
Considering these 3 facts:
- washing stones in clean water and exposing them to the direct sunlight is sometimes sufficient to prevent melting (but not always). Some stones are hard enough, and are very easy to keep and preserve, but other stones are just very soft and easily melt no matter what we do.
- keeping stones floating on water almost always results in melting of the stones
- stones can be preserved by placing in formaldehide
- sunlight kills bacteria and yeast
These are the facts, the results of observation of stones from hundreds of different people.
Based on those facts, we can conclude with some degree of certainty:
stones are melting because of bilogical activity like presence of some bacteria or yeast.
To further test hypothesis that stones are melting because of bilogical activity, I urge you to test your stones:
- keep your stones at the room temperature, inside water containing some strong natural antibiotic, like for example herbal tincture made from: grapefruit seed extract, tobacco leaves, cloves, wormwood, thuja, salvia officinalis, black walnut, ...
- try to preserve your stones inside vinegar
- try to preserve your stones inside lemon juice
- add citric acid into water and try to preserve your stones by keeping them inside
- try to analyze melted stones under microscope, looking for live bacteria or any other life sign
Please report your results to this forum so that we can update our understanding of stones composition, chemistry and biochemistry.
I'm a 67 y/o medical doctor. I retired from active practice ten years ago because of a chronic illness which has grown progressively worse and is characterized by dizziness on standing or sitting erect, exercise intolerance, and multiple food allergies. Until recently it has gotten to the point where I was unable to digest my food.
My first two liver flushes didn't yield any stones. On my third flush, I used 4 oz safflower oil mixed with pear juice, three times, an hour apart, after the two doses of Epsom salts. Two days later I passed a bunch of hard tan smelly stones, some as large as a golf ball. The volume of these stones combined is as large as the gall bladder. I continue to pass stones on a daily basis, and as time went by the stones were mixed with a ropy congealed mucus. The mixture was multi-colored. I am attaching a picture. It has been five weeks since the flush, and I am continuing to pass about a pint a day of this stone-mucus mixture.
I filled two quart jars of this and have it in the refrigerator. I didn't freeze it because I heard that it would destroy the stones.
The total volume that I have passed is between two and three gallons and I am quite slender! I have read that almost a million people a year undergo unnecessary gall-bladder surgery. I am determined to publish a 50 case study in a peer-reviewed journal such as JAMA. I will personally finance the entire project. This will need to be a team effort. I have already engaged the services of a highly-skilled science writer.
I need to know the best way to preserve this material. I tried drying it in the sun but the mucus stuck all of the stones together. If I use citric acid, what is the procedure? I'm reluctant to use formaldehyde because of its toxicity.
I'll put a more detailed account of my experience on this forum soon. I'm going to need the help of the best and brightest people on this forum. It is utterly immoral that a 50 case scholarly study has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal as yet and I intend to do it if it is the last thing I do!
I think that your idea about publishing results in a Journal is great. If you need any help, just ask, I can send you images, I can send you stories from people, and any data necessary.
You can also find many great stories here:
http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=565
In order to preserve stones, you will have to pick them out from the mucus, wash them with cold water and freeze them.
The only way to preserve soft stones without toxic chemicals is deep freezing.
Congratulations to your flush - and to the "turning of thinking".
It is a tremendous Idea to do a study with 50 persons. We all know why such a study has not been done until now: There ist no ROI (return on invest) in financial terms; if you look at the moral side, you have plenty of ROI !
Concerning deep freezing: You have read that deep-freezing destroys the stones. I have deep freezed a lot of stones, but I have NOT done chemical analysis, so I don't now if deep-freezing ist a problem for analysis. But in shape the stones look the same as when I put them into the deep freezer.
Do you know all the scientific papers which write about hepatolithiasis? Medline ist full of it! Although it is still teached, that Gallstones exist only in the gallbladder!
Did you experience any improvement in your health? I bet you did. You would not bee that exited about the liver flush, if you had not!
All the best to you
Elisabeth (a veterinary surgeon, who hat to stop with the profession because of allergies to animal fur)
Inasmuch as it may relate to your proposed study, I find your initial post to be one of the most significant ever posted here. Looking forward to future submissions from you with great anticipation. I'm 49, male, 5'11", 360, living with peripheral arterial disease and sciatica --- every time I summon the courage requisite to flush, it's a weekend of severe pain or mobility issues. Your mention of pear juice, however, is somewhat encouraging for this hesitant, weary man. Regards from South Texas. /Tom
Would you be so kind as to post more information about your alternative liver/gallblader flush using safflower oil + pear juice? Namely, spell it out step by step for those of us who are new to (and anxious about) doing a flush.
Also, how did you decide to make those specific substitutions . . . especially since olive oil is pretty much THE OIL associated with this flush? What are you aware of that others could benefit from?
With results like yours I'd be delighted to participate in your 50-person study.
Thank you again!
Would you be so kind as to post more information about your alternative liver/gallblader flush using safflower oil + pear juice? Namely, spell it out step by step for those of us who are new to (and anxious about) doing a flush.
Sure. Simply substitute safflower oil for olive oil using whatever amount you would ordinarily use for olive oil. The same holds true for pear juice. Simply substitute the same quantity of pear juice. The flush that really worked for me used 12 ounces of oil rather than 4 ounces that are called for in Hulda Clark 's recipe. I was up all night, and it was not a comfortable experience, but the results were spectacular. I took the oil and juice preparation in two parts, one hour apart. Otherwise, I followed the Hulda Clark recipe. Several days before the test, I took a product called "Phosfood" which is a phosphoric acid preparation. I put one dropperful in a large capsule and swallowed it right away, three times a day for three days. I am allergic to apple juice so this worked as a substitute. I also took Chinese coin grass nightly for several weeks before the flush.
Because of lack of interest, and the inability to find a laboratory that does the kind of chemical analysis that I need, I was unable to put together a 50 case study. You are the first person who volunteered! I find that surprising because I offered to pay for the entire analysis.
You may find a lab that has a good reputation on parasites and has sophicated equipment that other med labs don't have, might be interested in your collaboration on your gallbladder/ Liver Flush study.
Great Smokies Diagnostic Lab has an excellent reputation.
Is it possible to approach a teaching hospital where residents or fellows are interested in taking up the project with you, where they have access to a lab? Residents/Fellows are always looking for a way to get published!
Also, Bill Gates is giving out grant monies for medical research. I think this is a great idea -- many things need to be researched in alternative health field that aren't traditionally done in regular labs with sensitive equipment.
Do you know what the cost is to set up a lab with the latest equipment?
Congratulations on your successful cleansing! How is the project going for publishing a peer-reviewed article? Do you still need more sample? I am planning on doing a liver flushing.
I haven't done an ultrasound yet, and I do not currently have gall stone symptoms. But who knows. I am currently researching to try to decide on a recipe then I plan to try it in the next week or two.
Let me know if you need more subjects in your study.
i think you were bout to die with all that shit in you!! and be honest were u one of those hard headed doctors.. and have u convinced any hard headed doctors?? that would be a good place to start! teach them! they might listen to u with your background:)
Thanks for the post. Since you used safflower oil and the stones were tan as oppossed to using olive oil and the stones being green. My question is then are they really gall stones or just a chemical reaction of the oil? Thanks
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