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  • Frustrated, does natural medicine REALLY work? by  scrappypoo  7 year  592  Ask CureZone
    Hello everyone,

    I am at my wits end. I have been trying to be good and do everything naturally, take supplements, stay away from prescription medication, eat healthy, exersize, did a 60 day Colonix cleanse and I still feel like crap! Does this natural medicine really work or are we all just a bunch of quack weirdos????

    I am very tempted to go to my doctor, explain how I've been feeling, show her the ridiculous amounts of supplements I'm taking and get bloodwork and get on some drugs.

    I feel spacey, can't concentrate, feel almost like I'm sleepwalking all the time. And I'm wondering if it's from not eating enough. I'm trying to follow the anti-candida diet, but with my energy level and all the restrictions, I don't know that I'm getting enough to eat. And I wonder if taking too many supplements could make me feel worse as well. I just want to feel like me again. I wonder if I should just take an antidepressant. I'm trying to stay positive and trust God but when you've felt crappy for so long it's hard. Does anyone on here take antidepressants but still do the healthy lifestyle. I almost feel like a quitter or a hypocrite for wanting to take them again since I've gotten into natural medicine so much the past several months. It just seems like everyone's on here TALKING about what to do to feel better, but is anyone on here ACTUALLY FEELING better? Or are we all just a bunch of hypochondriacs that have labeled ourselves sick and unhealthy forever constantly looking for things that are wrong with us?

    I just want me back!! I want my sense of humor, my concentration, my memory, my appetite, my energy! How the hell can I get it back? I've had the summer off from work and now need to go back and don't feel ready at all and thought for sure I would.

    Whew, know this sounds like a bitchfest but as you can tell I'm frustrated.

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    • Re: Frustrated, does natural medicine REALLY work? by  grzbear  7 year  509
      Based on what you have posted I would recommend that you take a step back and really take a look at your supplementation... you could be causing MORE problems with this if you are not completely sure what you are doing.

      Natural food sources are better than supplements THEN natural food sourced supplements... So much of the supplements marketed today is synthetic and virtually worthless, in fact, they may cause more problems than they solve.

      In addition, it takes a long time to become sick, it will take a long time to get well possibly requiring several different practices, not just a Colon Cleanse . It took me three colon cleanse over the course of about 5 months before I became “regular”. One just did not do it.

      Attaining health and maintaining must become a way of life, and thought.

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      • I agree by  Lapis  7 year  478
        Most supplements overburdon an already stressed liver. The alternative health industry is full of the same energy that makes mainstream medicine a "for profit" (without consideration for real health) endeavor.

        The tennants of health are not confusing at all and do not require umpteen dozen "products" to fix. In fact, in many cases getting out of the way (reducung total load), removing toxicity and congestion (proper cleansing) and adding optimal nutriton (clean, vital food, preferably raw organic living food), one's body will realignw with the innate bluprint of life, the same blueprint that is magically capable of building cguiding cellural division into complex structures from a mere cell and egg. Mainstream medicine takes a fragmented view (due to patentability) which can never help long term.


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    • Re: Frustrated, does natural medicine REALLY work? by  Lapis  7 year  480
      There are many aspects to alternative health that can make it very confusing to a person first entering into this world. Many, if not most, supplements are stillk based on an allopathic model of health as opposed to getting to the core and adjusting the biological terrain to allow the body to do it's own healing. Any other approach is like trying to place a bandaid over top a hole in a dam.

      Poor physical health is based on toxicity (which also leads to lack of flow) and lack of proper nutrition (especially bioavailable minerals). The healing path must address these parameters to allow the body to come back to balance.


      That said, whatht are you doing, taking etc at this moment in time to rebalance your health. Outline your diet, your environmnet, stress related to work, and relationships, etc. What symptoms led you to where you are currently at(doing the cleanse kit)?

      It would be very helpful if you could understand what brings about real health? By even considering antidepressents, I think you would benefit form an immersion in reading as much as you can on what cosntttitutes true health. it always starts with the mind first then branches out into emmotional and physical areas. Spiritual is actually first as it flows through the mental area. These "filters" must be realigned so that coherency and balance downstream (physical and emotional health) can occur.


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      • Re: Frustrated, does natural medicine REALLY work? by  scrappypoo  7 year  491
        Well, back in Oct. 05 I started losing weight, having constant diarrhea, insomnia, depression (have had depression in the past and been on meds before, but was med free at the time and felt fine). It took about 2 months after fiddling around with sleeping pills, Prevacid, and Lexapro before the doctor did a stool sample to find I had a parasite. By this time I'd had a colonscopy as they thought I could have colitis. I took Yodoxin, an antiparasite med which made me feel worse and more depressed, which led me to Zoloft, which made me suicidally depressed. Went off Zoloft and for most of January felt pretty good. Then the symptoms started creeping back slowly. Felt anxious couldn't sleep, just an overall "sick" feeling. Started going to nutritionists and chiropractors rather than regular doctors and have been doing that since. They told me I still had parasites and that was what was causing my problems. Took a round of Biocidin in May but didn't help, so then decided to do the Colonix cleanse for 2 months in June and July. Even did a 4 day pineapple pumpkin seed fast for the parasites. This whole summer I've basically been relying on my chiropractor's SCIO machine to tell me "what is wrong" and I'm starting to feel like even the healthiest person in the world would have this machine say they were all messed up and wondering if it's just making me paranoid and feel worse. It says I have all kinds of vitamin deficiences and fungus, bacteria, etc. and they tell me to cut out all sugar, yeast, dairy from my diet, but at this point I've lost a ton of weight and don't feel like there's anything I can eat at all and wonder if not eating enough is part of the reason I feel like crap.

        I'm a teacher and have been off all summer from work, going to the chiropractor 2-3 times a week and trying this natural medicine thing out to the best of my abilities, but it's overwhelming and I don't know that I have felt any benefit from it.

        Right now I'm taking a multivitamin, extra B complex, fish oil, greens supplement, 3000 esther C, Coral Complex, adrenal complex, probiotics, allicin (for yeast), Threelac (for supposed candida), blood builder supplement (for anemia), plant food enzymes with every meal, and geez, there's probably more but it's hard to keep track of. Also been fiddling around with 5-htp trying to find a dosage to make me feel better emotionally and tyrosine at times too.

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    • Re: Frustrated, does natural medicine REALLY work? by  white tiger  7 year  451
      Hi scrappypoo

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    • Re: Frustrated, does natural medicine REALLY work? by  #38976  7 year  460
      Hey Scrappypoo, love your name - Scrappy is one of my favorite friends! (I kid you not.)

      Hang in there - please.

      It does not take one day to feel the difference. Do take a breather, and assess what has made a difference and what has not.

      Simplicity is always the best way to go, and it will eventually be as simple as doing things that you really look forward to.

      Put a DVD in, close your eyes and dance. Hug yourself. Loose yourself in a little self love. Then take a little time to figure out when "your old self" was lost: What changed? Ask yourself questions and find out what you stopped doing, who left, and who came into your life. Did you move away from a familiar place? Did you graduate from college and now feel at a loss? Do you feel loved - in any way? If so - capitalize on those things that bring you joy. One of the most important things is to feel valuable. Can you make someone smile or feel cared for with a little gesture? Do you have a passion? It does not matter if you do it well, get dressed up and sing karaoke to yourself, dancing is one of my passions, and no matter how depressed or lost I feel - dancing will come over and envelop my very soul, until I can see a smiling person looking back at me in the mirror.

      Loving - is a great enhancer - a pet, a hobby, a book, a painting, nature OMG - the beauty is humbling, leaves rustling, or just talking to yourself: you are great too!

      Then, once you find an ounce of optimism, use that time to assess which things you can add each day: Juicing? make it easy, not a chore. Excercise? do something that feels good. Even your body balancing has to be not a job but a joy. We are all on the same boat here, with wonderful beings full of good intentions, that have taken us under their wings to gain respect and most of all love for ourselves.

      Give yourself a little time to find the right mix, I'm sure you will find it.

      Please don't give up - look at the sky: it is still there, as is hope eternal.

      MadArt (ist)

      PS: Are you ready to take a chance to lose your soul?

      and I quote meire's post:

      "...those consuming pharmaceutical antidepressants are “chemically cut off from their humanness, cut off from love. They cannot feel compassion, sympathy or connection.”

      Prozac interferes with the neurotransmitter action that connects the frontal lobes of the brain with the rest of the brain, thus creating a chemical lobotomy effect. The frontal lobe is the seat of higher human functions such as love, connection, empathy, creativity, initiative, autonomy and willpower. By reducing human self-consciousness these drugs may rob us of our spirituality, our very souls."

      http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=27&i=3442#i





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    • Re: Frustrated, does natural medicine REALLY work? by  jordysyd  7 year  532
      It would be helpful if you would post what supplements you are on and your diet. Candida is a tough little beastie. My friend has struggled with it for years and never seems to get well. She tried the allopath route and gave it up for the natural way.

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