It has come to my attention that certain elements who favor the US regime (that's Bush and Co. -- the current "in power" government here in these United States) have taken a liking to declaring that anyone who disagrees with the US regime is somehow "anti-American". These same people are either too ignorant or unschooled (or both) to recognize that it was the willingness of our founding fathers to criticize and reject the then-established government which resulted in the formation of a new, great nation -- not the most perfect nation, to be sure, but certainly a great one.
Anyone who takes an interest in the activities of his government and declares wrongnesses where he sees them is in fact the most American among us. That's the attitude which formed this nation, and it's the only attitude which has any chance of keeping the government of this nation from destroying this nation. Know that when some cheerleader for the current administration tries to say that you are "anti-American", he doesn't even really know what "American" means, so of course he also doesn't know what "anti-American" means. He's like a small child calling someone a "bad word" because he's heard Mommy and Daddy use the "bad word" when they were mad, so it must be an important thing to call someone!
I offer you, here, a chance to revisit the greatness of America by reading through the document which conceived this great nation, out of the hands of a despot we knew as "King George III of England": the Declaration of Independence.
In this document is listed a number of actions which George III performed which were considered violations of natural laws for which we had a duty to revolt. As an amusing exercise, I suggest you run through the list and see how many of these our own George has violated.
Enjoy!
=-John-=
WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great- Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.
HE has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public Good.
HE has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
HE has refused to pass other Laws for the Accommodation of large Districts of People, unless those People would relinquish the Right of Representation in the Legislature, a Right inestimable to them, and formidable to Tyrants only.
HE has called together Legislative Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the Depository of their public Records, for the sole Purpose of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures.
HE has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People.
HE has refused for a long Time, after such Dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of the Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from without, and the Convulsions within.
HE has endeavoured to prevent the Population of these States; for that Purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their Migrations hither, and raising the Conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
HE has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
HE has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the Tenure of their Offices, and the Amount and Payment of their Salaries.
HE has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harrass our People, and eat out their Substance.
HE has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our Legislatures.
HE has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
HE has combined with others to subject us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
FOR quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us;
FOR protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
FOR cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World:
FOR imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
FOR depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of Trial by Jury:
FOR transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended Offences:
FOR abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an arbitrary Government, and enlarging its Boundaries, so as to render it at once an Example and fit Instrument for introducing the same absolute Rules into these Colonies:
FOR taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
FOR suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all Cases whatsoever.
HE has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
HE has plundered our Seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our Towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People.
HE is, at this Time, transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the Works of Death, Desolation, and Tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized Nation.
HE has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the Executioners of their Friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
HE has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.
IN every stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free People.
NOR have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have warned them from Time to Time of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our Connections and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace, Friends.
WE, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in GENERAL CONGRESS, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connection between them and the State of Great-Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which INDEPENDENT STATES may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH-CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH-CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch, junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja. Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW-YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW-JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW-HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS-BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE-ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver Wolcott.
How dare you go against your fuhrer's political dictatorship.
Under new laws within the newly enacted Homeland Security Act and the addendum of this same act waiting to be installed, you could be held accountable for your obviously terroristic views. How dare you go against the president's will. He knows best because...well he's president. You must follow his orders because not doing so is anti american. Besides, he's a good man, a Skull and Bones Christian. Remember the New World Order that he and his father before him are working so hard to bring about, is a good thing for all of us. We must follow through and anyone that gets in the way must be stopped. We will do that by name calling, discrediting, incarceration, or torture if need be.
You wonder why only a few soft minds will fall for your conspiracies theories about America and Bush. If you weren't so kooky about it all, maybe more people would believe you guys. But Alex Jones and other sensationalistic journalists (and posters on this forum) just blow the chance of any legitimacy to their claims, whether you can find news articles to back up your claims or not. Who's vested interests are being disseminated in those articles. Dig deep and you will find out.
There is opinion, and then there is blatant anti-Americanism. Examine what you are posting, and lapis and netav and wheelslip. Just examine it, and let's see if you can find anything good to say about America. You see, like a broken record, you spout the views of the radical left and Hollywood. I'm telling you, that when you're not posting anti-Bush and anti-American articles, that you are almost quoting Hollywood peaceniks word for word. So you can try and soften your anti-american stance by posting the above claim but I would suppose that those that fall for the Conspiracy theory propoganda are the "unschooled".
The Declaration of Independance is a nice touch though. If your claims against the government were anything more than conspiracy theories or propaganda I could see it being of benifit to you. Do you think you could post anything good about American? Would that be possible? Are you even able to say anything against Saddam and Iraq? Or is it all America's fault? Do you know what being an American is all about? Or do you just take everything for granted?
Well, I must say I preferred it better when you were ignoring me. If you don't like to be lumped into the anti-American category why don't you guys try showing another face, in the political forum.
Hey Stofurz! These guys you were writing to . . . They aren't Americans, are they? Maybe they are some of those that have moved here from. . . you know where. Better watch out! They can be tricky.
I really don't know where anyone is from, on this forum. I just know that it is filled with all manner of Anti-Bush, anti-Americanism. It seems like an awful lot of repeated propaganda from the hate america left, and from Conspiracy theory sites. I don't discount all of the stories about America and Bush, that the forumers present, but I believe that they are extremists in their views. America is not perfect, and I don't have a problem with pointing out it's faults and making changes for the better, but this forum goes beyond pointing out faults. It goes right to the extreme of making America and Bush out to be evil. They want us to believe that Bush is practically a Satanist and Hitler's equivalent ( basically parroting the Hollywood peaceniks). That is so much nonsense, that I can hardly believe that human beings can be so gullible. You would think that they would get a clue when Martin Sheen, the leftist, fake President of TV fame holds the same views as they do.
Those "powers" are postitions and governments that are not evil in themselves, but the men behind them can be evil. Governments and lawmakers establish peace, stability and prevent chaos. But
Pro 29:2
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. NKJV
Well. I AM anti american and i dont mind admitting it. America is nowhere near its' pretensions. It is a fool's society where the typical white american is inflated with an erroneous sense of self-importance. It is a corrupt and morally bankrupt country built on lies, thievery, pretension and hypocrisy to name a very few...it creates mindless, unthinking, nazi-like rabidity and nationalistic xenophobic lemmings and who think it is a good thing to be this way. it is full of fat-brained reckless maggot-like consumers who think conspicuous consumption is something to aspire to...it is run by an elite bunch of old racist white men who claim to have the authority to dictate over all.
It is a country that calls going to the mall patriotic.
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