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  • BUSH In 2004   1 to 20 of 331 by  wheelslip  10 year  1,689  Politics 2 [A]
    Show Your Contempt - Don't vote. Republicans will vote en masse..
    They have no intention of forfeiting power. We still have the
    opportunity to stop the establishment of the 4th Reich via the
    voting booth. For the Germans - it was too late.

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    • Re: BUSH In 20042 by  stofurz  10 year  1,582
      Amen Brother, don't vote, and tell all your friends.
      Bush in 2004. Life is awesome.

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    • Re: BUSH In 20046 by  Claudio Acuña  10 year  1,620
      They will shit on your votes.

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    • Re: BUSH In 20047 by  s  10 year  1,588
      Are you kidding?
      Don't vote, so that Bush gets re-elected and we have him chipping away at our civil liberties for 4 more years.
      We all have to vote (preferably for someone we like ) but even if it is the lesser of 2 evils .
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      • 2 cents8 by  Tracey  10 year  1,555
        Well, yeah, I think that if I lived in the U.S. I'd probably vote AGAINST Bush....no matter who the other candidate was.

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        • Re: 2 cents9 by  s  10 year  1,567
          I live in New York and I'm feeling ashamed to be an American these days. I just hope the rest of the world knows that this country is full of artists and free-thinkers who are Anti- Bush and his regime.

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          • Re: 2 cents10 by  #166481  10 year  1,600
            Wrong, this country is full of hard workers who pay bills and accomplish goals. These people are behind Bush. It's the hard working people who hold up the losers who are artists. All the artists do is make pretty things to look at. The hard working American knows what the "REAL" world is all about. It's "daddy's little rich boy" artist in college who doesn't know a damn about suffering or injustice. Being against this war is being pro-ditatorship. Being against this war is being against freedom.

            Do you think Saddam gives artists their rights? Do you think Saddam backs free expression? The truth about Saddam and the Iraq government is that they execute people who dare to not paint a pleasing looking painting of Saddam. Anyone who criticizes the regime is executed and left in public as an example to anyone who dares to express themselves.

            You anti-war idiots make me sick. It's better that a few die in Iraq so that many may have freedom. Freedom is worth more than life and that belief is why you live in a Democracy in Europe and America. Because people like myself valued freedom above all losses of life. Loved freedom at all costs. WWII killed MILLIONS of civilians. It was worth it for freedom. Otherwise billions would have died in Hitler's facist regime.

            Everytime an oppressed country is set free we should cheer, not protest. You idiots make me sick. Why don't you move to Iran or to some other oppressed nation. If you love socialism, hey, move to China. I'm sure they'll let you protest in the street without killing you (NOT).

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            • Re: 2 cents11 by  Ev  10 year  1,669
              Thanks Tomb! It is so refreshing to see someone else, that has the same opinion, besides my husband. :)

              Keep it up!
              Blessings.

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            • Re: 2 cents12 by  netav  10 year  1,602
              so if you love this country so much, why are you trying to turn us into Iraq?

              as Nine inch nails so eloquently put it

              "Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"

              Keep protesting americans, you are the only ones trying to keep this country free.

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              • Re: 2 cents13 by  #166481  10 year  1,541
                If you ever got an education at a major university and really READ and UNDERSTOOD your history, you wouldn't need to quote the limited wisdom of Trent Reznor. How many countries has he tried to run? He's too busy out on tour to really give advice about world affairs. You sir are a joke. Read a book. Grow your brain.

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            • Re: 2 cents A Must Read of History 101 the unauthorized Histroy 101 una...14  R by  mee  10 year  1,858
              The propaganda that has melted your mind is so deep I don't think the Bush Dynasty could even convince you of what the real truth is. I will give you some of the Bush facts so you can learn something other than your current history(propaganda)lessons from "the worlds most trusted news source" CNN.
              Fact the bush war contravines international law which is supposed to protect "rights" of citizens. This war is illegal and bush, cheney , colin powell, rumsfield by international law should be called to the international war crimes court and be convicted.
              Now if you cannot understand the importantce of this unprecendented attack that america and britian have done lets look back at history and take a good example of what happened before ww2. Poland was an independant country minding its own buisness before Hitler and Stalin decided to agree on splitting the country in half. One half for the Nazis one half for the communists. The political situation of the country is irrevelant. Here we have two world superpowers taking control of another nation. In otherwords they are superimposing their beliefs upon another nation regardless if they are so called justified in their own opinion. Now Democracy was not born over night it came about by people being persecuted from another superpower (Britian) and it did not come from without, it came from within. What you fail to realize is the situation in the middle east. Most of these countries do not share the social and religious/beliefs that you do. Now what gives you or any one else the right to use force so that your beliefs, religious and socal so that they will become the norm? what if another superpower was around at the time that america was being born and another superpower came in and invaded and set up their type of government? United States wouldn't exist. Now I agree that Sadam is a ruthless killer but so was the England at the time when america was being born. RE slavery. Now during the last Gulf war bush senior called upon the Iraqi people to uprise and they did also the americans came in, and then the americans pulled out before ousting sadam hussein. Now I ask you is the west or saddam h responsible for the 300,000 or more deaths that the american military left after the uprising? which also by the way supplied helicopters and military equiptment including chemicals (anthrax from fort Detrix)?
              American foreign policy in the 80's supported saddam he was an ally that was fighting Homenei(sp) (Iran) with american supplied equiptment. If America was so intent of spreading the "gospel" of democracy why did it support another dictator to attack and kill another dictator? who is to blame here saddam or the people who gave him the military equiptment in order to wage the war?
              This is not an isolated case of foreign involvement with america in foreign affairs of another country.
              Youre failure to know much about history is quite apparant. Prescott Bush, George Bush seniors dad, aided and abeted the nazis from america to the tune of about 50 million dollars of 1940"s money which is like 50 billion today. It is a matter of record that the fedral government siezed these companys.
              Well you might say that was grandfather, yes it was, but he had the same goal in mind as George senior. (Prescott Bush wanted the 3rd Reich now senior wants the 4th) Who has been very instrumental in bringing the world the New world order or the 4th reich. George was head of the CIA which should ring a few bells if you know anything about history. In addition it is a grave warning of things to come. Now bush jr is continuing the same plans with the same team of crooks colin powell, rumsfield, cheney etc. Read the book entilted the new america by newt gingrich where these so called "ecumenical christians" want to bring in the New world order or 4th reich. The bush dynasty has large holdings in pharmacutical companys thats why they want to vaccinate everyone in addition the major side effect of EVERY vaccination is the disease it is supposed to get rid of. Ie if you take a polo vaccinatin the MAJOR side effect is polio. This is a way of weeding out those who are weak and contributes to world population control. "the greatest threat to american security is world over population" Henry Kissinger former sec of state. re bill gates humanatarian aid to africa of 1 billion dollars to vaccinate people in africa. Re state of the union address 10-15 billion dollars worth of azt drugs which statstically kills people faster than if they take nothing at all. Now you say what does the bush family have to do with arms? well the bush family and a prince from saudi arabia I forgot his name and a bunch of former and present administration people own the 11th largest defense contractor in the united states (and it maybe the largest since we don't know all the details). Now you say thats o.k but its a confict of intrest and they benefit from government contracts which is socialism. I hate to bring the american people the truth, but this is the way it is.You huff and puff about bringing the world the "gospel" of democracy, but is this what is really happening? Bush has a "vision" of the world which is to illegally remove regimes that stand in the way of "world peace" and the unfettered dominance of United States as the worlds military policeman. Now this is beginning to show the true character of the beast. I call illegally removing "outlaw regimes" the begining of the United States as a Tyrany. It just the same as Nazi germany annexing many nations while still yet in its infancy. If you think iraq is the only country scheduled for a regime change I have news for you to quote bush jr himself in a rare slip of truth from "the most trusted news network", "we want to reorganize the whole middle east" This is the beginning of the 4th reich. Just to end with a quote from the present administration itself in a 1998 briefing signed by CHENEY, RUMSFIELD, and other future cabinet members. The "Project for a New American Century" has gone operational "they (the signers) urged REGIME CHANGE AS A GOAL OF FOREIGN WARS," "AND NOT JUST IN IRAQ" This was written one year before 911 and at that time they said such aspirations were unlikely to be realized without a "A CATASTROPHIC AND CATALYZING EVENT..... LIKE A NEW PEARL HARBOUR" GUESS WHO THE BUSHES ARE INDIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH IN THEIR DEFENCE CONTRACTOR COMPANY? how about an x cia member trained by the United States during reign of Bush senior while the top dog of the CIA? ossama bin ladden.
              Do you people need more of the details in order for you to understand what is going on? I hope not , but there is much more out there if you care to look for it and start reading about real history not some theorys pushed upon the masses from rupert murdochs media empire and the text books of rewritten history offered in the local highschools and the majority of other government propaganda learning institutions.

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              • Re: 2 cents A Must Read of History 101 the unauthorized Histroy 101 una...15 by  jonthecomposer  10 year  1,616
                Please read my resonse to: (Re: How 23rd Man lies: The Techniques of Deceit by BeNatural 10 days ago ).


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              • Re: 2 cents A Must Read of History 101 the unauthorized Histroy 101 una...16 by  jonthecomposer  10 year  1,566
                Hypothetical question #1: If I said that Volkswagen was partially set up by Hitler, would you believe that VW automatically is Pro-Nazi?
                H.Q. #2: How many people you know are exactly like their parents and their parents' parents?
                I do not belong to ANY POLITICAL AFFILIATION and yet, I am by my OWN DECISION pro-Bush. Should anyone who follows an affiliation (such as Democrat OR Republican) and claim that the other is brain-washed be on more stable ground than I am? How do you know you weren't brain-washed by your affiliation? I agree with some Democratic issues AS WELL as some Republican ones. But, I am neither.

                H.Q. #3: Can we draw a parallel between the government of Nazi-Germany -----------
                (i.e. concentration camps, mass executions of Germans[as in: their OWN countrymen], complete media control[not even radios allowed for some places], complete intolerance for personal disagreement with government,...etc.)
                and the U.S. Government?-------
                (complete personal freedom even to speak publicly against the country, president, AND war with a guarantee of protection, P.O.W. detaining quarters that supply better food than Iraqi government.....etc.)
                The only parallel that I feel can be drawn between the US and Nazi-Germany is the needless killing of unborn infants.
                Let me also say that this comment is IN NO WAY a pot-shot towards Democrats. I AM NOT Republican NOR am I ANTI-Democrat. I simply state my beliefs.


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              • Re: 2 cents A Must Read of History 101 the unauthorized Histroy 101 una...17 by  #166481  10 year  1,604
                You draw parallels in history that make no logical sense or any kind of cohesive sense. We didn't make peace with a country and then violate a treaty like Germany did in WWII. Iraq and the U.N. had a cease-fire agreement in 1991 that was violated. It's Iraq who is violating international law. The U.S. is enforcing U.N. resolutions that "some" countries are either too gutless to enforce or have too much to lose to want to enforce. That's the reality of this war. This war is being fought for all the right reasons. Freeing a country from a brutal dictator and taking a future provider of weapons to terrorists away from the world.

                Also, you can trace a great number of companies who invested in German interests in the 1930's before WWII. None of these investors understood just how awful the Nazies would become. Do you think all the investors who put money in Nazi interests were in support of the evil they perpetrated? Of course not. If you do then you are an idiot who knows nothing about history.

                ''The "Project for a New American Century" has gone operational "they (the signers) urged REGIME CHANGE AS A GOAL OF FOREIGN WARS," "AND NOT JUST IN IRAQ"''

                Really? Well it's about time we put some order in that twisted and zionist part of the world. Without a doubt the world will be a better place after Iraq is conquered, reorganized, and then left only when it's a working democracy. I support that wholeheartedly. The world will be a better place because of this war.

                "This was written one year before 911 and at that time they said such aspirations were unlikely to be realized without a "A CATASTROPHIC AND CATALYZING EVENT..... LIKE A NEW PEARL HARBOUR" GUESS WHO THE BUSHES ARE INDIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH IN THEIR DEFENCE CONTRACTOR COMPANY? how about an x cia member trained by the United States during reign of Bush senior while the top dog of the CIA? ossama bin ladden."

                So, are you saying that our President and his cabinet planned 9/11? Give me a fucking break. Again, go see a doctor. You are drawing conclusions based on no evidence and a ton of paranoia. You have a serious problem.

                Don't lecture me on your twisted thoughts on history. You don't even have a clue about what's going on because you're too busy inserting your paranoid illness into everything you think about politically. Hell, buddy, the ice cream man down the street is planning to take your car and your neighbor has a Conspiracy to screw your wife. Hurry, your world is falling apart! Don't let the paranoia hit your ass on the way out the door you idiot.

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              • Re: 2 cents A Must Read of History 101 the unauthorized Histroy 101 una...18 by  rugby sailor  8 year  1,606
                That was a nice diatribe of biased rhetoric. The bottom line is - remember 9/11. Remember that the Senate and House passed the resolutions for US to step across the pond (Hillary included).

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          • Re: 2 cents20 by  jonthecomposer  10 year  1,596
            You are entitled to state your beliefs as we all are. Thank you for sharing them.

            Q. #1) What do you feel Mr. Hussein would do to those with the belief that he could be spoken against the same as you speak against Mr. Bush?

            Q. #2) Was it right to destroy the WTC? How many innocent children died on Sept. 11? Are you a parent?

            Q. #3) If you were forced to leave the U.S., would you feel comfortable doing so? Where would you go and have the same freedoms as here?

            Please understand that these are things to think about NOT insults. I am only here to challenge views NOT to insult. If I have insulted anyone, I appologize.


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            P.S. I am an artist.

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